| IVOD_ID |
162457 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162457 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-3-19,20-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟、財政兩委員會第3次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟、財政兩委員會第3次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-11T12:32:51+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-11T12:42:17+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:26 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5b5dae1827dbf6c9fc073d13102659eab4fab53e924c0ec1dea46edf933af6800a3ad233f9b498fc5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
徐富癸 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:32:51 - 12:42:17 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-11T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟、財政兩委員會第3次聯席會議（事由：審查：
一、本院委員謝衣鳯等16人擬具「農業保險法第十條條文修正草案」案。
二、本院委員邱若華等21人擬具「農業保險法第二條及第十條條文修正草案」案。
三、本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「農業保險法第二條及第十條條文修正草案」案。(詢答)） |
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謝謝主席 有請我們陳部長還有漁業署王署長陳部長 王署長 |
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委員好部長署長午安我想剛剛聽到我們邱志維委員提到很多的一些的建設我想高屏過去一向是我們這個漁業的重鎮我相信部長跟署長也常常到高屏地區關心我們一些漁業的問題那尤其今年我們看到今年的東港的黑鮪魚一樣這個獵的量也很大那我們也在6月8號都截止 |
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那請見我們過去長期對於這個漁業的保育跟我們這個漁民的這個互動上面有做一個很好的一個改善的一個機制那我想我們也期待農業部跟漁業署繼續支持我們的一個漁業的一個發展部長認同絕對認同這個漁業是我們必須要去支持的產業尤其屏東除了這個高屏地區我們一直經常 |
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很大力的協助了是因為最近部長跟署長也常常到屏東我想我們除了這個遠洋近海的這個捕撈作業之外還有我們的養殖也是養殖也是所以針對這樣的一個軟硬體建設還是要請部長跟署長來大力支持那不過最近我們有聽到我們這個漁業署 |
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我們提出了一個遠洋漁船的一個薪資保障的一個制度甚至提出一個公資電廠的一個互助基金署長這個制度當時為什麼會有這個構想跟委員報告基本上我們現在整個遠洋產業在面對國際上的壓力很大一塊就是強迫勞動這一塊那為什麼大家會認定台灣的漁業會有強迫勞動的情形這是最近這兩三年 |
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單單發生欠薪的船的個案大概有10件那每一個欠薪的個案大概都欠了12個月到18個月不等所以變成在NGO或是美國在認定你台灣整個遠洋產業裡面 |
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你這一個雇主經營者你沒有履行到你要付薪水這樣的一個義務所以國際對我們的責難很大啦那這一個付薪水這一件事本來就是我們經營者你應付的一個義務所以我們後來是設計一套就是說未來你如果每個月付薪水的 |
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你要跟我善盡這一個通報的義務讓我知道你有每個月付薪水那我們的東港的小調有一個特色是他一行次回來才付一次薪水問題是一行次回來是八個月 |
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那等我們發現他欠薪水的時候這八個月欠起來都已經不是那個仲介保證金可以處理所以我們才想說發展出一道漁民自己之間提繳一定額度的互助金那目前我們馬上可以來做處理 |
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一艘船先繳五萬,總湊了五千萬的一個基金,是這個版本嗎?我們現在希望是一年大概兩千萬,那大概分三年,逐年把這個互助金的這個水庫可以達到五千萬的這樣的一個規模。蘇長,你知道現在這個方案在地方已經造成很大的雜音嗎? |
