| IVOD_ID |
162599 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162599 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第26次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
26 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第26次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-18T09:58:43+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-18T10:10:42+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:59 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5617cf280bc2552a3efad82901299fb80c7c4ba622572b974c29659fdfe1d1e8c1dff94e1de332545ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王美惠 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:58:43 - 10:10:42 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第26次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請內政部部長、行政院消費者保護處處長就「公寓大廈公設點交爭議及其處理與預防作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢。二、審查「住宅法」修正草案等38案，詳見議事日程。【進行專題報告及詢答，並宣讀住宅法第(二十一)案至第(三十八)案提案條文，第(三十八)案如經院會復議則不予審查。】【6月18日及19日二天一次會】） |
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主席,我們請署長補充你多多休息一下我的意見,讓我多記一下好,吳署長有請有請好署長,老實講署長,在這,我代表嘉義市民感謝長久以來對我們的嘉義市的社會住宅的用心早晚說實在的 |
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我本身一直從早到晚在黨區的社會主宰,在藏馬的一間黨圖,在這裡也感謝你們的用心雖然是錢都中央出來,但是也要地方的到三天,我們才有辦法,有這個選擇 |
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所以未來的時候,家居市會建設,還需要市長幫忙謝謝委員長支持這件事一定支持的來,市長,先跟你說公社建交的問題因為公社建交的問題,我們電視也會做有的17天就停了 |
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有的一兩檔也要為點完在這個規定當中說實在對北省來說就是剛才召委長馮如說的一開始沒什麼問題啦一開始就大家開心不不要來打薪水所以這個問題都不存在啦但有一天的時候電腿海 |
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還是所有的東西都要修理,尤其最慘的就是我們沒點到有的工業公寓現在有時候他們建成老一戶、老兩戶我們沒點到的是後面以前的時代後面的白水 |
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的公司都在建盛的手中所以最近才發現建盛這間房子要賣的時候要在那個地方做賣 |
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到現在做外賣,人心想說,跟你們經過我的白水,這地是我的,你要我做啦!署長,在這個過程當中,他們去賣,覺得賣二三十桶啊,覺得不知道說,沒有點到,到現在多心! |
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會買的人,說你如果水經過我們那裡因為我們都安排這個污水下水道嘛安排經過,我們現在水要過的時候我一定要來你求情,因為這地是我的這署長,這問題很大的在這裡的時候本市要來請教,像這個問題要怎麼解決 |
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跟委員報告啦,以前的你講的一個詐欺,差不多民國六七十年代的老公物,差不多過期都有這種問題就是說健康在起碗後,他並沒有完全點高,因為他有一部分時間做他的罰控,因為他的罰控 |
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當時如果跟住戶沒有談清楚,因為這部分屬法控,有的法控以往是點高出來,點高出來就是大家的共有,但是有的抓辯者當時是他法控樓底的囚犯,所以我現在說的就是這個問題啦,他要扮黑衣白帝,做法下去做的時候,還要做法放出來 |
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所以這個保安就是說他目前為止是先去了解原地那張書腳上面這到底登記的是要給大家公有的這個公設還是他個人專有的部分所以他這個部分第一個要在法律上先把它趕快做釐清那釐清以後如果確實在公益大家認定裡面他還是有機會去當 |
