| IVOD_ID |
162413 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162413 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-3-19,20-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟、財政兩委員會第3次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟、財政兩委員會第3次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-11T09:26:15+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-11T09:37:30+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:15 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5b5dae1827dbf6c9dd6010ace42a7ed4b4fab53e924c0ec1f3738a47179c06521c587096f49c00dc5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林德福 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:26:15 - 09:37:30 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-11T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟、財政兩委員會第3次聯席會議（事由：審查：
一、本院委員謝衣鳯等16人擬具「農業保險法第十條條文修正草案」案。
二、本院委員邱若華等21人擬具「農業保險法第二條及第十條條文修正草案」案。
三、本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「農業保險法第二條及第十條條文修正草案」案。(詢答)） |
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謝謝主席與會的各部會的官員是不是請農委會農業部的陳部長陳部長原長部長你好 |
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因為農村人力不足為解決這個缺工的問題政府除了積極推動以農業機具來替代人力外其中推動遙控無人機來噴藥 |
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思維的比例啊逐漸的增加那無人機噴藥通常省時省錢省力省能力啊農民不用這個暴露在高濃度的這些農藥的環境裡面但偶爾啊有污染林田的這些爭議的發生那不恨農民啊施行有機耕作 |
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或無農藥無撕毀的自然農法卻因為林田使用無人機的噴灑這些農藥的撕毀而受到影響那污染到自家的作物對此農業部對於無人機噴灑農藥撕毀如何避免污染使用 |
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有機農法或這個無農藥的這些林田有沒有一些配套的措施好 謝謝委員那的確就是說針對無人機去噴藥的時候有可能去污染到林田那其實我們農業部在無人機第一個無人機噴藥的時候它必須要有雙證照 |
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必須要取得技術上的認可第二個就是說我們已經有相關的一個規範包括操作的規範那更重要就是我們建設的全台灣的RTK那所謂RTK就是無人機它可以定位到幾公分的距離那這樣噴的時候就不容易外到其他的林田去啦那第三個就是萬一有噴到的時候我們有一個所謂的鑑定的一個制度 |
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能夠來確定有鑑定的制度是有一個鑑定的制度因為我們不希望說這個事情經常發生而且如何去避免農田飄落林田發生糾紛這個事情的發生部長 |
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你有沒有說更好的方式我想我們現在也在積極推動因為畢竟我們現在目前雖然在推有機專區但是有部分的有機點它是跟傳統點在一起的所以在那種臨界地的時候我們都推動它有保護行的概念 |
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就是說它雙邊都有一些保護行就是它不要在那裡用無人機去噴那這樣的話無人機如果沒有飛的依照我們的規定在珠貫4公尺以下的話它的風速在3米以下的話就不會飄散所以有保護行的制度它會避免它的臨天的污染這個很重要啦那個部長 |
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美國今年4月宣布將對各國實施對等關稅後來又宣布90天的暫緩期那美方要求各國在6月4號以前要提最佳的提案在7月8號以前這些關稅暫緩期限到期前完成談判對此總統賴清德曾表示說我國將展開以零關稅為基礎 |
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對美談判那許多的農民認為台灣稻米產業認為將會因此受到嚴重的衝擊陸續有農民上街抗議認為開放美國稻米零關稅進口將犧牲台灣這個糧食的安全那陳部長你也說不會發生進口稻米零關稅那我請問這是對國人的承諾嗎 |
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我跟委員報告現在台美的關稅正在談判中那談判的細節我不方便講但是你有講啊你說不會發生啊我還沒講完就是以農業的立場來講我們一定是在確保糧食安全的前提之下確保產業永續的前提之下 |
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那我也承諾就是說我盡我們農業部的可能我們絕對不會讓稻米在這一波的關稅裡面去處理到零關稅甚至於我們都不希望稻米現在的制度而做任何的調整這是我們農業部的一個立場 |
