| IVOD_ID |
162095 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162095 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第23次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
23 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第23次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-29T10:23:07+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-29T10:32:32+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:25 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/99583f279a18fcc14dfec5cb880dbc937d62036aaba8f190531422321b8e3e87f22a5a2e4754ce135ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
許宇甄 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:23:07 - 10:32:32 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第23次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查委員邱志偉等16人擬具「臺灣地區與大陸地區人民關係條例第九條及第九十一條條文修正草案」案。二、審查委員王定宇等16人擬具「臺灣地區與大陸地區人民關係條例第九條之三條文修正草案」案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具「臺灣地區與大陸地區人民關係條例第九條之三、第九條之四及第九十一條條文修正草案」案。四、審查委員林楚茵等20人擬具「臺灣地區與大陸地區人民關係條例第九十條條文修正草案」案。五、審查委員沈伯洋等20人擬具「香港澳門關係條例第十條條文修正草案」案。六、審查委員張宏陸等20人擬具「香港澳門關係條例第十四條、第十四條之一及第四十七條之一條文修正草案」案。【第三案如經院會復議則不予審查。】） |
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謝謝主席 我們請邱主委好 請主委 |
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主委好 針對你們陸委會在報告的第二頁提到說為避免中共利用台灣民眾發表矮化我方主權等相關正義的言行混淆我國認同以稅請其侵略並吞台灣之政治目的本提案有助於維護我國主權與尊嚴所以陸委會予以支持 |
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主委既然你這邊要談矮化跟談尊嚴我們今天就再來探討一下賴清德總統說的大公司的併購說上次在質詢的時候我請教過您賴總統說的中國是比較大的公司台灣是比較小的公司如果大公司要併購小公司大陸應該要提條件不是台灣來提條件 |
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像是主委您是請我不要過度延伸總統的話那今天我們就從字面上來討論我要很嚴肅的請教主委為什麼我們的總統要公開宣稱台灣是比較小的公司 |
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國家元首在國際跟全民之前用小來形容自己的國家地位這難道不是自我矮化嗎難道國家的主權還有大小之分嗎難道這樣的說法不是在傷害台灣的主權跟尊嚴嗎請主委回答委員我還是要強調兩岸的互動不應該 |
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不然是創設一個我們無法接受的前提然後把不交流是說併購這兩個字嗎不是你不能說你一定要接受我一中原則的九二共識你必須要先接受我們要先接受台灣是中華人民共和國的一部分總統說的併購說你同意嗎他說我們是小公司兩個互動要對等尊嚴相互尊重那請問一下他說我們自己是小公司這樣有沒有矮化的 |
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他只是做一個兩岸在互動的時候你不要設置我們無法接受的前提那這個前提就是要求台灣變成地方政府台灣成為中華人民共和國的一部分所以面對主權的時候我們是寸步都不能退讓不該有這種什麼小公司的比喻不管是用什麼比喻我覺得用這樣來形容自己這種 |
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自貶式的一個角色的一個敘述都不是一個國家的元首那賴總統是什麼意思那請您解釋一下好 主委不要預加我們無法接受的前提不是 主委 那我給你30秒不接受 你就不需要用賴總統說的這個小公司是什麼意思我給你30秒時間 |
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兩岸互動應該要秉持著對等尊嚴 相互尊重這只是在做兩岸互動的比喻 不用過度的延伸不是過度的延伸 我現在在請教你 你也講不出來好 我們現在再來講 |
