| IVOD_ID |
161990 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161990 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-28T10:49:46+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-28T11:00:39+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:53 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/75aba70f567c6f24fd0b544efb0c809f1b5ee1b3bf308d2e87f2bf784d93fc30ccd2a6181ac5a76e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳超明 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:49:46 - 11:00:39 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-28T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：審查：
一、本院委員謝衣鳯等16人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第七條條文修正草案」案。
二、本院委員郭國文等17人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第七條條文修正草案」案。(詢答)） |
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好謝謝現在請陳昌明委員做詢答陳昌明委員詢答結束休息五分鐘首先有請陳部長陳部長 |
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喂吼 部長啊 我下去整他雖然我是在野黨但是我都在推銷你們的三保義軍三保 農民健康保險 農民災害保險 農業保險現在再來就是農民退休儲金的保險 |
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但是我想這個問題會在上個會期跟你們爭吵了很久都沒有動好像給農民多一點會掛你們的馬會掛國家的骨頭這樣想看將來下個會期是預算的審查三四公兩立法院做了決議你們的不遵照執行沒有關係 |
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第二個 我跟委員報告喔 那個一月三方案來的喔 在苗栗喔這也都會很高興欸 我們的方案喔 他們真的覺得不錯欸我不知道要說高興在哪裡 但是我下去的時候 大家說我講兩十幾年都沒表情啊你做什麼在我委員說你來吃冰凍喔 你是瓜類 都會幫你洗奶 幫你剝茄 你就開心但是我周一的情形跟你不一樣嘛 |
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不是,我跟議員報告,我們看現在的產地價比去年現在從屏東開始開的都是快到一千一毫每百台幣,過去都差不多九百幾而已所以現在的產地價已經拉了快一百塊實在說啊,農民很可憐,他有時候去工廠打工來做這些農民很辛苦,我們一定會去照顧我現在跟你說,不然我們來打賭一下 |
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你隨時會改變您心中就是說我們在野黨決議過來你們不執行我怎麼可以聽到你們立法院的決議我不執行你這樣講誤會我 |
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我不會說在野黨提的我就不尊重我一定從專業的角度你講官話越來越選我一定從專業你都很誠實現在都會隨時再反應來 我跟你打賭一下 |
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下一個會期是預算明年是選舉年第一天你會碰到的問題工糧收購的問題絕對會遇到大家為了選票會給你開支票現在我給你一個information消息 |
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台南市在市長的辭陷就把農民偶像職業爭取權益列為第一個所以工糧收購你要去面對啦現在我們沒有關係啦反正決議也不做我們也講你們這樣對台灣自己國內的家暴你們都不執行偶然來跨跨跨跨大家再來比一次第二個 |
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老農今天勢必大家提起來現在八千塊如果提到一萬塊、一萬兩千塊你會知道剩下的人他就選票現在都會把你提出來到時候你要不要去面對這對台南發動的喔總統的故鄉喔市長候選人提出來就在逼狗喔這個第一的問題你要遇到 |
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那些流浪軍隊那些, |
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那個牌戶條款,牌戶條款說幾個年怎麼會說幾個變年現在通貨膨脹,一公尺大概一百萬這幾年條款兩百萬、三百萬、五百萬變成一千萬,比比皆是那些牢籠津貼,很多都要被取消掉 |
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我不是我也要做事啦不是我的財政是自然增加你也要去調整不然碰到這樣的問題很多你們要改變嗎我剛才說的排布條款的部分從工業部來支持所以我們有提配套的措施我不曉得你的肩膀有多用膝蓋有 |
