IVOD_ID |
162459 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162459 |
日期 |
2025-06-11 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-23-15 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
3 |
會議資料.會次 |
15 |
會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2025-06-11T11:52:31+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2025-06-11T12:01:45+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:09:14 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
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https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5b5dae1827dbf6c9cd013f0f3d72aafa8c2a0f21558b58c3dea46edf933af6803ab31a2dbb756f7d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
邱若華 |
委員發言時間 |
11:52:31 - 12:01:45 |
會議時間 |
2025-06-11T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會第15次全體委員會議(事由:審查一、委員徐巧芯等23人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第七條之一條文修正草案」、二、委員邱鎮軍等21人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第十二條及第二十一條條文修正草案」、三、委員吳沛憶等18人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第十四條條文修正草案」、四、委員廖先翔等18人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第十六條條文修正草案」、五、委員牛煦庭等23人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第十六條及第十六條之一條文修正草案」、六、委員顏寬恒等23人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第十六條及第四十三條條文修正草案」、七、委員林思銘等18人、八、委員林月琴等23人、九、委員魯明哲等21人、十、委員陳俊宇等18人、十一、委員羅智強等16人、十二、委員陳菁徽等18人、十三、委員黃健豪等19人、十四、委員李坤城等24人、十五、委員邱若華等17人、十六、委員羅廷瑋等16人、十七、委員張宏陸等18人、十八、委員游顥等18人分別擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第二十一條條文修正草案」、十九、委員蔡其昌等20人、二十、委員林俊憲等26人分別擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例部分條文修正草案」、二十一、委員陳素月等17人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第二十一條、第二十一條之一及第八十五條之三條文修正草案」、二十二、委員顏寬恒等21人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第二十七條條文修正草案」、二十三、委員林德福等17人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第三十條條文修正草案」、二十四、委員廖先翔等18人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第三十三條條文修正草案」、二十五、委員林德福等16人、二十六、委員邱若華等18人、二十七、台灣民眾黨黨團分別擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第三十五條條文修正草案」、二十八、委員黃健豪等19人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第三十五條、第三十五條之二及第六十七條條文修正草案」、二十九、委員顏寬恒等16人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第四十四條及第四十五條條文修正草案」、三十、委員林俊憲等23人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第四十五條條文修正草案」、三十一、委員牛煦庭等18人、三十二、委員魯明哲等16人分別擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第五十六條條文修正草案」、三十三、台灣民眾黨黨團(11-1-13)、三十四、台灣民眾黨黨團(11-1-21)分別擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第六十七條條文修正草案」、三十五、委員羅智強等16人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第七十二條條文修正草案」、三十六、台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第七十八條及第八十四條條文修正草案」、三十七、委員魯明哲等16人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第八十條條文修正草案」、三十八、委員林俊憲等20人、三十九、委員廖先翔等19人、四十、台灣民眾黨黨團、四十一、委員王世堅等17人分別擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第九十二條條文修正草案」及四十二、委員林思銘等23人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例增訂第九十二條之二條文草案」案。【本日會議僅進行詢答】) |
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好 謝謝主席 主席請政務次長好 交通部我們陳政次委員好 次長好 次長我們現在看到 |
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去年新北還有新竹三起獨駕重大車禍震驚社會不只造成民眾死傷更有兩名警務人員殉職那三起獨駕呢這三名肇事者皆涉及俗稱的喪屍煙彈的二級毒品伊托彌子那這類毒品它會導致沒有辦法思考喪屍意識還有行動沒有辦法控制那稀釋者猶如行屍走漏那卻還有駕駛稀釋後上路已經嚴重影響到民眾的生命財產安全所以本席今天就獨駕的問題 |
