| IVOD_ID |
162576 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162576 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-26-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
17 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-18T10:09:20+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-18T10:23:04+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:44 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5617cf280bc2552a384df99cab2aea6f242af1fd96f58230adf9c1769f7edb47f21262aa761bdb5a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱鎮軍 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:09:20 - 10:23:04 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第17次全體委員會議（事由：邀請勞動部部長就「營造友善職場育兒環境，落實照顧不離職政策規劃」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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我先讓你聽一段錄音 |
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任何的一個言論但是如果有想要做一個單位的企業公論 |
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再次強調這個就是跟便利公會有關我們絕對不會再鬥氣因為過去總是成立財業公會、加入企業公會那是你個人的一個便利但是你如果要成立單位的企業公會那不要因為目前財政唯一的合法的企業公會就是財政公會你不要再搞那麼多 |
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謝謝大家的訪問 |
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好 部長我剛剛讓你聽到的是在台電配售電系統勞資溝通協商會議上的正式發言那台電總工會秘書長蕭玄宗對全體的這個主管和員工說如果今天有人想成立廠廠企業工會就是跟我們為敵我們不會再客氣那勞動部身為這個主管機關部長 |
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根據憲法第十四條 憲判制第七號還有公會法第六條這段話有沒有違法或違憲請你告訴大家這段言論違反了哪些法律保障的這個權利這個這個錄音是真的嗎當然是真的啊我其實沒有聽得很清楚耶好 待會再我們等一下傳一份給我們部長回去慢慢聽啊 |
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對 所以因為我剛才真的 我其實真的沒有辦法這樣聽現在講的重點就是說這個如果有人要成立這個廠廠企業工會的話就是以他們工會為敵嘛那他們就不會再客氣請問部長這有沒有違憲有沒有違反法律保障的這個權利 |
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我想其實因為第一我剛才還是要說我真的沒有不確定我聽到的內容然後那這個工會裡面的成員他怎麼樣去做這個事情的表述當然這就是我們很難我們很難去說工會他說他與誰為敵我們就說他違反什麼法律啊 |
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這是工會 你是意思說這是工會內部的言論是吧這是邱委員你說的啊那你的意思是什麼 |
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邱委員你不是說這是工會內部的言論嗎那他內部有這個言論你現在的意思是什麼啊對啊就是邱委員我不是我們不是法官我們沒有辦法說工會他那我現在把他的成員我現在把他跟你講嘛有這件事情嘛有這件事情嘛你們是主管機關嘛你認為怎麼 |
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你的看法是什麼?我們沒有辦法去跟工會說你不能說自己跟誰好跟誰為敵我們沒有辦法去說這個是不是就已經違反了憲判的這個憲判第七還有我們工會法第六條的這個精神如果你剛才講你講的這個錄音跟內容為重點可是這也是工會的成員 |
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他自己在敘述的今天任何一個人說他與誰為敵我要說他違法他是工會的秘書長你這樣是不是等於恐嚇我們的老公工會的秘書長就是工會的成員啊對 他是不是恐嚇他們的人呢第一個我不確定他是在什麼場合裡面說明的我剛剛就講了嘛是配售店系統的勞資溝通協商會議上講的嘛 |
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我們很難透過這樣子片段的資訊因為我其實也沒有辦法了解他現場的情境我們現在假設這件事情我不是法官我現在講你現在是質疑這個東西是不是什麼場合你不知道然後甚至於說是不是真的錄影你不知道那如果是真的 |
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如果是真的今天任何一個工會的成員他表達他跟誰好他跟他他主張什麼事情他不主張什麼事情這件事情就要我們作為一個勞動部的行政機關去說你這是違法的 |
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這個當然不是言論自由,我認為這是組織性的寒蟬效益,這個也是一種壓制結社打壓的一個行為,那如果主管機關連這個叫做表達意見,那工會霸權以後會更囂張不是嗎? |
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這個跟我們說我們怎麼促成讓工會的自主性或者是可以更有空間這件事情我們可以討論可是你很難拿這工會的內部成員的一句話就來斷定這是打壓還是霸權還是什麼畢竟工會的成員他也沒有掌權憲法有沒有保障結社自由嗎當然有對啊那工會法第六條有沒有禁止干涉勞工組織自由 |
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有沒有你只要可以答原文就好跟文說明就是你剛才如果是只是針對他的這一句話然後就要我們斷定說這是一個違法的或者是所以你的意思說以後都可以這樣來恐嚇員工就對了部長的態度是這樣嗎 |
