| IVOD_ID |
162199 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162199 |
| 日期 |
2025-06-04 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第24次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
24 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第24次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-06-04T09:58:34+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-06-04T10:13:01+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:14:27 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/dfdeed74d30b98287123029420161dde55f40b4dcc086d9f1b0714f80b9af8b53309862b0372d3b35ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王美惠 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:58:34 - 10:13:01 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-06-04T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第24次全體委員會議（事由：一、建築法：
(一) 審查委員賴瑞隆等16人擬具「建築法第九十一條條文修正草案」案。
(二) 審查委員顏寬恒等21人擬具「建築法第七十三條條文修正草案」案。
(三) 審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具「建築法第九十九條之一條文修正草案」案。
(四) 審查委員黃建賓等16人擬具「建築法第五十六條、第五十八條及第八十七條條文修正草案」案。
(五) 審查委員徐巧芯等22人擬具「建築法第八十九條條文修正草案」案。
(六) 審查委員陳菁徽等20人擬具「建築法第九十七條條文修正草案」案。
(七) 審查委員顏寬恒等17人擬具「建築法第九十七條條文修正草案」案。
(八) 審查委員林岱樺等17人擬具「建築法第五十四條條文修正草案」案。
(九) 審查委員陳超明等18人擬具「建築法第七十七條之二及第九十五條之一條文修正草案」案。
(十) 審查台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「建築法第七十七條之二及第九十五條之一條文修正草案」案。
(十一) 審查委員邱鎮軍等19人擬具「建築法第七十七條條文修正草案」案。
(十二) 審查委員邱鎮軍等18人擬具「建築法第六十三條及第八十九條條文修正草案」案。
二、平均地權條例：
審查委員牛煦庭等18人擬具「平均地權條例第二十五條條文修正草案」案。
【全案合併詢答；建築法第(十)案如經院會復議則不予審查，建築法第(十一)及(十二)案如未經院會交付本會審查或未經各黨團簽署不復議同意書則不予審查】【6月4日及5日兩天一次會】） |
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主席我們請部長跟國土署署長劉部長、吳署長有請委員老大部長老大、署長老大署長跟部長應該知道最近假日期跟婚禮都有發生健康基礎的問題 |
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在這裡面說實在的,我們都覺得說,我們的財產,欠也欠,去買買一間房子,以前是怕自己買的時候不便宜,所以我們中央政府有一個信託, |
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在信託裡面,我們有五個方法,給健康的選擇,要在我看起來,這五個方法 |
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差不多都是保障健康完全沒有看到我們要處理好萬一健康倒下或是健康沒有進行的時候要如何對我們的百姓來有什麼幫助尤其這五個方法 |
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不是我們買房子的人選擇的啦是建商自己選擇的尤其跟他最近發生了一件事這個建商是選擇他的基金互相報的啦他在這個基金裡面 |
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雖然我們沒有在祈祷什麼,也知道他們家鄉有很多公司的互相來做報,這間如果倒閉,一年代的關係,就都倒閉了所以說保證,這個過程當中,我真的看到 |
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這二十五個我們的服務組的定情對我們的企業是這麼大要不要收了解一下說實在我鼻鼻鼻鼻的好辛苦你看他們欠的欠有的拿八十萬有的已經拿兩百幾萬要不然我們有辦法保證什麼 |
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像我們的港北省,因為它還有信託啊,所以我不怕結果沒去過說,那棟房子已經去到95%了,已經要交他們的租金了,金箱只有六個月 |
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像這個問題,雖然我們沒有辦法去管理他健康會不會到,但是我們的心保是不是要有一個再修改的改進 |
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我感覺看起來,這國家怎麼幫助北省什麼啦所以在這裏面的過程當中,保證你有什麼好的意見,讓這裡的北省年輕人想要買房子,不可以再封,說得這麼難聽,說得這麼方便啦說得這麼難聽,說得這麼難聽,說得這麼難聽,說得這麼難聽,說得這麼難聽,說得這麼難聽,說得這麼難聽,說得這麼難聽,說得這麼難聽,說得這麼難聽,說得這麼難聽,說得這麼難聽,說得這麼難聽,說得這麼難聽,說得這麼難聽,說得這麼難聽,說得這麼難聽,說得這麼難聽,說得這麼難聽,說得這麼難聽,說得這麼難聽,說得這麼難聽,說得這麼難聽,說得這麼難聽,說得這麼難聽,說得這麼難聽 |
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所以保證在這裡我重點要講到四分之一你如何要讓百姓知道嗎說實在對一個百姓來說有的有錢人聽到沒有什麼對一個百姓對我來說我做到百姓說的話是非常心疼的保證是不是你有什麼好辦法 |
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報告委員啦,很感謝委員的關心啦尤其是這間的部分,一般聽說就是叫做爛尾樓啦但是呢,這19戶裡面已經全部賣掉了但是呢,他那時候有拆出一個叫做戒金信託,價金信託啦就是從我來講,沒有在裡面選定一間 |
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那價金信託的部分呢我們怎麼樣從這個地方來拆解包括說未來可能要走到民事訴訟的部分相關的處理機制我可不可以牽起我們地政司長幫你報告一下好不好我們再來看要怎麼好的改革好不好因為 司長因為補充解說這樣啦那我要跟你說是覺得說我們未來這個環不是保障健康啦在我所了解啦 |