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好 那政策要是跳票誰負責請問農業部你除了今年五月初農業部有派員赴美參與對美關稅的談判外後續六月還有再進一步磋商談判嗎 |
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不過我想整個台北的談判是考慮到因為不只是農業不只是工業農業有非常非常多的品項所以我們考慮的是整個農業的最大的利益而且是農業能夠跟美國貿易雙贏的政策之下去處理的所有的談判的一個細節 |
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但是到目前為止其實整個關稅的談判如在物理看花美國講的對講的是我們這個要去爭取到目前為止人民真的還看不到 |
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那個陳部長日本近年來有米荒現象那台灣米2025年外銷日本預估全年銷量會超過1萬公噸但有日本民眾投書媒體分析台灣米出口日本市場的現象該名日本民眾認為日本米荒風波過去價格回落 |
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哪怕台灣米與日本米的售價相當日本消費者會主動選擇台灣米的可能性能相當有限那我請問農業部台灣米外銷日本的銷量增加從長遠來看曇花一現還是可以穩定的成長你的看法呢 |
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我剛才就提到了就是我們現在削日本的米的策略絕對不是因為它短期的短缺而大量的去推廣我們要建立的是整個完整的供應鏈我們要建立的是透過我們的品牌透過我們的品質跟美國的通路做鏈接去達到特定族群的市場那這樣的一個市場那個機制不管你未來日本稻米本身是不是回穩我們都還是能夠進攻一定的市場這才是我們的目標好 |
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那個部長 會後你就提供本席書面資料說明112年到114年台灣米外銷日本政府有沒有補助相關的預算 有沒有 |
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我想我們有很多相關的行銷還有包括品牌包括產地包括像極端產區有沒有我們希望是用氣做極端產區那這方面我們都有一些協助你會後給本席一份資料我們再提供資料那個部長本席持續關注這個豬肉的價格民眾反映豬肉價格還在高檔6月9日新北市毛豬的交易行情為例 |
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每公斤102.72元行政院穩定物價小組關注17項重要的民生物質其中豬肉漲幅最高來到6.9%創14個月的新高而中華民國養豬協會理事長認為目前的豬價1公斤破百元是合理的價格喊話行政院物價穩定小組不要出手 |
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豬肉破百價格請問農業部端午過後豬肉價格是否可以回檔你的看法呢我們現在評估認為現在的豬肉價格在95到100之間是一個合理的價格因為現在目前的豬的飼料跟成本跟幾年前都不可以相比我們的目標是希望我們農業的生產能夠持續的生產國產的豬肉那你認為會不會回檔 |
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我想就在這個區間在跑在跑還是會維持到中秋因為目前農業部任認為的這個豬肉合理價格因為你認為應該是多少才是合理價格 |
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我們昨天大概是99塊已經不會再帶超過100塊只是短時間一天的那個那我們希望是控制在95到100之間但是要是超過農業部會採取哪些豬肉價格調節的措施我想批發價格會跟你的 |
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批發的投訴是有關的所以當他的價格已經有些偏離的時候我們就會進場調節他的批發的投訴進場的數量那這樣的話就能夠讓他的價格穩定在95到100之間好 |
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最後一個議題2024年颱風接二連三侵台造成許多榮損以香蕉為例颱風造成整體香蕉產量大幅的減少那香蕉價格屢創新高甚至100多塊喔一斤喔不是一公斤喔那目前農業部目前的整個香蕉的產量以價格 |
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有沒有回穩現在價格已經回穩了齁回穩 以前齁我去買的時候是20塊一斤啦現在是差不多40塊因為我常年都有在吃 昨天大概是25塊左右25塊 一斤喔市場價才25塊啊 差不多啦它那個比這個高啦 高很多啦114年度這個香蕉收入保險投保的情況如何 |
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我們香蕉的投保人數我可能會有再提供給劉先生你們要提啊 這個你們其實要去關注啦是不是有比113年成長 今年有多少香蕉種植面積有參加投保大概是為時 那我跟委員報告因為香蕉的收入保險是基準產量乘以價格那因為它量少 但是量少的比例比價格高的 漲幅有沒有 |
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因為價格漲幅太高了所以兩個一層的時候變成保險就不容易理賠到或是理賠的比較少那這個部分我們也在關切也在看看說保單有沒有可以調整的空間部長交農部參加這個相交收入表現的主要原因為何政府如何讓農友來體認農作物保險支出也是農業生產成本的一環是我認為這個很重要啊 |
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我想我們會在根基因為香蕉比較特殊因為香蕉一個園子裡面有當年生的有第二年生的它是比較沒有一致性然後香蕉從高雄屏東到南投的部分它的產地跟價格區間也比較大 |
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所以我們現在用區域型的保險看看可不可以讓他更集中我們的數據比較好調查這樣的話農民獲得的肥也比較好我希望農業部在這方面多去加強去要求跟控管謝謝委員的提醒 謝謝好 謝謝 |