| IVOD_ID |
162237 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162237 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-04 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-26-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-04T12:32:18+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-04T12:44:16+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:58 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/dfdeed74d30b9828c902bbec38dda6b069516374867620cee4d45e0249ca52278c2082ecc2dcd8fa5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
楊曜 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:32:18 - 12:44:16 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-04T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：邀請勞動部部長就「勞工退休金制度改革，含勞保、勞退執行現況」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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好 謝謝主席 主席請一下黃部長 |
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部長我們有關勞工退休金制度的改革大概講了非常非常多年其實大概就是一直在原地踏步我今天從幾個面向跟部長做一些探討第一個就是 |
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我們法定的勞保費率將在2027年達到法定上限也就是說勞保年金它自2002009年上路依勞保條例的規定實施第三年期大概每年調高0.5個百分點調到10%以後改成兩年調0.5個百分點一直到它的上限是13 |
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那今年已經到達了12.5%那也就是說下一次所以我一開始才說2027年就會到達法定上限我先請問一下部長會不會提出修法版本確保勞保隊永續經營 |
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那個委員確實現在費率每兩年提高0.5%因為剛剛委員是把舊保的那1%也算進去了那如果不算的話其實是每兩年會到12%所以目前確實在116年會達到上限那你們對於保險費率的提高有沒有什麼想法 |
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確實針對費率的提高這個確實也或者是增加這個保費的負擔的問題其實的確現在各界還有不同的一些意見也尤其也涉及到老公的一些權益那我們我們確實還在審慎的思考好那就是保險費率的部分呢還在思考對 |
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我用你們的精算報告來跟勞保局的2024年的勞保精算報告來幾個數字提供給部長就是說假如說要攤提過去未提存負債的平衡費率大概費率要高達31%假如不攤提也要17% |
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也就是說照你們的精算報告你們大概每幾年就會做一次勞保精算報告嗎?三年這幾年呢也花了一千三百萬左右在做精算報告那我今天沒有那麼多時間可以跟你探討精算報告可是針對精算報告提出來的 |
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就是現行的費率假如不改勞保的洞就會越來越大那我剛才也說了2027年以至後年就會達到法定上限那現在勞動部的態度不明我希望勞動部能夠盡快把政策的方向 |
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確定因為很多東西我覺得我們不應該一直留在停留在委員會討論或者是說社會共識我們部長溝通的觀念不管是多繳少領延後退沒有一項是可以凝聚到社會共識的 |
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這個就是必須要靠執政者的魄力來面對你說社會共識這幾項不可能會有因為他一定會有人出來反對費率提高的部分勞動部還沒有定案請教一下 |
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就是這幾年我先講就是勞工的退休生活特別是以戰後嬰兒潮這一輩的人的觀念他們在多數我不是說全部多數在職業生涯裡面他是沒有自己儲蓄投資的觀念的所以他們信任國家 |
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他們覺得國家會給他特別是勞保年金推出以後他們信任國家會給他們一個在物質生活上的最低保障 |
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所以為什麼我一直對勞保年金的問題非常的重視其實是因為我身邊真的有很多澎湖當然在地的勞工不多可是旅外多為什麼因為澎湖早期就生活困苦也沒就業機會外出沒有主產大概都是一輩子當勞工我很不希望看到像類似的人 |
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工作為社會國家奉獻了一輩子結果他的晚年連最低的生活保障都沒有那假如說費率的部分你還沒有決定那延後退其實現在已經高齡化是全球已開發國家都會面臨的問題 |
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高齡化伴隨的就是身體狀況其實也都保持的還可以所以有很多國家的年金會從延後退休年齡開始譬如說德國跟美國大概都已經調整到67歲連中國啊 |
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今年也要延後退休年齡新加坡、英國、日本也都在年齡我想要請教一下部長有沒有可能我們現在當然可以透過勞資雙方協議這個是議定的這個不是法定的我現在講的是有沒有可能 |
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勞動部的政策在法定的退休年齡做延後的政策跟姚委員說沒有的確這段時間其實也蠻多人提到這個延後退休的議題我們也看到有些國家其實已經開始了這個延後退的這個做法也都引起很大的反彈是是是 |
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所以確實我們其實現在也在收集其實各方的意見所以我剛才其實延後退也有分強制的部分延後退還是自願性的部分延後退所以我想我們其實現在也在收集一些各方針對延後退看法的意見 |
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再進行一些評估不過確實這個議題就像剛剛委員說的其實在社會上面各方看法都可能有很大的差距那這個調高費率未定延後退休也還要討論那我簡單因為時間的關係我簡單再問就是因為財政收支劃分法 |
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的修正會不會影響到明年度政府的撥補 |
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撥補勞保年金的虧損會不會應該說因為確實勞保的撥補它在我們整體的這個財快的制度裡面它並不屬於法定支出因為它不屬於法定支出的確是有可能會有影響的但是我們會盡力爭取我們會盡力爭取能夠維持跟過去至少是相近的水位部長 |
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會影響的話就是洞會越來越大老闆的財務黑洞越來越大然後問題會一直留著當然可能在我們的任期內都不用面對到可是總有一天會面對所以我最後還是要跟勞動部建議也跟召委建議 |
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勞保撥補之所以是非法定支出是因為勞保基金的裁員裡面我們沒有把政府撥補列入裁員之一這個第一點我們假如說 |
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因為我個人是有提修法版本的所以我增加了勞保裁員的項目增加了政府撥補把政府撥補的責任法定化然後我也同時把 |
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執政黨最不願意面對的政府負擔最終責任入法我覺得假如把這兩個把這個版本拿來討論趕快通過那就變成法定支出那以後 |
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636.636 |
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楊仁第一個我想對於大家在講到最終責任的入法我想我們是持開放的態度我們並沒有不願意面對其實是持開放的態度所以你們不會提版本可是委員的版本你們是競表贊同的我可以不可以競表尊重然後持開放的態度那我就也拜託召委就是趕快排因為我覺得 |
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639.537 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
659.197 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
其實誰執政都不大可能讓勞保倒因為勞保涉及了台灣二分之一的人口的生活權益不可能讓他倒可是與其空口說白話不如把它明文化 |
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660.693 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
681.637 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
與其一直對著全國的人民說有政府在勞保就不會倒那不如我們就把他入法這個是我的建議啦我相信還有很多相關的問題是我們在這個委員會會不斷討論的也希望勞動部這邊不要每一次 |
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688.598 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
715.886 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
每一次對每一個面向你們都沒有堅定的政策決定我再重申任何一項改革像當初軍工教育連改我也不相信這個是社會大眾的攻勢只是說執政者願不願意下定決心去面對而已好 謝謝部長 謝謝主席謝謝楊偉 謝謝部長 |