| IVOD_ID |
162027 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162027 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第22次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
22 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第22次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-28T11:42:14+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-28T11:52:11+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:57 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/75aba70f567c6f24a563f78e75be59dad126c33bcaff1fd1a3426710e0a50eed065310c84e3566ad5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:42:14 - 11:52:11 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-28T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第22次全體委員會議（事由：處理114年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算解凍案。） |
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請 秘書長秘書長張維豪這邊你們刪了 砍了這個地方的補助款不只是違法亂七根本就是不顧人民的死活秘書長你應該知道嘛你現在砍掉是什麼預算這地方補助款是什麼事社會福利預算欸照顧最弱勢的長輩跟小孩 |
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教育地方的基礎建設有些甚至是救命錢你們怎麼砍得下手呢636的空白就不會發生這樣的事636為什麼是空白你剛才說636沒辦法砍沒辦法捅山這裡面有兩個很重要的原則我覺得你們一直在扭曲一直在造謠我先給你一個個案 |
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636自行調整這個在第一年來通商的預算要行政院自己調整每年都有嘛對不對第一個每年都有這是第一個原則第二個你們在喊636你們沒辦法處理我給你一個可以處理的案子同樣是民進黨執政2002年總統什麼人陳水北嘛行政議長 |
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張慶雄 同樣是民進黨執政那一年要行政院去自行調整要刪掉多少錢 658億比例的636更加多耶那一年有沒有調整好那一年解決啦為什麼陳水扁可以賴清德不行為什麼張慶雄可以處理 總統他不行你們根本就是違法亂計啊 |
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第一個每一年都有通商要你自行調整第二個你的金額也不是最大的現在更可惡的你們還去砍那個跟人民最有關係的上次我已經罵你們罵一頓了你們在砍勞工的退休金 |
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靠從罕見疾病健保的這個錢我說你們從政久了什麼心變硬變黑了是不是你那天我就跟你們講人民相關的錢一碼錢都不能砍你要砍那時候從你們特別費開始嘛先砍自己的啊特別費是零了對啊特別費我那時候就講你們人民的事情不重視你們砍人民的錢從你們開始嘛所以我那天我就主張特別費從總統一直到行政院長到部委首長錢砍嘛後來很客氣啊 |
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有些砍了全部 有些砍了六成而已你們做不完 憑什麼頂頭白皮拿這個錢去請客啊 送禮啊當然要砍啊 這一天更加生氣了那時候砍什麼勞退的這個錢現在弄到砍的是社福的預算 你們怎麼砍得下去啊你們有沒有天良 有沒有良心啊 |
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好啦,我已經很清楚跟你講了回去跟總統跟行政院長講以前的陳水扁可以做張建雄可以處理,憑什麼中泰跟賴清德處理不來那你說找不到錢,我幫你找錢你當過國發會主委國發基金農會要落鹹中,那你怎麼沒錢國發基金去投資聯合再生虧損多少八四了啦 |
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投資了如新牛仔褲虧損多少?12.38千載交通一來一去啦現在怎麼沒錢?更何況你今年還是歷年來卻薪高的將近三兆的預算欸你們很窮你們砍那個最弱勢的地方政府接下來我要跟你談違法亂紀在哪裡? |
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這是明明先過我剛剛已經跟你開宗明義講了以前有例子你們本來就要解決問題你們不解決結果現在砍了人民救命錢我們在審查預算的時候看下一張要你去通刪歷年來都這樣嘛不只今年你去翻以前要通刪的通案刪減的按鈕刪的是誰中央各機關及所屬 |
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你到底有沒有看到有地方補助這是第一個第二個地方補助款我們省的時候一毛錢也沒有刪啊第三個才化法三十條不能比上一年度減少你三個都違反了耶第四個也是很離譜的 |
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地方補助款你在前一年的八月份你就要通知他對不對你做國會主席要顧這必須定 背後對不對前一年八月你跟人家講各個縣市已經編好了經過各個地方議會通過了因為立法院刪掉了我們也沒辦法 |
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你為什麼一直在扣這個立法院刪掉立法院從法內傳一層面要刪的是中央政府跟手指的各機關更明確的補助款一毛錢沒有砍對不對第三個財務法還有那條線在那邊你怎麼會講是立法院砍的 |
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而且就不能砍這一筆嘛你要砍的我剛剛跟你講啦上次我跟你講砍特別費砍了嘛對不對今天我就更明確跟你講國發基金浪費的錢這是為什麼要砍這636第一個膨脹太多嘛 |
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歷史有史以來最高的 你比去年一下子膨脹了8.2%地市突破3兆耶 當然要砍啊而且浪費那麼多 避孕那麼多你應該是從你的國發基金浪費的地方去砍嘛你怎麼砍人民咧 砍地方政府咧國發基金的預算很少 沒有636億沒有636億 對啊 你現在最少也一兩百億可以做對不對浪費我剛剛已經練了100多億給你聽了吧 |
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我們需要稅出預算那636為什麼2002年張建雄可以找得到你們找不到我們也很無奈要回去找不是無奈你回答我從政的初衷是什麼你為什麼會給2500億給地方政府原先的預算就是要支持地方政府 |
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但是有了636這樣的空盤預算我們其他的已經已經砍掉了1400多億所以所以這個也是為什麼我講無奈的立法院很清楚當初為什麼要這個通案的刪減我告訴你有史以來都有2002年還比你多那為什麼要這樣刪第一個你膨脹太快第二個你有浪費跟弊案嘛我今天都很明確跟你講國發基金是其中一部分嘛 |
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2002年他也去找到錢嘛你有潛力可行聽聽我講你有潛力可行你要走正道啊你怎麼反而回過頭去砍那個罪不應該砍的不只是違法喔你現在摸著良心講立定你摸著良心講你現在砍的那個地方補助社福的預算 |
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你這樣怎麼對得起那些長輩 對得起那些小孩教育的費用耶 地方建設的基礎建設耶二十幾年來只有2002年跟今年發生而已表示這種狀況 它是不尋常的不尋常 那為什麼2002年可以解決為什麼你沒辦法解決 |
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你給主計長來報告你們提出的某些解決方案啊不是完全不行欸最重要是你浪費了你的弊案你要處理嘛現在這兩個大問題你自己沒有反省去解決真的要砍掉浪費跟弊案的錢第二個你去砍的最不應該砍的錢嘛不知道你摸著良心你砍的是人家 |
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攸關他們說長輩跟年輕人 社福的預算欸 教育的預算欸基礎建設的預算欸 你怎麼可以砍這筆預算咧我們也很無奈你無奈 你要去解決問題嘛 對不對回到初期 如果各地方政府有需要的時候 我們會協助各地方政府如果有需要 我們會協助 |
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學術 這個是在法定上應該給的錢嘛你們不應該砍就還給人家啊 什麼叫學術人家現在就告你們了嘛現在連蔣萬安都說提行政訴訟嘛 對不對立委都當場都檢舉了嘛我們克扣稅 克扣稅嘛 我們就追究你們責任好啦 秘書長 我做一個結論啦人在公門好休閒 今天包括主席總署 |
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你說租界主計長是新來的 為台南起來你們主計總署都這麼資深 那麼優雅的官員對不對你們去看看以前的個案怎麼處理的每一年的通商都可以處理 2002年可以處理你們主計長如果是新來的 你們有資深的 你們要幫他解決問題啊我做一個結論啦 回到初心 |
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回到初心 人在公門好修行不要違法亂紀 更不要對不起人民 謝謝 |