| IVOD_ID |
162604 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162604 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第26次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
26 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第26次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-18T10:59:00+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-18T11:08:38+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:38 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5617cf280bc2552a792c13501f505e130c7c4ba622572b974c29659fdfe1d1e8ce9353d49d344a8e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
吳琪銘 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:59:00 - 11:08:38 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第26次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請內政部部長、行政院消費者保護處處長就「公寓大廈公設點交爭議及其處理與預防作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢。二、審查「住宅法」修正草案等38案，詳見議事日程。【進行專題報告及詢答，並宣讀住宅法第(二十一)案至第(三十八)案提案條文，第(三十八)案如經院會復議則不予審查。】【6月18日及19日二天一次會】） |
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主席我們與會同仁請我們內政部長 劉部長有請國務委員你好 部長 部長你好因為過去才我方不充分大家這樣溝通來做事 現在我看這幾天媒體都在報導各個市長以及我們的縣長 大家都 |
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針對我們的租金補貼 大家提出的意見我們過去 因為我們的租金補貼全部都是我們中央嘛 前額補助過去三四年以來因為我現在本市關心的就是說在新北市新北市有租金補貼有三十萬的領口但是未來 這租金補貼這是讓我們很多買家買不去因為你知道在剛好 |
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剛才他的廚藝都很高嘛所以不是在年輕人他自動去負擔的你自然不提你如果再維修這就會做成在年輕人做成在沒處好大的人 |
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他們的衝擊是非常大所以說在這個部分,因為過去才我發現大家沒有充分的溝通,就都冒然去通過才造成後面延伸的問題所以我也拜託說補充既然跟我說,不管台北市、新北市以及我看全國的各縣市有意見是不是說大家接下去,大家來研究未來這個租金補貼一定要再實施 |
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絕對不能說因為這樣就來有補貼這個部分來維修這樣對我們這個屬於說比較艱苦的人來作出的他們的壓力這對我們整個社會都不是很好在這個部分我請保重應該保重 |
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就在各縣市大家來召集一個會議,看要怎麼共同改觀,好不好?報告委員,我想你對收尾程序都非常了解啦跟年底的進程,那個租金補貼的進程並沒有改變但是我也要向委員報告,因為每年一開始,要用新的財政收支為分範 |
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新的財政收支劃分法明年上路那如果我是說預算他其實是三月的時候就公告了那明年開始要編列一百一十五年預算的時候呢我們現在是一六都裡面的五都就除了台南市以外他們都電話邀請我們的內政部國土署可以給他們公文 |
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讓他們在編列下一年度縣市地方政府有關於租金補貼的時候要不要把這個編到預算裡面去所以我們國土署發的公文是一個通盤性的請你們要先做這個請那個縣市地方政府在籌編預算的時候先預設準備 |
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因為新的財政收支劃分法上路那我們的理由就是新的財政收支劃分法其實分攤給地方政府的收入是有增加那中央政府自然就減少那既然中央政府減少的時候我們很希望說可能 |
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大家都有共識的話是回到原來111年之前當時我們在做租金補貼的部分中央跟地方平均起來大概是75比25的比例來做編列也就是平均來講平均來講縣市地方政府可能要負擔25%的一個租金補貼並沒有說我們並沒有要求資格要限縮 |
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沒有這件事情 只是說給錢的就分成中央跟地方要一起共同來負擔大概是這樣子那他的財力的分級的部分的話呢行政院的主計總處呢 我們很希望他們重新來考量會不會按照以前舊的 譬如說以新北市來講 |
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新北市的這個財政的考量呢是要負擔30%總共30%但是呢因為在新北市裡面申請租金補貼的戶數非常的高那這樣子的話會不會不公平那這個就是要以每個縣市政府呢要跟行政院主計總署坐下來談那我們會以行政院的主計總署的一個規定跟他的說法為主 |
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來要求各縣市地方政府來做配合共同來負擔租金補貼的總共的這個預算好 一律 柏定這個部分 我本省是要求說在這個租金補貼的部分不要去萎縮至於說資格沒有限縮他們來同仇分配他們要提撥多少這就是你們要去合作我是本省的要求是說租金補貼絕對不能少 |
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我們目前為止申請的資格並沒有限縮對 因為我看我們新北市新北市就有30萬的人口來申請所以這個費用最多所以這點我們本身要求一定要再比照再來呢 好 柏中你先回來 我問柏中來 |
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委員好好 師娘因為我們的全國超過30年以上這老舊房子本市在這裡 總共500戶500萬戶尤其在我們新北市所佔的比例非常高新北市比例非常高尤其新北市的老舊房子都是公屋房子是你看看這次的土生在本市的村區 |
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土生在地上有多少列入圍爐所以說他這台埠應該差不多有一半都是公寓的所以說在公寓的未來,我們要說他的老舊房子要來做補償這個經費,我也要求可以更延續性、更正確 |
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讓我們很多老舊房子他們可以來做補強不然台灣在地震層上面隨時會發生跌宕的問題是 感謝委員這是耐震補強的部分雖然 |
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前幾天這個申請量不太大但是我想這是一個對我們這個勞工戶有很大的幫助的一個機會尤其要讓他的結構可以做得更安全這部分我們的經費都有懸殊了第二就是說這個勞災研修的部分是其實是今年這個 |
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在這個特別務省裡面有希望來提出這個劉宅研修就是說我們結構的這個邊溝是比較沒問題但是你是我們這麼久的廚房四樓到六樓這個古公屋的時候這個部分我們會來 |
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提出一個補助的方式就是說希望你在公共區域的安全比如說你的樓梯你的外牆你這個走廊你如果想要改善讓它安全性更高的還有包括你部分的設備比如說你舊的電線要換舊的設備要換 |
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用這個安全和無障礙的設備做一個改善 我想對住在那裡不管是老人還是年輕人 他的環境會變得更好他會更安全 我相信對這個古厝 他沒有那麼多土耕的現在沒有那麼多土耕的總空間 能夠建得更好的環境 讓大家更容易住所以 市長 因為住在他們老舊的公寓 大部分都是因為 |
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有經濟能力 要保住外星族所以說在這種 它的結構已經超過三十年了尤其過去都是 我們現在都十六五嘛 以前都是剩下的嘛所以說它這個危險性 這都是我們國土組織方面要去做協助甚至說補助 還有尤其很多老人家 大致四老五老的 他們又沒有電腦 |
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這種的部分,是他們把我們納入電腿的部分,要怎麼來偵測?因為我們後面都有防火箱嘛,有那個麒麟地嘛,這方面是不是要怎麼來做獎勵?他們可以說,如果大型行動不方便,他們可以說這樣,會比較便利啦。 |
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有啦 感謝委員 開始拿這個都是很好的建議啦開始提醒政府 像是台北新北現在也有在補助這本來在這個老宅延遲計劃裡面 我們也有在努力希望大家這個公務 大家如果協調有共識 |
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這個相關的設置的標準,我們已經都慢慢放寬了,所以現在很多其實條件有,這個如果合得好,我相信可以補助他們來做這個電梯的這個設置,對這個大樓的使用比較方便 |
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好 這部份喔 我們現在電梯設立台部份都要在外面的麒麟地你不可能在裡面跑所以外面喔 這很多我們的法令要修改規定放寬 讓他們可以去設立這樣我們炒這個風風 大家來努力不然現在都卡在土地上 因為都有麒麟地嘛是啦 主要比較多有的是卡到圍莊啦這個大家要互相再來協調好 謝謝感謝委員 |
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謝謝吳清明委員 |