| IVOD_ID |
162084 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162084 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-23-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-29T10:10:05+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-29T10:18:51+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:46 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/99583f279a18fcc1ee20496456d86f52fa28f537c7c679770b07ac742f6d23203ca1aa3cb4c11c7f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
徐富癸 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:10:05 - 10:18:51 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：處理114年度中央政府總預算關於國家運輸安全調查委員會預算凍結案計6案。
【5月28日及29日二天一次會】） |
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謝主席,有請我們林主委主委長,我想我剛剛聽了我們前面幾位委員針對這個三峽事故的一個詢問那我聽到主委的答案,我覺得很遺憾,主委 |
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一個這樣的案子竟然要調查一年才會出爐那我們交通部這個部長隔天就已經有宣布了一些新的一些政策甚至在下個月這些政策就要陸續上路但是萬一你們調查的結果跟我們交通部推出的改革的一個政策不一樣的時候要怎麼辦 |
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這會不會有這樣一個矛盾的問題?應該不會不會?不會好 主委我想這個我們最近也一直看到包含我們的這個很多的現在這個都會區包含我們這個很多的重要的一個鄉鎮我們的標誌標線甚至這個燈號都在做一些調整改善那我想我們都是為了行人安全 |
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那我想三峽這個事故一樣,它那個標誌標証也有要清澈啊啊為什麼還有發生這樣的一個狀況難道這個必須還要花一年的時間才能夠調查,不可以有一個初步的一個結果趕快讓交通部做一個後續改革的一個參考嘛,不可以加快時程 |
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加快施整就是我報告過了我們會我們現在動員15個人立在調查這個案子我們會想辦法把它縮短它自己縮短到一個月或多久我還不知道因為要看過程中我們都清楚因為我們現在你們的職責裡面當然我們是必須要把問題理清楚那你們現在手邊的案子也這麼多我剛剛聽到你們動員了15個人在處理這個案對不對對 |
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好 我也擔心你們先15個人調來處理這個案子之後把過去累積的案子再放在一邊針對這些水路 公路 航空的事件調查結果是不是又要拖延很久會不會又造成一個惡劑循環會排擠 會排擠這排擠你要改過 人家不只說排擠而已我們現在說的這個案子差不多大家都在加班 |
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是啦 所以我們也是希望不能因為這樣 要創一間創到這麼久 其他又崩壞這樣未來你這些政策的調整是要怎麼跟得上我們的腳步可以做的條件不然這一年保庇都沒得出水果 沒法情恰好 這邏輯很奇怪我們其他組我們會貪心凋肚 人力不支援啦 |
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我們希望不要這樣子的 這樣的內部的一個調整造成我們過去的一個調查機制的一個延宕 我覺得這是不對的一個方向啦 |
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現在這個都上網在對外招考 |
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都在民謠中沒有做這個坦白講我們也不可以隨便說阿媽阿狗都不可以我們一些專業事實上他有來到後來我們像我們有一組人進來的時候後來經過委員去討論說好像 |
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比較沒什麼苛刻後來又重新對我來講所以當然我們一定要找專業的人來做處理啦我們謹慎用專業的人啦但是你沒找人你就不知道要做事情啦這我們也是很緊的請神容易送神難啦就很累啦就還是還是還是要謹慎啦你都叫你沒信心你找人你都沒信心有啦有啦有啦這也很奇怪的邏輯啊對 |
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所以我想這個我們都很願意剛剛包含我們很多委員都很願意支持我們運營會的預算我們也希望補足你們的人力但是相對性你們要把你們的工作表現績效呈現出來這對國人比較有交代 |
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我們的成效確實是很多我想我事後可以把一些我們過去譬如說去年前年的我跟委員報告只是我們可能利於表達沒有讓人家覺得說主委我們不要漂亮的報告我們要實務的作為啦好不好這真的是對我們整個運輸交通事故最重要的一個關鍵啦是是是你報告什麼 |
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現在這麼漂亮,Paper這樣漂亮有什麼用?數據就不改善了,這有什麼用?這很矛盾的啦主委你有信心嗎?沒有啦,沒有信心啦,因為我們調查出來的結果各主管機關,他們比較積極,我們就比較有成就感啦 |
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啊你這樣 我覺得這又是道國的原因啊你不趕快撥出來 讓這個業務單位可以做改善 它是怎麼辦我們有些調查案 調查期間我們說會不會通告好 你想你這樣 這三峽事故一年後我想今天又發生一個 看了一個新聞一個九十幾歲的伯伯 |
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人要走車就這樣 沒辦法走車還要人家插 這是要怎麼開車類似這種事件我們都很擔心 但是你們現在針對交通部未來的政策你們今天不可以先給一個方向 先給一個調查的一個結果我覺得這是大家要相輔相成最後來處理努力的一個結果啦我們會加速這個調查的期程 |
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所以我想我們去年 醫院會提出了99個改善的建議分別是這個水路有55項這個鐵路有19項跟公路21項水路佔了將近很大的一個比例那尤其這個 |
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因為立案調查的有162件的漁船的重大的水路事故我想我來組這個檳榔我們有很多的一個漁船的一個業者大家都希望可以平安但是這樣的一個事故發生之外依你們現在目前的調查狀況到底需要改善的部會是農業部、交通部還是勞動部這跟我解明確的答案 |
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目前最需要改善水路的應該是交通部 航港局他的案子最多原因是 什麼 原因出在哪裡原因就是他飲水人的作業的問題 飲水人的法規 飲水人辦事處的問題最大對 找出問題之後 現在怎麼解決現在他局長也很積極 他們成立一個專案小組 每個月都在開會包括法規的修訂 包括執行面的問題等等 |
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什麼時候會有一個具體的改善結果這個應該今年內會有很重大的一個進展因為他開會都有請我們過去練習跟他們討論 |
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主委我還是要提醒依我們調閱到資料目前改善的這個完成率來看水路事故這兩年的改善完成率都是最低的那漁業也是我們很重要的一個產業我想這個漁運會走入旁袋怎麼樣強化我們這個水路跟漁船主委的安全主委可不可以再加快時程對謝謝 |
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好那另外我想我們這個我最近也一直針對我們小琉球跟坤町我們這個海域因為我們有很多潛水的一個遊客那我們發現了這個潛水的那個區域劃分跟所謂的一個漁船的這個航道頂尿不蓋潛測造成潛水客在這個航道裡面浮潛被漁船撞到這屬狗這隻狗 |
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我想運營會也應該要來積極協調 相關部會 請你們做一個有效的釐清這該當是行政部門應該要怎麼去規範這樣的一個 禁止一個潛水的行為 |
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這後壁湖這個外海潛水客被漁船羅先生講打傷是這個案子是個案啦那我們有跟航港局那邊有跟他們聯絡說這個案子你們要去調查因為就如同委員講你們這個區域方面好像不清楚啦所以我們還是要希望趕快來做調查啊對啊我們有跟他們講這個案子雖然雖然我們沒有調查但是我們之前有跟他們聯繫過對不只後壁湖喔連小琉球都有發生這種狀況小琉球也是喔是啊這很危險的是 |
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主委我想這樣我們再積極來處理好不好是是我也來開一個合表會我們來一起來共同來協調這個案子是謝謝委員指導好謝謝謝謝謝謝 |