| IVOD_ID |
162289 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162289 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-36-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
19 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-05T11:20:48+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-05T11:28:29+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:41 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3f41131fcd5ae56415fd7b953e4986749f0f8eeb1de8c89c46063d171e8badfa8225e6885a7027b75ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:20:48 - 11:28:29 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第19次全體委員會議（事由：一、併案審查
（一）考試院函請審議「公務人員保障法部分條文修正草案」案。
（二）台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「公務人員保障法增訂第十九條之一條文草案」案。
（三）委員徐欣瑩等27人擬具「公務人員保障法部分條文修正草案」案。
（四）委員蔡其昌等18人擬具「公務人員保障法部分條文修正草案」案。
（五）委員林月琴等31人擬具「公務人員保障法部分條文修正草案」案。
（六）委員李昆澤等29人擬具「公務人員保障法第十九條條文修正草案」案。
（七）委員黃秀芳等21人擬具「公務人員保障法第十九條條文修正草案」案。
二、繼續併案審查
（一）委員李彥秀等18人擬具「公務人員任用法第三十六條之一條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員翁曉玲等22人擬具「公務人員任用法第二十八條之一條文修正草案」案。
【6月2日、4日及5日三天一次會】） |
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主席 各位委員首先針對今天所要討論的郭汶蓮保障法要請教我們保訓會的主任委員這次的一個修正特別重要 |
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因為前一陣子真的是這種職場的霸凌真的是非常的嚴重所以裡面現在特別增加在第19條病死公務員免於遭受職場霸凌等行為在第二項裡面 |
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特別寫持續,這個持續這兩個定義未來怎麼樣去怎麼樣才算持續,這個時間到底是多久還是怎麼樣然後要造成這個敵意性、脅迫性或冒犯性 |
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之不友善工作環境這個都是需要釐清的部分所以這個部分這個要不要請主委說明一下跟委員報告就是有關於這個定義持續 脅迫或是敵意等等那這個是這整個的定義是我們 |
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這個透過多場的這個法治徵詢然後呢也參考了整個職安法草案那所共同訂定下來一致性的這樣子的一個處理方式那所謂的持續呢基本上呢就是陳如委員講的那對於持續這個概念呢就是指說它可能 |
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如果是這個整個要一起看因為後面有一個就是如果是情節重大但是如果今天舉例來講他是每天都比如說有一個主管他每天都就是習慣性的罵他的同仁說你豬頭我沒有要口出諱言我是舉例來講然後呢這個每天大概就這樣子就一段時間那這個 |
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久了當然就會造成這個當事人他會自己開始去懷疑起自己那這個就是有持續性那敵意的話呢 基本上當然我們知道說這種話是不應該說的嘛雖然可能他口頭禪 可是這都不應該是這個就是要讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].start |
151.531 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
168.957 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].text |
怎麼樣讓公務人員了解所以你們除了條文是這樣規定之外相關未來通過之後相關的這些說明對相關的公務人員了解的部分是怎麼樣能夠把它做比較詳細的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
170.619 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
195.167 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
謝謝委員提醒我們已經開始著手這些相關的指引跟案例還有判準謝謝委員的提醒謝謝那現在就是這個第19條之一這條條文裡面這個因案情節輕重依公務員懲戒法公務人員考機法或其他相關法規這個如果是政務官 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
198.117 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
208.957 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
有適用到這幾個法會就是在我們目前的安慰辦法裡面好那這個只要是這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
212.298 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
230.116 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
我們處理霸凌者他現在是明定有很多的機制可以用一個部分就是這邊我們所列舉的包含公務人員服務法、考機法、任用法這些都一定所有人事法制都可以用此外本來公務人員就有懲戒然後行政懲處這是考機法 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
231.107 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
244.971 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
那以我們現在的版本如果它還有涉及到行政法環的部分或是刑事通通都是總共至少有五個機制可以同時並用而且它沒有互相排斥的現象好 謝謝接下來這個第21條 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
253.103 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
275.196 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
特別增加公務員因機關未提供安全及衛生防護措施增加這個然後還有修正治其生命身心健康受損失得以國家賠償法請求賠償那因為今天這個負責國家賠償法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
279.307 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
289.868 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
我不知道他有沒有了解請問一下當初有沒有去跟保護部負責國家賠償的主管的部門有去他們有參與嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
291.297 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
317.763 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
跟我們報告這一條是現行條文就是這樣所以在過去的這個立法過程裡面已經有跟他們有討論過那這一次這次只有增加新啦國賠法本來就是在的這一條本來就是現行條文只是我們增加一個新這件事而已就是讓執法的部分可以你們還增加這個未提供安全及衛生防護措施這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
325.653 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
336.548 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
這個部分他本來就是有但是我們這次寫得更清楚因為整個安慰辦法本來就是包含了安全及衛生的防護 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
338.565 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
355.334 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
這個因為國家培養法第三條本來就有規定了本來就有規定那現在這個做修正怎麼樣去做能夠能夠相互搭配合是一個很重要的好最後這個要請教那個前序部前序部這個針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
359.301 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
371.856 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
警察人員人事條例在114年4月25號已經公布施行這個修正的條文那現在這個開始適用了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
373.447 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
402.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
是跟那個委員報告那個因為法律已經生效了所以後續那個怎麼處理我們已經有跟內政部大概在4月29號5月16號跟5月28號那個由本部的政府次長跟內政部的次長有召開過後因為這個法律條文通過我想您我們大家也說公務員出身嘛那不是法律條文通過就可以馬上可以做出很多事出來那有一些程序性的積極性的技術性的問題都需要處理那這三次會議大概都有擬清清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
403.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
426.333 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
那未來那個警政署這邊會再修正那個施行細則那因為他目前的這個退伏的作業程序是跟現行法律是不一樣的現行的退伏法不一樣那我們的資訊系統也是不一樣的所以這部分都需要再重新再做一些處理第一個您把後續需要做的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
427.233 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
433.499 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
提個素面資料給我這第一個第二個要請前序部協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
436.565 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
455.157 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
請證書因為這個畢竟他們過去沒有自己負責過這樣的一個規定那施行細則的部分請行政部能夠來協助他們來把這個施行細則能夠趕快的發布可以嗎這個我們都一直有保持密切聯繫謝謝 |