| IVOD_ID |
162411 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162411 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-3-19,20-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟、財政兩委員會第3次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟、財政兩委員會第3次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-11T09:14:59+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-11T09:26:10+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:11 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5b5dae1827dbf6c9798d6c14e4fea28eb4fab53e924c0ec1f3738a47179c065279bf6ad6b7fd95895ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱議瑩 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:14:59 - 09:26:10 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-11T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟、財政兩委員會第3次聯席會議（事由：審查：
一、本院委員謝衣鳯等16人擬具「農業保險法第十條條文修正草案」案。
二、本院委員邱若華等21人擬具「農業保險法第二條及第十條條文修正草案」案。
三、本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「農業保險法第二條及第十條條文修正草案」案。(詢答)） |
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謝謝主席我請一下部長 |
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部長好部長針對我們今天要談的這個農業保險法的修正條文的部分剛您的報告裡面其實有談到就是說我們這個保費是對於農民風險管理的這個所謂的對價補助過高可能會怕會降低他自主管理的動力大概你們列了幾點最後是這個法條其實是在109年才三讀通過 |
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距今也差不多是五年前差不多五年了而且你們在食物上已經有執法跟所謂的行政裁量權去做這一些彈性的調整可是部長您剛剛講的這一些部分 |
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我是同意但是有沒有想過其實我們現在有一些有一些作物或者是有一些品項其實你的補助已經超過了百分之百那如果你又不修法的話 |
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那在未來在橫貧上面會不會產生極大的落差這一點我是不是能夠請部長您來說明一下比如說我們的水稻收入保險它雖然不是強制但是水稻收入保險的基本型它基本上已經算是百分之百嘛除非你是要去補你是要去加保投保所謂的加強型你才是自己要再多付費百分之應該是15左右吧 |
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那如果是這樣那包括你說強制保險那就不算在此列了你都諸之的這個叫強制保險所以這個補助當然也是百分之百所以部長我再請教一下您剛講的這些部分有沒有做一些彈性調整的可能性或者是說你在橫平性上面有沒有再去做一些思考來部長 |
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業委員的提問,那我先說明一下水稻的基本型的保險它是屬於一種由原來的天然災害整個移轉過來的所以它把我們利用天然災害過去幾年的一個受災的金額直接移到保險的額度來然後農民就不用再出錢了 |
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所以它屬於一種類似強制型的一個保險它不需要出保費的這種概念那其他的像租資啊那像有一些比較大的政策型的保險那在原來的法裡面就有所謂的排除在外的部分這第一個說明那第二個說明就是 |
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委員剛才也提到一個重點就是保費的補助是一件事情但是我們怎麼樣讓保單的設計更合理更有利才能夠讓農民有意願投保當投保的農民越多的時候他的風險的分散越廣那他的保費就會越低那個才是我們需要更積極去處理的 |
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所以如果就這一方面我想整個宣導跟整個配套似乎還是不太夠啦很多農民對於我其實不太贊成就是說你全額補助他保費這樣對農民來講他沒有那一種投保的概念跟想法 換講重建戶的步驟啊他也不會想要去投保所以有沒有可能就是說我覺得主管機關你們應該是要去做一個所謂的定期檢討補助比例 |
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這樣的一個檢討機制檢討原則如果不同意修法那是不是有一些動態滾動性的調整這些檢討甚至說我們要去讓農民更清楚所謂的農民農業保險對農民的保障這個區塊我認為農業部也應該要加緊腳步因為其實人都會去做人壽保險更何況是去做作物 |
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那這一次的稻米欠收空爆彈的事件其實對農民來講他就了解到保險的重要性所以很多農民他是投保基本型的他其實沒有去做所謂的加強型的所以那一天我們到大寮到美濃去跟農民做對談的時候農民就會知道說原來還有一個加強型 |
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所以他的補助是會增加的他的理賠金額是會增加的我覺得像這一些不管是滾動性的檢討或者是宣導應該都要加強就是在農業部來說你們應該都要加強讓農民理解這件事情很多人都會遇到天災的時候才會知道說保險的重要性但是還沒有遇到天災之前其實我們都應該要加強宣導你同意我的看法嗎 |
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好 謝委員也提醒 我想宣導一定要再更積極的去做那另外的滾動式的檢討其實我們最近就在研議就是因為我剛才說的我們希望保險是一個長期性每年都能夠投保而不是好像又跟天氣對賭那如果我們在考慮說如果它連續的對它從事的作物連續保的話我們會給予保費的優惠那其實保費的優惠的概念其實就是政府增加補助的比例啦 |