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我了解 我了解 但是其實跟委員報告這個有少數一些漁民有比較大的反彈聲音很多人都在關懷啦 你都說接受而已部長我想我們支持我們要照顧我們的這個漁工的權益但是我想用這樣的一個制度把所有大家人一起去承擔風險但是對有的人說有可能就是少數的人他藉由這個機會他就是幫你幫忙不幫你錄影的時候我們怎麼面對這樣的一個機制 |
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我個人覺得就是你雇船員不管是國內或外籍的你應該付薪水這天經地義的然後你如果有一些 |
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包括委員所提到 如果說你的風險很高的話我就會強勢你去做一些護住金的提繳應該是選擇性的做處理那你如果說是正常繳的 你就是提報嘛所以我覺得現在還是在做溝通但是溝通中有不同的意見 我相信我們會收集起來以後然後再做一個調整啦 |
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對啦,我今天還是要去溝通,要去收集意見啦比較只是你們現在的做法就是我就是不會這樣做,你們都要聽我的所有的反彈都是我們這些民意代表在承受你們都不要聽我的意見我想喔 |
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我們現在會去溝通其實並不是說我們政策已經訂了然後去宣導這是兩件事情所以在溝通過程中如果有一些不同的意見我想我們待會來會重新去設計這個部分我想我們可以承諾會去做一個檢討好部長署長所以我還是要特別提到說這樣的案子 |
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我們應該再來審慎來評估來討論一下甚至今年黑鮪魚的一個捕撈的一個制度當然我感謝署長跟部長的支持我們去年檢討完之後今年在運作上面當然已經有順暢很多但是還是有值得去要檢討的地方我再找時間再跟你來討論一下我相信我們一年要做的比一年更好 |
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那另外剛剛我們邱志永委員有提到的那個建設問題我想我自己本身也帶了署長也看了好幾個地方我想包含我們的周縣長上一次部長來我們口提的疫區記者會的時候周縣長也有特別跟部長拜託那所以針對東港、漁港部長現在走路啊這個沿流線那邊 |
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很漂亮 是一個觀光的景點但是相對現在東港碼頭這邊還是一樣破舊不堪真的要加快來進行東港現在是這麼重要的一個漁業發展的一個基地那景觀一定要顧起來部長能不能支持這樣的一個案子我想我們漁業署會跟縣府先做一個整體的規劃第二個部分就是所有的 |
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經費需要支持我們一定努力來但是還是要有一個我們的總預算的限制所以相對的就是後續提出來的這些規劃我想第一個就是說縣府跟我們這邊要怎麼樣的去有一個更完整的規劃我覺得比較重要而不是一個規劃完了以後一直擴大或是一直追加那樣子的話農業部的經費沒有辦法被這樣子一個使用所以我想我們後續我想漁業組會跟縣府會做一個更完整的規劃 |
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部長那我想最後一個就是5月27號我們感謝農業部跟漁業署的支持我們仿寮區漁會的漁市場在5月27號已經啟用這個花了5000多萬那製冰場也明年要完工那最後一里路就是這個擴港的一個計畫我想擴港計畫一完成之後包含我們所有仿寮漁港230艘的漁船一年的拍賣量200多噸 |
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交易的金額有將近6,000多萬現有的福利確實是不服使用請部長也要支持這樣的一個擴港計畫我相信未來之後訪寮也是我們未來在這個屏東的這個屏中跟屏南的發展的很重的一個漁業的一個基地部長願意支持嗎我想訪寮漁港的部分我覺得那個金額已經 |
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沒有辦法用我們的公務預算去支應所以我覺得像類似的未來的漁港的建設我覺得可能我們要重新去檢討然後用提一個比較具體的專案計畫向行政院爭取啦不然就用那個往前推進啦我們繼續繼續往前所以我想用專案的計畫把所有的漁港必須建設的一次看怎麼樣的去向行政院爭取不然以現在那個我們的公務預算其實並不多支持一個漁港就掛掉了 |
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部長最後一個我想我們今天感謝就是我們支持我們這個養殖的我們的一個海水供應站的系統但是我們現在有發現一個問題因為我們現在海水供應站並沒有串聯 |
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那最近發生了我們加東溫豐的海水供應站他們在稅休的時候他沒辦法供水給這些養殖戶就變成養殖戶還是必須要用原本舊的管去抽水我覺得這個機制是有問題的我們既然要做供應站之後應該要把這些管路那些世界器官的管線應該把它除掉但是他們對於人民來講他們怎麼樣取得他們的水權的運用的這一塊是不是應該漁業署我們跟縣政府也要來討論一下 |
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這個備援系統要怎麼做處理好 謝謝委員的建議我覺得委員的建議非常重要就是說 |
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兩個不同的海水供應系統之間要有可能的串聯的備援系統才能夠讓他能夠互相支援那這個部分我想我們漁業署這邊也在積極在做就是兩個部分之間的備援系統怎麼規劃然後未來再跟委員請教看要怎麼樣去做在對地方是最適當的 獨立的部分能夠做怎麼樣一個對這個這個應該在其實在建設的時候就應該規劃進去是好這個我們再來我們會來努力來做好謝謝好謝謝我們現在 |