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有多有利啊 告知民營力度的問題我跟你講今年預算大家開始吵了把疫情都全部翻出來因為你們當時都沒有做 |
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我是跟你講啦因為我是愛護你希望你繼續留部長我先把問題告訴你喔讓你有準備喔不然你會被修理得東倒西歪喔我先跟你講所以你那麼照顧麻煩你我一定要替你想那今天是談到我們農民的退休措施我聽你講譬如我假設 |
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我們基本工資如果是三萬塊一%是三百塊政府也吃三百塊你現在意思是10%就三千塊政府吃三千塊你意思是說如果剛剛兩千塊政府來搬變成四千塊這樣 |
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對不對 多了你減低農民的那個對對 但是我要聽你講一下我是這樣子齁 就是說我有一百塊去省啦農民搞一百本來政府也搞一百 兩百塊嘛那我們現在要減輕農民的負擔農民搞八十 你搞八十這樣類似這樣的比例啊比例還要再精算一下你就是農民的時候是不能比勞工多我問你思維要改變要是我責補償現在缺農很多人不去種田 |
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不要緊 我把他提高一來齁 你說只查到二十我們台灣農民覺得怎麼樣你用這個觀念去想大家在跟我說負擔多 他們都沒有想到未來我覺得要提高給他們沒有 委員我都認同齁就是我們希望農民的照顧更到位 |
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你退休金管大家就要來作信嘛不然現在年輕人怎麼作信青龍也是越來越臭的啊那我是這樣子講你說1.2政府交1.8如果我們老龍的退休金贏過 |
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那個勞工的退休金 大家來從農 大家來遮農藥我們政治農業就會好好發展啦你如果不來這樣去吸引民眾 觀念改變啦 我知道啦你們就是不行 因為勞工的人士比農民的人士還多啦我只對農民負責齁 我提出那個分析齁 |
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要找到一些可能未來會被挑戰的一些數據然後我們從這個數據裡面去找到一個因應之道我不是拿這個數據說我不同意我覺得我不是拿這個數據說我不同意因為那時有跟你們在講跟你們插好我們試做就1比1啊現在你的覆蓋率又不足表示不夠吸引力我就都把你找出來你們的試算表我都出來了 |
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我都幫你找出來 我會去那裡講 好吧局部的話 要有開始才有未來所以我現在建議你變成 |
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農民1.2,政府1.8,好,我大家不要來做農民啊,你也不用反而缺工,反正越種越好,觀念改變,農民不是弱勢團體,你要提升農民的位置,這一點你好好做,我相信會提升農民的位階,愛這些人,有人要載, |
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退休免煩惱就是委員現在兩個版本我們也會尊重也會去分析然後我們有一些想法剛才也跟委員做了溝通也會把他看看哪一個更好還有其他的必須要去協助讓他加入的我們會有一個完整的分析但是我現在坐下還沒有一個習慣那個勞農津貼可能你面對的要提升我告訴你生意是夠了我太了解了 |
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542.842 |
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第一排污的條款通貨膨脹 物價上升 臨時台北的漆黑貴重我們整個市場稍稀一點 某些條規500萬 這就都要調升這個排污條款 還有工作地價是自然形成的 |
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這籠包都沒有,這樣不行還有如果配合國家中大政策的時候也要去考慮不然我們也好好研究一下不是死板板的有時候有很多你們可以用法律權盡命令來跟說配合國家中大建設他們要負責勞保交錢給你們嘛你們如果不去想這樣 |
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567.762 |
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什麼國家政策 農民的去到產業裡面的光電怎麼會看到那麼漂亮的農地 要說下去已經過了我們不承認自己的同意 不檢討自己我告訴你 討論的人 調查的人可以說的好不好 不能說農民說的我沒辦法 |
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你如果要農地種田的話叫他們負責農保全部要強制在裡面這樣你就蓋掛了就覺得很困難有很多方式可以解決啊 |
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生意人創意是什麼條件怎麼樣兩方面互利最好你們只要想到那個這一點沒有改變好不好我會再向委員請教啦不要不要不要我不敢你把我在管理 把我兜兜補治 把我兜兜說我建議兜兜那個 把我完成我就行兩份物流 拜託還有農後漁港 你講的啊我是紳士 紳士啊 今天要幫忙 |
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這幾十年的免疫代表 我把這樣兩件完成啊我可以功成身退 好不好拜託一下好 謝謝我不是要跟你一起 你跟不上講話我們有提供規劃會 等規劃出來以後我們再來規劃我有有 都在準備了好 謝謝你啊 拜託了 拜託了好 謝謝 休息五分鐘 |