| IVOD_ID |
162017 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162017 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第22次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
22 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第22次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-28T10:15:36+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-28T10:21:03+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:27 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/75aba70f567c6f24b2233c9956f55b8bd126c33bcaff1fd1a3426710e0a50eedaaf2dd0d3751eaad5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張宏陸 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:15:36 - 10:21:03 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-28T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第22次全體委員會議（事由：處理114年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算解凍案。） |
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我先請拱秘書長還有我們的主計處處長好 請秘書長跟主計處處長我想先請問一下我們主計處的呂處長我們在編預算的裡面有法定支出 |
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是不是有法定支出這個名詞有有嘛那有法定預算嗎有法定預算都有嘛對不對所以剛剛大家一直在講什麼法定預算什麼什麼都不能動不能砍是這樣嗎 |
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法律支出跟法定預算是不一樣的法定預算是我們整個預算在行政院送到立法院叫預算案預算案審查通過就是我們院通過以後總統公佈以後叫法定預算法律支出就是我們在預算的編列的時候有一些編列的項目是有法律明定的 |
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那個叫法律義務支出比如說像人事費我們公務人員的那個人事費那所以法律義務支出呢我們行政組織總署也有一些定義但是呢就是說這個法律義務支出人事費法律上明定以外又編入預算所以是在規範它有一定的編制的標準跟編入預算是這個意思對啦所以我就請教啦應該有一個 |
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你的法定預算既然是法定預算了是已經公佈了吧對不對是已經公佈了那叫法定預算啊早上有很多人在講法定預算不能砍啊他公佈了啊他還有機會砍嗎 |
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法定預算就是措施性的法律就是總統公布的法律我的意思是法定預算就是這個預算案已經定案了嘛就是多少了嘛已經核定了嘛總統也公布了嘛在縣市可能縣市首長也都公布我今年要花多少嘛對不對這個是不是才叫做法定預算 |
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法定預算這個名詞是法律名詞預算法上的法律名詞對啦對是總統公佈以後的叫法定預算總統公佈以後那個法律名詞就叫做法定預算是不是是嘛對不對那我們在審預算的時候我們在審預算的時候應該有一些叫做法定的支出吧法定的義務支出法定的義務支出法律義務支出對嘛這個兩個是不同的概念吧不同 |
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不同嘛對啊所以我剛剛一直在想一直在聽我一直覺得每個人都這樣講讓我搞混了啊所以我要請教請教你啊所以我的觀念才是對的吧 |
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那是委員 是的是啦齁所以在那講幾步講幾載有的很多人甚至還有說要怎麼樣說什麼法定預算不能砍或什麼的我一直覺得很奇怪啦就我的認知法定預算就已經公布了當然你要砍你也沒得砍了啊除了追加減可不可以請我們行政院主計總處他主管這邊有這個 |
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不是啦就很清楚就是這樣了嘛對不對你除了追加減你才可能去動它了嘛不然你怎麼可能還會去動它我的意思就是說其實要來處理一個這個追加減或是我們今天要解凍 |
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其實不用有那麼多理由啦要合理的預算我們就支持嘛啊不合理的當然要被凍結要被那個我覺得這個就是一個最基本的原則我覺得是這樣吧祕書長是不是這樣蛤沒有你說啦是啦齁啊所以啊其實原則就是在這裡而已啊對不對齁我認為啦 |
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行政院今天我們來處理這個解凍案你們業務費什麼撐不下去的或什麼的你們要勇敢大聲的說出來啊你們如果不說誰知道啊對不對連剛剛大家在講那些都講的我跟你講全國人民齁沒有多少人聽得懂你們法定預算法定義務支出什麼什麼沒有什麼啦但你們現在就撐不下去了吧水電費繳不繳得出來 |
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不是 我叫你要大聲講 你們還都不講過去一直準決啦 但是還是有他的時間性還是撐不久吧對啦 我覺得啦該說的就說啦 該爭取的就爭取嘛我們今天應該聚焦在這裡啦其他的也不用去說太多啦我覺得啦 等一下我們在那個時候你們就大聲講嘛 好不好好 謝謝 謝謝 |
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好,謝謝 |