iVOD / 162058

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IVOD_ID 162058
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162058
日期 2025-05-28
會議資料.會議代碼 聯席會議-11-3-36,19-1
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第3會期司法及法制、經濟委員會第1次聯席會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 3
會議資料.會次 1
會議資料.種類 聯席會議
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] 36
會議資料.委員會代碼[1] 19
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] 司法及法制委員會
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] 經濟委員會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第3會期司法及法制、經濟委員會第1次聯席會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2025-05-28T13:56:35+08:00
結束時間 2025-05-28T14:01:33+08:00
影片長度 00:04:58
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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委員名稱 鄭天財Sra Kacaw
委員發言時間 13:56:35 - 14:01:33
會議時間 2025-05-28T13:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第3會期司法及法制、經濟委員會第1次聯席會議(事由:併案審查(一)行政院函請審議、(二)委員王美惠等18人、(三)委員羅廷瑋等18人、(四)委員李坤城等16人、(五)委員吳秉叡等18人、(六)委員陳亭妃等16人、(七)委員蔡易餘等17人、(八)委員何欣純等22人及(九)委員吳思瑤等17人分別擬具「個人資料保護委員會組織法草案」案。 【第(八)案如經院會復議,則不予審查;第(九)案各黨團若未提出不復議同意書,則不予審查】 (星期三下午及星期四全天為一次會))
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transcript.whisperx[0].text 主席有請李主任請李主任還有另外也是姓李李次長
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transcript.whisperx[1].text 好,兩位,這個今天上次在經濟委會也有質詢過這個應該要趕快提出來那現在這個草案送來了按照111年宪判至第13號的一個判決這個3年內,到8月就3年了
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transcript.whisperx[2].text 如果沒有研會就算今天我研會審查完也沒有辦法三讀通過所以這個是還好有研會
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 這個時間其實是要掌握那中央行政機關組織基準法第三條特別規定這個獨立機關相關的這些定義這裡面都很清楚那現在就是說這個你現在是三級機關嘛三級機關這個當初是怎麼樣的考量要二級機關還是三級機關有怎麼樣的當初有評估嗎
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 跟委員報告,就是我們大概也看了其他,尤其歐盟,那因為歐盟他們的體制目前現階段,我們在,我還在國發會的時候曾經有跟他們司法總有問過,他們是沒有所謂的二級三級的概念,他們認為說所以不能參考歐盟啊?
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 因為他們跟我們制度不一樣就如同剛剛前面已經看到我們中央行政組織計畫已經訂了獨立機關就是獨立行使職權也是依照法律所賦予的所以在這個角度裡面他不會說因為二三級而導致說他的行使職權去降低在台灣不一樣這個我們當公務員很久了你在司法機關也當過所以在台灣不一樣
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 所以這個部分我個人是認為應該是要二級機關既然這麼重要我只是憲法判決說要成立的對不對那你現在就變成是這個三級機關何況他這個涉及到個人資料何況這個個人資料外洩的太嚴重了所以這個部分是一個需要去這個再好好的評估的部分
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 然後這個 剛剛提到了這個最主要就是說 這個理事長委員好這個未來 因為它是三級獨立機關然後這個預算顏額編制顏額 法定的編制顏額而且是公務人員禁用的目前有沒有一個規劃
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 目前我們按照現在當然如果籌備住戶現在在盤點嘛,為了業務發展狀況,那我們那個如果這個委員會的組織法也成立了,然後個資法也通過,那會盤點整個業務狀況,他會預估所需要的原額狀況,我們再合給所以目前還沒有?好,李主任,目前有嗎?
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 因為作用法也還在審所以 人總意思是說要等他作用法到底他顧那個量多少他會再跟我們討論說那個到底完成錯誤為什麼呢主任這是錯誤的你現在就應該有一個規劃預計多少人法這個你後面的後面這一條你都可以寫
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 約聘僱的你就可以寫聘用人員聘用條例的不需要利用資格的你就可以寫多少人法定顏額的你不寫何況何況現在已經在籌編預算了籌編明年的預算了對不對多少顏額多少人多少經費多少預算已經在籌編了8月底就要送到立法院了
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 所以這個部分還是說不想公開講沒有關係但是按照剛才的答覆是這是太慢了如果你說不方便講你就叫不方便講好不好加油好 謝謝謝謝委員好 謝謝