| IVOD_ID |
162051 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162051 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-22-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-28T13:27:29+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-28T13:37:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:31 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/75aba70f567c6f24af5409fc0da5bb17b893ac8d10b5d33da2a5d391d24d3b60f0ff8c573899f8c45ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:27:29 - 13:37:00 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-28T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：處理114年度中央政府總預算有關教育部主管預算解凍案33案。） |
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委員好博定,我今天要給你探討一個吹哨者來澄清台灣教育界非常嚴重的問題就是有性侵的這個狼屍啊在各大補習班流竄狼爪這個陰影籠罩在前台這個靴子那我先給你看吹哨者澄清的這個內容 |
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這個個案啊 這個狼屍的個案啊一定是2014年10月時他就犯案了在2015年的3月27號新北市新北的地檢依照防害性自主起訴在2015年的時候判決就確定了喔確定依照教育部的這個法令規定這老師應該不能再教了吧他離開了學校竟然跑去補習班了 |
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後來有人檢舉在2023年的7月12號補習班官網把他這個狼屍的這個資訊把他下架可是在去年2024年6月22號我們追蹤到他還在補習班待課國二的這個理化更嚴重的吹哨者來陳情說除了這個個案之外 |
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還有其他的受害者部長你長久在教育界嘛不只是一個個案我們看下一張其實啦包括在高雄台南包括去年七月屏東中華台東跟桃園都出現過類似的有前科的狼屍在補習班出沒的這個新聞 |
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所以我今天要先問一個最嚴肅的問題這種悲劇這種讓人家心痛的事情為什麼一再發生如果照補習跟進修教育法第九條第六項 |
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我想這一個 |
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陳副委員所關心的當然就是在整個那一個流程的監管過程確實有疏漏有疏漏我們今天很明確把它提出來然後要趕快補破你一定知道林立寒條款對不對我們台灣被認為是文壇的新星林立寒就黃思綺那個悲劇 |
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在他離開這世界的一個月內我們立法院曾經做了一個很重要的修法教育部那時候也急著要做這件事 對不對那時候的內容來 看這個 博定你真的看立法院通過補習跟進修教育法第九條修正條文明定補習班的教職員工都必須要揭露他的真實姓名 對不對 |
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等一下我會跟你講現在的這個郎師啊他就用化名變成一個大漏洞了第二個為了確保學生的安全補習班申請立案人或者人事異動的時候你還要附上教職員工的名冊 |
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跟警察刑事記錄等證明文件讓地方主管機關要核准第三條也很重要條文裡面還明定喔補習班相關人員如果知道有性侵害性騷擾發生的時候要跟相關的機關通報杜傑不適任人員進入補教界我要問 保定教育部有貫徹這個條文嗎這個叫林毅涵條款 |
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跟委員報告其實當時候補習經濟學法修正以後其實我們就有系統然後現在就要求就是說在申請要這個有關這些職員相關名冊的時候都要先經過縣市政府在24小時內要通報出來然後在中央這邊會經過三個工作天會跟法務部等等去做調查如果證實屬實就會上這個系統登錄那所有要應用的時候 |
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那時候雷利風險去修了一個閥一個月內就修了一個閥結果漏洞百出我剛可以看的不是個案是通案這幾年來一直在出現林益海這個事情已經多久了2017年到現在結果每一段時間就被逼出來 |
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教育部要正視這個問題要解決好不好來我進一步來我們我想我們來加強督導然後如果有這些補習班真的違反我們這些相關的一些規定我相信我們應該要跟地方責成要有一個更嚴厲的一個處分甚至不惜這個應該該吊銷這個執照的責任我想我們就朝那個方向來努力我定 |
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吹哨者來陳情之後 我們去做了一部分的這個追查我現在跟你講 來 我可以看一下這個畫面我們是怎麼去查這個案子的連那個陳情人啊 他都提到了有人來檢舉說提供那個萃跟戴的上面那個手機的這個畫面他們在上面討論說有一個老師在這邊你看左邊這個畫 |
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這個都是來催哨者提供之後有很多人陳情他就提到說這個老師還在補習班教書現在都還在喔然後媒體也開始去追這幾天連媒體昨天都報導了那張圖就是一個補習班因為我背那個人就是那個老師他教這幾個人還要去補習班你看這是多大的一個漏洞然後我進一步去追我從那個補習班的那個網站上面去看還可以看到他的 |
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老師的這個資訊你看這麼明目張膽完全不符合我們這個規定甚至他去補習班帶課這影片都有2024年的6月23號都還在上課結果你說你修了法你要杜絕這個悲劇在發生啊悲劇就一直在產生啊我現在今天跟你講這個個案我去追每個畫面都有等一下我會把名字給你 |
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把這個普及班給你 好不好那更重要的不是只有個個案它是一個通案 我剛才說的個案也有 中華也有 轉型也有 |
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這一個案子委員所關心的事實上已經因為他到這個沒有立案的補習班去教然後經過這個吹哨子這個舉發那地方政府也已經立即集合然後勒令這個老師離開這個補習班 |
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這一個地方政府也裁划了這一個補習班有25萬的這個罰款那我想我非常同意委員所提的我們怎麼樣去全面的去了解然後能夠杜絕這樣的一個他已經違法他本來就不應該當老師那我想這我們會積極來查跟地方處理中 |
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現在進行是嘛對不對去把它處理好那整個處理過程你給我一個很明確的處理的這個報告好不好第二更重要它是一個通案嘛來所以我們明確來做幾件事情第一個由教育部發函給各個補習班你要落實林義海這個條款請他們前面清查到底老師裡面有沒有性侵害或者是性騷的這是條文裡面明定的嘛對不對 |
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可以嗎 教育部發函給各部級班馬上做這件事情第二個裡面提到的就是要他的名冊要實名式嘛 對不對不允許他化名或者是假名要清查 好不好好 第三個還有一個大的問題其實啦 為什麼這次吹哨者會來檢舉 |
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他們就是要幾發查不到資料 只好找立法委員啊我們現在有一個大的問題就是他們如果上去 點上去 這個補習班可以看到老師的名字 對不對可是另外他如果是不恰當 不當的這個老師 你要讓他可以查得到啊對不對 你有建立一個系統嘛 就是不當的這個老師嘛 對不對可是一般人上不去嘛 是不是這樣 |
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一般人上不去嘛只有教育體系看得到嘛那這樣就找不到人啊所以是不是要把這兩個系統要整合好不好要讓它公開透明這是你當初修法一個重點嘛把這兩個系統我剛剛講了把這兩個系統整合起來這樣一般人他如果受到不平的待遇或者他要出來要檢舉他可以上這個網就會查得到說這個老師是不恰當的好不好 |
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我們現在馬上做這件事情 可以嗎好 謝謝我們不允許下一個悲劇再產生不要讓任何的狼屍在我們的補習班流竄好 謝謝謝謝張祺凱委員質詢 官員請回座我們接下來有請林月琴委員質詢 |