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所以用這種保費的優惠的概念去取代我們政府的保費提高所以不敢你剛講的這個概念其實也是一種滾動式的檢討啦我不直接取消就是我不直接說你全部的保費都是政府出但是你如果連續投保 |
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那我政府會給你再更多的一些優惠或者是鼓勵我覺得像這樣子的滾動式檢討是不是能夠就這個修法的層面上來說農業部能不能整理一個你們的相對應的政策出來到時候我們如果再進入主條的時候其實可以有更深入的一些討論 |
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好 謝謝委員給我們這樣機會我想在正式主條討論的時候我們會把更精進的滾動檢討的機制跟可能涵蓋的方向也讓委員了解所以你大概也知道說哪一些品項包括你要不要用品項去做分類你要做怎麼樣的分類標準補助標準或者是什麼我覺得可能你們內心大概也都有做一些評估報告可能在我們在進入主條的時候可能這個要請農業部來提出來好 我們一定到時候會提供 |
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那接下来我要跟部长您提到最近大概你们也知道昨天傍晚我看到农业部也发布一个讯息日本米的米价飙升所以呢这对台湾来讲是一个很好的契机我看到你们的报告台湾的米销日本单单在今年的二月份它的涨幅是700%多所以整体来说台湾米销到日本去 |
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應該是有大幅的競爭力的對不對好 這個是你們整理出來的這個年增率喔今年的二月份年增率是768%喔是部長我最近有送你這個你有收到嗎應該有吧你如果沒有收到應該不曉得是不是被幕僚偷吃掉了齁這是我們美濃優質好米美濃147米現在正在盛產 |
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我就在想說其實我們一直在講說這個公糧補助啊什麼的我們一直在講我們要鼓勵農民種好米種了好米之後你這樣遇到像日本像鄰近國家有這種糧食荒的時候其實我們的米就可以在這個時候去外銷出去日本買得到 |
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部長您看一下這個照片其實日本是買得到台灣米的依照我們現在現行的這個數字上來看但是呢這個台灣米它沒有品種它沒有很明確的出現說比如說它這個米是哪裡來的它只有告訴你是台灣的米但是比如說像我們美濃的147米 |
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他有沒有可能我們未來有一個品牌化可以銷到日本去讓大家知道說你在日本買到的是高雄的好米是池上的好米是哪裡的好米有沒有可能去做這樣的一個去做這樣的一個政策宣導或者是說做外銷的這樣的一個推動 |
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我想委員提醒的齁 我非常認同 而且我覺得也應該這麼做如果說我們我們削刀日本米都只是寫台灣產的米那就不能凸顯地方的特色所以我們現在一直積極能夠讓我們產地的農會也好 或者比較大的集團產區的話我們會協助他做品牌的建構 然後去對接對方的通路這樣的話就能夠直接把我們地區的這些米的品牌直接帶上架 |
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這個方式我想我們會積極來推動其實過去現在時代已經在轉變部長你可能會知道過去台灣人到日本去旅行的時候會很習慣帶一包日本米回來大家都說日本米很好吃現在已經不一樣了現在是台灣人去日本會習慣把台灣米帶過去給日本的朋友分享那當然這樣子帶出關會有一些簡易的問題這個就 |
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後話啦 這個簡易的部分就後話再談但是就是說台灣米現在已經受到市場上的青睞但我覺得就農業部來講我們應該要更努力的去推展我們所謂的台灣自由品牌米不管是池上 不管是美濃不管是其他的任何的地方 |
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優質好米這件事情我們都應該要盡全力的來推動好嗎我想跟委員報告我們不能因為只是日本現在缺米我們趁機會把米外銷我們希望說米的外銷到日本是一個持續性的工作他必須建立一個完整的供應鏈必須建立相關的品牌跟通路的系統 |
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| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
607.595 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
我們會朝向這個方向來努力那未來如果日本米它本身的供應量還恢復穩定的時候我們還是能夠持續的去供應我們的U子米到它的高端的市場其實我覺得台灣米是有競爭力的啦我認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
609.617 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
627.373 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
日本你的這個米荒解除之後大家如果吃到台灣米吃到好吃大家也會回來買所以我覺得我們自己的品牌建立這件事情是很重要的這個我期待請農業部能夠趕快的去做相關的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
628.874 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
655.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
那我順便趁這個機會跟委員說明也許讓我們的消費者知道如果說我們帶米要到日本去送禮的時候只要是6公斤以下的話你可以直接在機場那邊檢疫就可以了我們在機場有一個檢疫的服務不需要說事前要去做那個所謂的檢疫證的取得在機場可以有一個通路通關可以直接處理那日本帶回來的呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
655.874 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
663.466 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
日本帶回來的相對的應該在日本那邊我覺得你們可能要把那個流程讓大家知道也許在機場的時候我們會盡量的宣導好 謝謝現在請林德福委員做詢問 |