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就叫次長那次長我們現在看到根據警政署的資料他獨家的查獲件數從110年的43件一路飆升到113年的2619件那3年間就暴增了將近50倍而且113年的時候創下新高紀錄請問次長獨家的查紀創新高的原因是為什麼 |
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委員是不是我來我是檢證署交易組組長好 沒問題那獨家創新高的原因是因為這個毒品的氾濫原本在112年的年底的時候那時候上市菸袋是等於是新興的毒品那時候還沒有還沒有那個上升而且管制的時候是用三級毒品四級毒品來列管 |
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那後來他這個毒品危害防治條例把他提升為這個就是我們知道112年他12月的時候修法刑法第150185條之三嘛 明定於毒價比照酒價處理那只要他的檢測濃度達標就可以處罰那也不需要再舉證他具體的危險行為沒有錯吧對 |
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那去年 您剛剛也提到去年8月的時候行政院才將這個喪屍煙彈就是e-tomidate這個e-tomidate它列為三級毒品那到了11月它又拔升級為二級毒品沒錯那我們看到警政署這邊也有提供資料113年全年它2619件那從1月到7月呢541件那8月到12月它暴增到了2078件那我們可以看到它有多氾濫那今年呢 |
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1月到4月份他獨駕我們查 查獲到1755件那是 這將近是去年一整年的查獲數那由於刑法的修法還有上次煙彈的氾濫嘛那獨駕的查獲數也暴增那同時他也是道路上的不定時炸彈那次長您對於遠景的查緝獨駕的流程您清楚嗎 |
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也請市長您同時了解報告委員原則上我們查到開車有可疑的情形原警會依照我們的標準作業程序來攔查第一個就是說車上有毒品的是一種狀況所以就是你們盤查的對象盤查對象那什麼樣的狀況 |
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就是他這個等於是開車有這個左晃右晃啊危險的這種情境這個就是所以警察會把他攔下來進行盤查那接下來呢有可疑事實那接下來如果車上有毒品的話我們毒品就要送驗然後依照毒品違法防止條例送送法辦那尿液如果說他坦承了啦那當然就刑法185會加上185的危險 |
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駕駛那另外那個尿液跟毒品送驗呈現陽性倒交條例再加上去倒交條例35條所以你們會看車上有沒有發現毒品那如果有發現毒品的話就是馬上就是會馬上就現行犯就是現行犯如果他拒絕拒絕尿檢呢拒絕採尿呢 |
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今天採尿我們要報檢察官你們要報檢察官然後再由檢察官來做偵辦是那人和車的部分呢你們會怎麼來做處理人和車的部分一個是移送法院嘛那如果沒有發現毒品只是他開車這樣很危險一定還要再驗尿之後那車輛的部分當下會怎麼做處理 |
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車輛會 車輛要看狀況欸車輛要如果是毒品的話你們繼續讓他上路嗎 |
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不是 如果是獨駕的話就要一致保管如果不是獨駕裡面沒有等於是他沒有承認啦我們只能採訪所以這樣子聽下來不管怎麼樣都是要做尿檢嗎對沒有錯 那今年1到4月5剛剛本席有提到案件數是1755件那這1到4月移送了1755件他是獨駕一公共危險罪處理那只有1000 但舉發數還有 |
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1141件他依道路交通管理處罰條例取發那換句話說沒有取發的是35%完全沒有開罰單沒有辦法取發 次長您知道為什麼嗎我回答可以嗎因為這個可以分成兩個部分第一個就是說他還在檢驗當中還沒有出來這個因為他有我們的尿液送驗喔還是要有一個流程要送檢驗機關去驗那驗出來 |
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第一個是驗出來他沒有達到陽性的反應如果有 當然就會就用道家條例開罰嘛道家條例第90條的規定 兩個月那童年藥力檢測他最快什麼時候可以提出報告 |
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最快多久可以提出報告我們剛剛算了一下最快大概要一個多月最快要一個多月那最慢呢不是要跟委員報告吼這個尿液送驗吼還有很多的關鍵因素我這邊是問時間嘛那最快跟最慢啊因為還要看檢驗機構的量能啊那現在量能足夠嗎一個多兩個月是不夠的兩個月是不夠的那我們可不可以來提出修法 |
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我們警政署是建議修法有報文給交通部我們有建議修法是從那個毒品所以今天我們碰到一個問題就是沒有舉發就沒有辦法吊扣駕照所以讓很多獨駕犯他繼續持有駕照繼續上路繼續危害民眾的安全現在的情況是這樣沒有錯吧 |
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包委員我們有一個解決的方式就是說我們的尿液送驗驗完那個當下才算期間開始算因為他行為開始之後我們根本還沒辦法確定說我現在不跟你討論尿液那今年警政署有沒有 |
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有沒有發函給交通部我們發函我想我跟護委員做說明啦這委員特別提到的這個有關處罰條例94條警政署今年5月9號發函給交通部做詢問請問部長交通部有收到嗎交通部跟警政署溝通了嗎 |
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我們有溝通 目前進度到哪裡所以這個禮拜會回應是嗎我們剛過來我們這禮拜會合幅給這個檢控署依據來辦理那交通部有沒有要提出修法延長舉發期呢兩個月是不夠了我們剛也聽到組長的回答我們會再提出修法嗎在現行的規定我們就可以來做解釋對因為他這個裡頭的相關的條文裡頭有一個行政檢討不是你知道獨家目前罰多少嗎 |
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他是比照酒駕在中 比照酒駕稅是多少錢?汽機車分開 汽機車分開分別是多少錢?汽車的部分是這個應該是9到12萬然後機車的部分 機車是1.5萬到9萬 汽車是3萬到12萬那根據台北市交通裁決所3月公告資料顯示有一名累價 獨犯的獨駕的累犯 張姓累犯他曾經被抓到8次 連續8次獨駕 罰款累計264萬 |
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你們知道嗎那請問這樣的罰則對於獨駕者有效果嗎 |
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交通部作為全國大陸最高的主管 希望交通部不要再觀望了如果不繳的話其實有相關後續的一個程序的處理也請交通部盡快有警政署的意義尤其有兩百多萬的這個我相信相關的處理是一個很大的一個目標 謝謝 |