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這個是不是恐嚇我想這部分就是有法律這個當然沒有法律有法律施法來再去做斷定我跟你講這個是沒有法則沒錯但是我覺得你勞動部必須要有一個立場有一個原則是不是不能鼓勵這種情形發生這個我今天問你是這個態度第一個跟各位說我們並沒有鼓勵 |
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我們並沒有鼓勵這些任何的言論我們並沒有鼓勵但是委員你叫我去斷定說這樣講是不是就違法我沒有說他違法我現在跟你講你跟他講是違法啊我沒有說他不行沒有罰則嘛對不對現在是沒有罰則對不對不是那我現在講的意思是說這種言論發生在國營事業內部你們身為這個主管機關如果你們都不管那就是默認這種行為是對的啦 |
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跟委員再說一遍 這個工會內部成員他在主觀上面做的這個敘述我們真的是沒有辦法直接去斷定你這就是違法 或判定他就是違法不管有罰則或沒罰則我沒有說叫你去判斷 我只是說這種行為對不對這個 委員 你可以有自己的評價但是我想派出的募集所主管機關我們遇到懦弱的官員一樣沒有用啦 |
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那接下來第二題啦 因為時間也不夠那我再問一下吳明來自越南勞工受僱於某食品公司任職期間遭公司董事長的配偶也就是公司董事周軍多次以交包粽子為由肢體碰觸 |
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包括臉靠近申訴人的臉貼很近手往前抱或用雙手夾緊手等這個行為那麼新北市政府認定這個是符合職場性騷擾並開罰州軍10萬元州軍不服然後提起疏遠 |
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那部長我想請問一下現在我們訴願會說因為董事不是最高負責人所以不能罰那你們自己的法條第三條第三款明擺寫代表僱主行使管理權之人適同僱主請問這位董事長掛名董事長的配偶掛名董事他現在他在現場親自指揮員工在現場交包粽子 |
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甚至給指示下命令安排員工做出工作指示那他就是行使管理權的人嘛依法應該適同雇主這樣對吧 |
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跟委員報告 委員關心的這個案子這家公司的員工的性騷擾我們是肯認他的確性騷擾成立並且地方政府依法裁罰這件事情是成立的對 但是後來你不是撤銷他的我們針對請新北市再查明的是說我們的性騷擾的相關的規定是這家公司他針對相關的作為 |
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我們是肯定說他有違反性騷擾我們保護這個勞工可是性騷擾他的那個行為人是不是該公司的最高負責人這是另外一條的處分那因為他公司有另外一個最高負責人所以我們請新北市再查明說你針對這個行為人你認定是最高最高負責人這一塊請他再查明另處 |
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我們是針對對我知道你現在也對他們的公司罰了嘛對不對是是是那現在行為人沒有受罰我的重點在這裡對他的關鍵點是說他公司本身是有一個最高負責人所以你們是只罰公司所以行為人不用罰就對了那我們針對行為人就像這個就像一個你知道就是房子啊失火了被人縱火然後你去罰那個房子的人沒有消防安檢不合格然後縱火的人就放了 |
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我知道你的意思你現在想要你現在想要提出來的事情是說對於最高負責任的認定的資格的範圍的問題那我有聽聞過這個案子那也有工會的成員來跟我表達這個案子希望我們再來多研議關於這個最高負責任的範圍應該要怎麼去認定這件事我認為這部分我們也願意來再做一些檢視所以我現在講的就是我們這個是法規的問題 |
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還是這個標準的問題我想這個可能要講就是關於最高的話我們不能夠去這個行為論我們不能夠說這樣就不處分就是最高負責人的認定的這個範圍其實這個其實確實現在會有不同的尤其是公會的朋友其實有來跟我們說希望我們再再做再做一些檢視然後跟確認好不然你是答應就是會去做我們願意來來這個事情做 |
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最高負責人但是這一個案例裡面就我知道其實信少老師成立的對 沒錯信少老師成立的只是要不要適用那個最高負責人的這一個條文來去處理這個案件我現在的意思就是說他現在你去處理公司這個本來是規定嘛那但是現在行為人漏了是我的意思是這樣所以我說這個部分我們願意再來檢視一次這樣子那最後我提醒一下因為今天的主題啦給我一分鐘我們知道我們這個 |
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職場育兒環境的這個部分所以我們男性請育嬰假大部分都能夠回歸這個職場那到去年底大概有32.3萬人勤領女性占了24萬男性只有8.2萬人雖然男性成長了64%但比例仍是偏低啦我現在提醒的就是說我們的上限就是最高投保薪資的這個 |
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是四萬五千八 對不對四萬五千八那我們現在是以這個八成來計算那有些男性他的薪水可能更高可能更高那是不是就造成他不願意去 |
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領這個 你懂我意思嗎 去請領這個因為請領這個他等一下剩下三萬多那他還不如請保姆嘛所以這個也是一個問題啦就是說請部裡面把這個東西也列入考量我們認為男性身群遺留庭並不是障礙在哪裡的問題 |
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它之所以比例比較低我認為它不是比女性有更多的障礙確實我們過去的職場文化裡面容易把照顧的責任比較多的是押注在女性身上所以我們不是用怎麼樣這個障礙的角度去看我們怎麼樣去通過制度來促成大家共同的責任 |
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那我覺得我們的制度設計是這樣而不是把說現在男性情侶比較低是因為他遇到了什麼障礙或比女性更多的障礙我們倒不覺得是這樣但我是這樣覺得啦就是說這個部分你們還是列入考量啦就因為男性他情侶比較低會不會是因為他的這個薪資比較高那但是你這樣扣減下來對他來講划不來所以他就我們要去如果我們要去處理的話應該是想辦法讓女性的薪資 |
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這個盡量拉近男性而不是不只是把說設定說男性性質比較高所以我為了要讓男性多請所以你的意思是說女性的話你可以拉高就對了想拉高我們政策上當然希望但是政策上當然希望好 那我們各等部長兩性的政策就是我們的目標當然是我們各等部長的好消息好不好好 謝謝 |