| IVOD_ID |
162049 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162049 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-3-36,19-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制、經濟委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
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司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制、經濟委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-28T13:30:17+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-28T13:35:53+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:36 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/75aba70f567c6f24128b1c6f20528568f05c7c77e5f132fda2a5d391d24d3b6035e519e7a80233805ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
沈發惠 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:30:17 - 13:35:53 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-28T13:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期司法及法制、經濟委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：併案審查（一）行政院函請審議、（二）委員王美惠等18人、（三）委員羅廷瑋等18人、（四）委員李坤城等16人、（五）委員吳秉叡等18人、（六）委員陳亭妃等16人、（七）委員蔡易餘等17人、（八）委員何欣純等22人及（九）委員吳思瑤等17人分別擬具「個人資料保護委員會組織法草案」案。
【第（八）案如經院會復議，則不予審查；第（九）案各黨團若未提出不復議同意書，則不予審查】
（星期三下午及星期四全天為一次會）） |
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主席請李主任請李主任委員午安李主任今天因為只有四分鐘所以我們本來有一些問題我想要要這個再精簡這個我們這個個人資料保護委員會最主要是因為因應這個111年憲判第13號認為就是說這個個人資料保護法的這個 |
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沒有獨立監督機制沒有建立相關法制所以要求我們在這個三年內宣誓三年內所以正好是今年的8月11宣誓是111年8月12所以在今年8月11之前理論上是要掛牌對不對 |
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就是我們朝這個方向前進也要看今天這個會不會順利通過啦那剛剛這個我特別也關心一個部分剛剛前面也有委員提到啦我們這個 |
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個人資料保護委員會目前在按照這個草案的第一條它是相當中央三級獨立機關那中央三級獨立機關目前有的好像像河安會像這個運安會這也是三級獨立機關那我看我們的草案的第三條這部分剛才這個有委員特別關心這部分我事實上也是特別關心這個部分我們在這個第三條裡面第一項規定就是說本會委員會置五到七人那這個 |
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更重要的是在第二項,第二項裡面有說主任委員、副主任委員由這個專任委員由行政院長任命,其餘委員由行政院院長就有關機關人員或學者專家分別聘任之。主任,我的有關機關是什麼意思?哪一些機關是有關機關,哪一些機關是無關機關呢? |
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目前現在因為這個的體制我們在其他的三級獨立機關也有這樣的用語有關機關好像沒有吧有有關機關那我們有關個資的部分你現在可以舉出哪個例子是無關機關嗎 |
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135.599 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].end |
154.125 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].text |
他應該是這個文字的意思是說院長可以針對比如說我們今天講的需要說科技的部分需要那個速發部這邊有一個人來擔任那可能就會變成這邊有關機關不過目前這部分只是一個這個時間的關係再來就是我們只設五到七人 |
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159.707 |
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169.678 |
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這個但是你按照這個第三條第四項本這個本會委員應具有的這個相關的學識經驗就包括個人資料保護法律資訊科技 |
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171.658 |
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194.638 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
這個資通安全、人權、公共行政、經濟、商業、管理、消費者保護光你們列出來的領域就有11個領域但是你們只剩5到7人所以不管你們怎麼聘除非你可以聘到一個人他一個人就有4、5種專長不然的話你5到7人連你們自己所說的涵蓋的領域都做不到啊你們自己這些領域就包含11個領域了但是你也只剩5到7人 |
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195.598 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
210.47 |
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是 跟委員報告這個第一個啦第二個這個我來看法治的規定你按照這個其實這個按照這個行政院的這個聘用各級機關聘用人員注意事項 |
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240.234 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
這是另外一個其實我看其他的委員會都5到11人5到11人其實按照法令你們也是可以設置5到11人三級的獨一機關可以設5到11人你們為什麼在草案上面把委員限縮到5到7人這部分是我個人有疑慮的這個我們等一下希望在逐條的時候你能夠回答這個問題因為這個你5到7人再加上一個主委一個副主委 |
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241.855 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
258.929 |
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你主委副主委以外再有一個委員出席三個人就可以開會了三個人開會裡面兩個人同意就可以通過了這個我個人是有疑慮的再來最後不好意思再佔用一點時間就是你們未來預計的編制人員是多少 |
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260.438 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
286.996 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
目前這部分還在跟人總做你們有沒有預計目前還沒有那你們目前現在有多少人目前籌備會目前籌備處他的組織員額是89然後我們的預算員額現在是53那我們現有人數是46現有人數46啦對但是你們這第10條你們剛剛就講這個約聘人員約聘人員你們可以以不超過50人不超過50不超過50人也就是說你們現在可以全約聘 |
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288.237 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
309.53 |
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如果以你們現在的規模46個人 你們還不到50個人你全部通通約聘 沒有半個公務人員 也符合這一條餒是 當我們現在說 這個 這個你們以50人為上限 這個在我看在這個機關現在所有的組織條裡面是幾乎是幾乎是我沒看過的啦齁大部分 你按照這個行政院及所屬機關聘用人員注意事項他說其緣而已 不超過 |
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311.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
332.278 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
該機關總預算人數百分之五為原則欸百分之五欸你們這個五十人齁我瞭解有一些立法律是有那個原額的上限好你們這個用五十人做上限齁但是你們你們這個跟百分之五為原則這個百分之五差太遠了啦差太遠了是好這個部分我想等一下我們在這個逐條的時候我們再來來談好再跟委員就講好謝謝審發會委員 |