| IVOD_ID |
162581 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162581 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-3-19,26,22-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟、社會福利及衛生環境、教育及文化三委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[2] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[2] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟、社會福利及衛生環境、教育及文化三委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-18T10:31:06+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-18T10:41:41+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:35 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5617cf280bc2552a8991cc2d6cc01f895c8a36db9e18c27badf9c1769f7edb47672f50a45871b9275ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:31:06 - 10:41:41 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟、社會福利及衛生環境、教育及文化三委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查：
一、行政院函請審議「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法修正草案」案。
二、本院委員何欣純等19人擬具「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法第十二條及第十四條條文修正草案」案。
三、本院委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法第四條、第六條及第十四條條文修正草案」案。
四、本院委員蔡易餘等17人擬具「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法修正草案」案。
五、本院委員羅美玲等16人擬具「外國專業人才延攬及僱用法修正草案」案。(詢答)
（第一案如未接獲議事處來函則不予審查。）） |
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國發會的主流主委還有經濟部的 |
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好 請劉主委和姜市長委員早 |
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這個要延攬跟僱用外國專業人士這個台灣民眾黨明確表示是支持的在草野協商的時候我們也明確的支持了國法會提這個案子那可是就是剛剛主委在講的我們的這個環境還是不夠友善有太多太多的這個問題我們趕快來補破那個我們現在用的最有效的方法看起來是就業金卡 |
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對不對 究竟我去做統計發現兩個很嚴重的問題第一個就是留下來的人 竟然有4成都跑掉了這是一個問題 第二個他的產業分配非常的不平均非常的不平均 大家看一下這個圖 |
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經濟部經濟部有提出5加2創新產業嘛那個江市長國發會跟這個經濟部都希望啊這個包括綠能科技亞洲矩股國防產業智慧機械生技醫藥行環經濟新農業 |
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5加2可是你發現我們現在發給這個就業金融就業金卡的你看接近一半都是製造業跟一般的這個商業科技業我們一直在推的科技業那麼少18.6數位才6.2欸文化藝術6.2金融也很少6.2所以 注意現在碰到兩個大問題嘛40%的人離開了對不對你給他這麼大的誘因了 |
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那顯然就是一定這個環境還是有問題 要怎麼去改善怎麼這個產業別這麼樣不平均你要強化的那些5加2為什麼沒辦法再多一點 |
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兩件事情 第一個他們為什麼離開我們現在看到最多的還是在於子女的就業因為這些人如果在30多歲他的小孩就學的時候台灣他可能擠不進美國學校之後那我們後來協助辦了一個加拿大學校是英語系的在林口之外就還是很難 |
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所以我們一直在協調教育部我們希望能夠在就學環境上面能夠給這些外國人的小孩子能夠有一個比較雙魚的環境來就學這第一個第二個是生活環境我們遇到有很多人來以後包括他的配偶只會講英文他走到菜市場走到超市走到 |
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或是叫個計程車他都沒有英文環境所以我們現在會強化在這一個部分的整個環境的變化在我們今年的政策裡面希望把生態系統建立起來那另外還有老外是說他們到了譬如到新加坡他有一個community然後進去問什麼事情都有 |
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那我們現在要透過Talent Taiwan建這樣的一個Community讓大家進到這個社群來他可以去問我要辦電話卡我要辦這個怎麼去做那我可能要找房子怎麼找那我們希望有一整的整體的一個生態系統來協助 |