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我跟委員報告我每次在做民調一年以來有七成以上的民眾不贊成台灣接受中國大陸不合理的政治檢體我沒有惱羞成怒我只是說兩岸的互動應該要對等尊嚴 相互尊重 |
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他應該要正視中華民國客觀存在的事實我一直問你我們總統說的這個小公司什麼意思你都不敢正面回答代表你就知道這樣的敘述是不對的這樣有自我矮化的一個問題所以你一直不敢正面回答我一直在扯東扯西的我沒有不正義而是說不用過度的解讀跟區別如果今天這些話 |
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是國際媒體還有對岸的媒體來引用賴總統說的小公司的言論大作文章請問我們要怎麼澄清我跟國際媒體講這個他們就聽得懂你跟他互動就是要對等尊嚴不必要相互尊重你不要拿一個我們無法接受的前提嘛自我矮化的意思嗎 |
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你不要設置一個我們無法接受的前提嘛然後把所有的無法交流互動塞給你我們不接受就用軍機艦島來威嚇我們因為要你去反駁賴總統說的話這也是為難你啦那當然今天的修法就有人提議嘛就是我們要政務副首長以上檢任13職以上的人員還有中校以上的軍官各級公立學校校長不得參與 |
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大陸地區的黨政軍活動否則可能違反妨礙國家尊嚴那你們也支持修法的方向請問主委所謂妨礙國家尊嚴這是法律明文定義的概念還是行政機關主觀判定的結果 |
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我們對於委員為了強化我們民主機制為了減少對跟中國大陸被他滲透統戰分化那麼訂了這些法律那我們也有強調由於有限制民眾的這些言論或是表意的這些所以反對國家尊嚴有法律明文的定義嗎 |
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部分我如果說進入到法律實質的部分我們願意坐下來再來斟酌自言就是一個主觀判定嘛那也就是說如果在活動上奏大陸的國歌我們代表就是尊重主辦方的國際禮儀然後站起來的話這樣會不會說是配合統戰跟委員報告我們現行的法律還不是修法對於中國大陸黨政軍舉辦的國家慶典 |
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我們的如果退降或是我們的像規範的這些國家安全的這些機關的這些副首長以上的人去參加這個活動未經許可去參加這個活動對他的旗揮歌的行李唱頌行李唱頌都是違法的要依法處分這個是目前的法律規定違反什麼法 |
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違反聯安條例具體有條之三好 那我現在請教您一下喔2026年APEC峰會將會由中國主辦屆時我們一定要派官員去參加那開幕式會奏中國的國歌我們的官員是應該要站起來還是應該要繼續做委員 這個都是經過政府核准的我們剛才講那個是未經許可的所以說參加APEC峰會的人我們到大陸去的話只要他這個站起來 |
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唱中國的國歌站起來的時候是沒有問題的嗎我想我們每次到中國大陸參加國際會議都有一定的規範基本上他會有一個適當的表達作為同時他們是受到政府同意前往所以不受到你剛剛所說的第九條之殺所以是沒有問題嗎不好意思主席再給我三十秒 |
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邱主委很多的時間回答最後再問您一個問題就是我們台灣在2010年的上海市博會跟2015年的米蘭市博會都有設置台灣館那儘管地緣政治的壓力存在我們依舊能夠在國際舞台上保有主體性跟名稱的尊嚴但是在今年日本大阪所舉辦的這個市博會 |
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我們卻只能用Tech World科技館的名義參加連台灣館三個字都消失了這樣的退讓與隱身不僅是對我國主權性的自我切割也是對我們人民的這個雙重背叛更離譜的是根據中央社的報導這個是日本共同社引述知情人士指出是日本外務省的應中國的要求向我方施壓要求不得冠名台灣主委請問一下 |
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這樣是不是中國對我國的民意的打壓這樣是不是配合中國的行為如果說連台灣管三個字都不敢說那還是台灣政府嗎那也不是贊重了對岸去台灣化的這個下懷而且這個就叫維護國家尊嚴嗎所以如果這樣子的話那你覺得我們是不是應該 |
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要處罰經濟部 因為他算不算配合統戰我想我們要譴責的是中共對台灣的外交打壓無所不用其極 這個只會讓台灣人那我們自己是不是應該堅守自己的尊嚴呢否則為什麼2010的世博會可以2015的米蘭世博會也可以唯獨2025的世博會卻不行而且我方也接受了 |
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我們可以不要去設啊既然矮化我們不讓我們設台灣管我們也可以不要去設啊所以連自己國家的名字都不敢說出口的政府喔我覺得有什麼資格去處罰台灣人民有什麼資格去處罰所謂的我們的一些台灣的演藝人員說他們不夠愛國所以請你們從這個大阪的這個科技管的名字開始先處罰我們還是要譴責中共對台灣的打壓我覺得要先從自己做起謝謝 |