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原來是屬於大家共有的這個部分的話那當然就趕快成立管理委員會去來處理這一塊那否則他過去他有的經驗是他有可能是把他當作法控就是我自己的法控要處理 這樣就是作為提供所以第一端也是要先這樣釐清再來看後面的方法 到時候要走管理委員會的方式還是要去走訴訟那這個要朝這兩個方向再去做判斷 |
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因為 市長 本來是跟你說這個案件的時候 他們也有訴訟過他們查開 聽到發言的時候 這裡過路的排水的地方 經營他們的 |
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所以不是公司的筆,大家會使用,對啦,所以這樣說實在頭很痛,所以在這個過程當中,我覺得未來我們應該要再做好,不然像你說的,要處理的時候,大家怎麼知道什麼問題啦 |
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因為我今天來檸檬,就是最近都有一段,我們有的公益,那在拉皮的寬鬆的時候,那在賣賣,後來才知道有這個問題,那剛才書長說的說,他就趕緊管理委員會來,那管理委員會有的,就是有的公益,就完全沒有管理委員會來,這個要吃了啦,像嘉義, |
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聯義國債也是感謝署長的用心跟地方的機關的配合跟去那裏說給他們聽跟最近他們跟成立所以聯義國債的時候 |
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是有教育 像署長說的 大家都不知道法規是什麼所以在這裡也感謝署長 管理到加2.7如果這些大樓的開水 讓他們可以早日來升立管理委員會升立管理委員會的好處很多你要做什麼 都依管理委員會來開會 |
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像我們要申請中央的補助 申請地方的補助也是一定要有管理大樓才有辦法去申請補助的所以在這裡來講 我覺得有幾位 幾位管理委員會也需要我們的署長跟地方多多去配合像我自己是 |
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他們有申請的720多檔,你也知道他們還有很多本身要跟你說,因為這時候的時間也夠了,但是這個非常要緊,非常重要要跟你討論的是,圍爐,圍爐的時候你們有說到 |
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我們的期間的兩檔讓他們去定期,讓他們去處理,可以如何去改善,但是在本社所了解,兩檔的時間,少一個年,可以過了,在這個月就夠了,師長你知道嗎? |
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因為你們都在一流的開始 但你們未來 因為像我剛才自己說的 自己說的大流的 久的都差不多在七流左右 孫長 你說有這個機會說 未來也要 |
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整樓還沒停機嗎?有這個機會嗎?來,首長,你回答謝謝委員,因為現在目前進行到這個時候早期公寓的一些問題,就比較陳柯難以解決的包括說,管理委員很難成立有的,就像我所說的公社的問題開始變得很複雜的時候,我們有注意到,現在 |
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要進行 後面要進行 要定期下去這個速度已經慢很多了所以這個部分 我想我們內部再來檢討看是不是再來協助大家放寬一個期限然後再看看大家實務上的困難我們就等一下再來討論看看看是不是大家遇到的問題看要怎麼來改 |
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幫助我們這個大樓可以把這個管理組織來加速來成立,我想這個部分我們會不久來檢討市長在這裡本身要跟你說,剛才聽到你一句話說會加定 |
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來檢討 在這兩天的過程 我覺得這非常重要因為我們不要說發生事情 還要來做什麼 要做什麼那些都不會有啦 都不好啦 還會發生事情 知道會有的時候就要來處理啦 跟在剛才 |
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我們有說到租金補貼的問題啦 大家開心一點啦 開心不開心啦我選多少啦 你選多少啦 比較什麼人選最多 最開心啦現在說實在啦 你們要等租金補貼的時候 雖然是80年以前 |
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還有電影製作權沒有不對但是在這幾年裡面都是中央全額補助的那你現在還要再說回來電影也要補助電影就一般補助你說實在不管是中央這裡的人、外人怎麼生電影也很難過的 |
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最主要本省的意見就是你們中央跟地方政府要說好賣社的權益賣社的補助一家又不能走因為像我剛才說的 |
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他們的自償是15%我們百貨公司的經濟要自償30%跟北市的租金跟去社廷工作已經很難做了跟北市最近都說跟中央生的 |
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不知道有沒有啦 跟什麼中央的黑白部 黑白衫 到底投革命是怎樣就是你們當時是不要在內政補助兩百三十八億 又沒有這個事情啦 |
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所以署長,本席在這裏說,白社所創造的,要補貼的,你們中央和地方要去說好,白社的管理,白社的補貼絕對不可以走,以上感謝委員,這靠我們不會去減少租金補貼戶的一個權益,這是我們行業部標準 |