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那再來就是在於就業金卡的部分因為這是一個吸引條件那我們也會去跟企業再多合作去吸引更多但是如果就我們製造跟商務科技跟數位這幾個角度來講的話基本上應該是有吻合到各方面因為我們很多的製造業他也許是生技製造業也許是智慧機械的製造業但是我們現在會做更積極的 |
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來協助企業來做這個事情另外我們也打算再增加一個部分就是協助企業去攬財主動攬財的部分 像我舉個例子其實中國的量子是靠維也納一位諾貝爾獎得主去協助的我們將來也希望做更大的力量來利用這些專業人才來主動吸引讓他進來協助台灣產業的升級 |
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你剛剛提到那些問題要積極去處理那我看了很多研究至少歸納出來還有三個大的問題第一就是薪資跟生活的成本不匹配確實我們的薪資還是低的怎麼樣去延攬這個外國專業人才的時候這是第一個點第二就是包括我們的住屋的成本 |
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或者不方便,這塊可能要怎麼幫忙,這塊可能要怎麼幫忙,其實大也很不方便另外他們對金融這一塊還有他們那個護稅好像很多人也都有意見這是很多調查報告裡面他們研究出來的三個大問題我們解決我問一下江市長,剛剛講這個 |
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你們5加2啊對不對那那麼多5加2的人都沒有進來啊這個要怎麼去強化報告委員我們是經濟部的部分5加2的都歸類在製造業的部分您剛剛表上面所說的科技是國科會他有關於科技前瞻研發以上說明就是你的5加2裡面要盡量在這裡要不然的話嚴重的這個事好了那裡面還有我去看了一些這個 |
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到我們這邊來的外國專業人士,他們有一些建議第一,入籍障礙是一個很大的問題入籍啦,我們看一下上一張有關入籍的障礙都是一個很大的問題,拘留簽證 |
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連有時候那個家人要來申請這個探親有時候都是有困難的然後有時候要把媽媽接來住那小孩子的這個探親都是看起來我們這一塊真的很不友善但這次在這個部分有強化有強化了那另外他們說什麼連銀行在開戶都有問題喔 |
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不只是語言上,連銀行開戶為什麼有這種狀況?對,開戶主要是因為全球有一個防治洗錢法啦所以造成外國人的開戶會包括還有那個申請電話卡都會有一定的困難那人家說你去新加坡,去其他國家都沒有這個問題啊為什麼台灣的開戶啦,還有一些金融管理就掐得這麼緊一般國家是這樣齁,在日本來講,你只要 |
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有了工作就可以申請銀行帳戶跟電話卡為了這個我們在Talent Taiwan我們現在是有一個單一窗口不只協助到他們在電話跟帳戶還有包括他將來報稅等等的我們都有在整體的協助 |
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那我想也許我們應該再更強化宣傳那我們希望把我們將來外國人社群建立起來之後讓他們都能夠在這裡把問題找到答案今天金管會有來嗎金管會有有沒有可能金融機構設立一個外籍人才服務的窗口 |
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剛剛主委說的那個是一個整體的窗口嘛那現在大家都認為說這個我們的銀行問題整個那個聯絡上很不方便有沒有可能設立一個外籍人才的服務窗口統一提供身份驗證啊外移這個服務啊還有一些申訴的這個處理是跟委員報告現在各銀行其實都已經有提供這樣的服務了都有做了所以就是跟他們講找到這個銀行不是只有所有銀行都銀行所以話分行的其實程度是一直在強化當中各銀行都有提供 |
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那另外那個剛才講那個房子的那個問題那怎麼樣幫他們在租屋怎麼去做一個溝通這方面我們怎麼可以去幫忙這個我們回去研議跟委員給委員一個報告啦因為這個的確您提到這一點因為我們的這個居住成本是那個我們可以回來一次來我們來做一個規劃來給你報告 |
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553.979 |
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好不好 這個這是一個議題蠻值得我們去探討的我們現在就業金卡我看那個最新統計是到2023年的年底發了6000現在有再增加嗎我們現在是13800多張我們現在一年增加3000多張那現在留的那個離開的比例是多高離開的比例目前呢離開的是6900位那六個月沒有來的就是 |
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六個月沒有來的 |
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所以16000人大概6000人是3900多位是6個月就離開6個月沒有再進來的那有些本來就是商務往來像日本特別多那有大概3900多位是6個月沒有再進出了那這裡面我們調查裡面有很多一部兩幾個就是我剛剛跟您報告的為了小孩子他小孩子 |
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613.518 |
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沒辦法讀書那他他得回去那尤其是特別多的是那個在美國的二代特別多那再來就是他的生活是我們的那個生活環境的的不適應那我們還有再來是他找不到一進來很無助所以我們就這幾個我們都會打包一起一起把它處理建立一個好的生態系統讓他們留下來 |
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本來在2023年的時候有4成離開 現在看起來比例也是接近了所以要不要再加強 好不好人才留下來 要把人才留下來 加油謝謝委員好 謝謝張祺凱張委員 下一位請林一錦委員質詢 |