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他的地域已經有第二台第三台了所有19號買的人完全沒有辦法請出任何什麼錢所以說在這個規定裡面,我們的手法裡面漸漸世代的變化,我們北省的人民,我覺得有信託 |
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跟健相拿回去,我找小孩就好了結果沒去過,第五條的這個找小孩的時候小孩說,跟他去交代,跟我就給他娘,跟他一娘了了 |
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市長你知不知道那個委員一直很關心這個案子所以那個嘉義市的部分已經在昨天有召開消保的一個調處那這個房子的話建案其實是已經蓋好可是實在還拿不出來那因為昨天因為建商他們也沒有出面所以以至於調處不成 |
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那其實嘉義市政府之前也在有透過工會在看有沒有建商有續建的機制這個也是另外在處理的一條路那委員特別關心就是有關預收履約保證機制就是要怎麼樣照顧好我們買方保護好我們買方其實我們內政部從去年前年就開始去做一些相關的檢討 |
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那因為那會涉及到...那相關的檢討到現在有檢討到什麼出來嗎因為現在的部分要涉及到修正預修定型化契約的規定那你現在說的就是還沒修出來的嘛那風雲都出來了風雲都出來了風雲都出來了 要不然再加27%這件事都沒辦法做到啦 |
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市長,我們有研究要怎麼改善,不是一組研究兩組研究,部隊也要研究,職員也要研究,不是這樣啦,我們發生事情,覺得沒有辦法保障社會這件事,我們就要過程處理啦 |
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你現在這樣在那裡煩人了,發動的聲聲鼓鼓都說我們應該要關心民生啦,的事情啦大家記住了,記住了,市長,說實在,我身為在家裡的妻子的時候我看到這個來發生的時候,我相信我們為了不是在家裡的妻子而已 |
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很多地方都有,結果沒辦法,必須沒辦法啦!市長,在這裡我也知道你還沒提出啦,我先跟你在這裡談到的時候,我問你多久可以提出? |
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我們現在已經說了差不多了,存一些細節再去處理我老公啦!因為我三個月內,我們有一個方案三個月喔?只有三個月以來,如果發生什麼事情,他們就憑什麼不說我也是把自己的事做成這樣的案件,是不是會斷更快? |
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那個委員報告一下嘉義市的部分我們先請嘉義市政府協助民眾看是不是從什麼相關的法律途徑先來合理是啦,如果可以改革開放的時候可以還是可以你們看我後面不會在這裡發這麼大的脾氣啦因為說實在找的問題都找了啦這是我們覺得說我們這個說話難聽的啦,正經的啦 |
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570.165 |
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一定要保護健康啦所以未來一定要保護賣家的人啦我們現在的風險就是保護消費者賣家的消費者市長你剛才說三公尾你還可以提早多久 |
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有涉及到那個消費者其實我知道啦我才不知道它有涉及這很多的問題即使我不是在這裡要幫你挖螞蟻啦它說三個月、兩個月、一個月我們負責任外省就可以負責任幫助一些人買房子 |
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當場賣的建築可以到三天補貨啦所以市長這件事要緊好不好好謝謝委員在這我要跟我們的部長跟他討論我們今天的建築法裡面有第73條第一項的規定就是說我們這間它的建築物 |
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能夠申請這麼多錢,但是地方為了照顧他弱勢的家庭他要去違章,要去申請,但是他那麼弱勢他沒有水沒錢,說實在也可憐所以在這個過程當中,我們台北市長83年以上 |
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從1992年以後,有的事都沒有在認可,結果在這個過程當中,我認為如果有特殊弱勢,我們本來就要到三天後,我們中央照顧這個弱勢,出多少錢,關心多少 |
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但是也不可以亂北部啦像這個問題當中,我覺得我們要一視同仁我們不能做爛好人啦李署長,我先跟你講一下要如何去這個問題做好全台灣合併幫的條例,來 |
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跟委員報告,其實當時這個母法的規定本來就會預留一個預留一個就是說有特殊條款啦也就是說,我們就很了解有一些稍微偏軟啦或是說有一些地方,它有可能這個 |
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有一些透過一個傷害 尤其是骨瘤的處啦它如果經過地震或有傷害過 它如果要停職它總不可能說 我一個停職 我的處要停卡住 還要停下來我相信我們有很多的情形是 原來這個辦法就停不住所以我們原來在這個條文裡面就是希望說你地方政府如果確實有迫切民生需要的那這一些其實就會變成說 它是本來就可以除外條款 |
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那所以就這個部分我們也是希望讓地方政府有自己的經過自己的需要啦因為每一間市的經營確實沒工所以這一點我們為什麼在...阿那阿那台北市給他通過他中間炒九檔是阿所以... 阿那他會在一個八成覺得比較倒霉 |
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應該這樣說啦 因為我想在很多地方他也會有一些除外條款那除外條款當然地方政府會去一時之間請請去認啦不會說一定要強制去做因為我覺得我們中央的手法是要專門照顧全台灣的百姓尤其這條是照顧全台灣百姓若是 |
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所以我們問問,如果照顧好,既然要修緩的時候,我們就要注意,不好好的變性是一個太過親切的條款啦,好不好 |
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因為這件事你要特別注意因為我講這樣 應该署長你做得很久了我去台南來你了解我講的問題出一台因為我們股市有正經的我們股市有正經的部分太多了 |
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他這時候都看民生都做得好我也不需要說當這個當這個說你有遇到任何傷害或什麼的時候你就要過整個課長庭來這始終...市長我會說這樣你要去相公的主委我們要修的選不要覺得說有問題 |
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王美惠委員的質詢 |