| IVOD_ID |
161961 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161961 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-23-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-28T09:15:35+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-28T09:26:48+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:13 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/75aba70f567c6f24e7a21842c5fb198c59eeaad68db6e97fb291a8f6a096732c2be3067e3bd88ef65ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
洪孟楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:15:35 - 09:26:48 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-28T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：一、處理113年度中央政府總預算附屬單位預算關於國家通訊傳播委員會主管預算凍結案計15案。
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算關於國家通訊傳播委員會預算凍結案計2案。
三、繼續審查(一)委員黃健豪等19人擬具「電信管理法第五條、第八條及第七十九條條文修正草案」案、(二)台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「電信管理法第五條及第八條之一條文修正草案」案、(三)委員鍾佳濱等21人擬具「電信管理法第五條、第九條及第七十九條條文修正草案」案、(四)台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「電信管理法第九條及第四十條條文修正草案」案及(五)委員陳俊宇等19人擬具「電信管理法第七十五條條文修正草案」案。
【本日會議僅針對開會事由二進行詢答，詢答後進行審查】
【5月28日及29日二天一次會】） |
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本席對於預算也好或是各機關單位都是只有一致要求預算當用則用 當審則審把錢花在刀口上 比什麼都加重要這你認同嗎 |
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認同好那可是很遺憾我覺得今天交通委員會我們審查NCC的這個解凍案報告在一開始的時候我們執政黨的委員居然也沒有在現場還剛剛還有不足三個人的一個情況還需要拜託我們在野黨委員回來坐在會場上才能夠來繼續下去我想不知道是說是連執政黨委員對NCC的預算都沒有那麼的重視嗎來代理主委你代理多久了 |
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從去年12月1號到現在12月1號到現在是那本席過去也一直在關心我們NCC的委員名單到底什麼時候會出來你有沒有看到行政院院長怎麼說先前有說會在4月底左右會提出是那今天是5月28號5月底又一個月過去了名單在哪邊 |
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有沒有找過你討論也沒有都沒有就一直讓你代理然後預算執政黨的委員也沒有那麼的重視來我們看一下報導 |
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4月29號那個時候告訴我們全國國人NCC的人事最快明天提出也就是4月30號提出結果卓龍泰說本週沒問題啦4月29號那一週本週沒問題結果咧過了一個月了不要說本週沒問題本月都提不出來來 再來重提NCC委員名單本週提出人選再來 |
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四月底NCC名單跳票左榮泰致歉 我不知道跟誰致歉因為這媒體引述的是你的照片人選說下週會公佈啊那到現在咧主委你的心情展現我們對於一個行政機關超然自主獨立的NCC的期待還是現在的行政院對於NCC不期不待沒有傷害 |
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要怎麼國人相信你們可以超然獨立自主一個名單告訴我們從去年的7月31號主委任內已經到齊了12月2號我們修法再一次通過其實我們那時候修法也不是也不是 |
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那個時候修法才應該要這樣遵守照理講其實我們已經講了當時的修法就是NCC委員不得再延任但是行政部門刻意鑽橋門鑽漏洞好 12月2號把你漏洞給補齊我們當時也講只要你提出專業合格的人選可受公眾公平送進來馬上交通委員會審查 |
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有排案嗎 沒有排案 因為連送進來都沒有送進來 我們怎麼審查那現在4月底跳票 下週確定到現在5月底了 也沒看到所以我想你今天過來 除了這個解凍案以外應該也清楚明白 我們委員也會關心這件事情吧 |
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結果過去這一個多月行政院長也沒有找你討論也沒有問說NCC現在運作到底良不良善你現在只有三位委員了你說不足法定人數很多重大的決策沒有辦法做包括你今天的解凍報告裡面決議不得授權事項很多的部分這一些都是需要有法定夠足額的委員才能夠執行才能夠推動是吧是 |
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通訊傳播監理政策制定定義審議這麼重要重要結果現在因為行政院長沒有提人選不能做通訊傳播重要計畫方案審議考核這麼重要重要但因為現在行政院長沒提人選所以不能做網際網路傳播政策制定及審議這麼重要重要行政院長沒提人選所以不能做總共十大項都那麼重要的議題你們自己今天的解凍報告列出來 |
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都不能做 為什麼就是因為四月跳票啊主委 代理主委國人要無奈還是你要無奈還是我們兩個都要無奈因為行政院長擺爛 |
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我相信大家都期待NCC能夠正常運作是啊本席比您更期待 為什麼因為還有很多事情需要NCC需要我們所謂超然獨立自主的機關來協助台灣社會不能空轉 |
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不能讓詐騙集團橫行不能讓相關的應該被管理被管制或者是協助輔導的機制停擺但現在NCC停擺是誰的問題是人選沒有出來的問題人選沒有出來的問題是因為名單跳票名單跳票是因為行政院長沒有送 |
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來我請教NCC要空轉多久大家不知道但是之前有講說6月底以前會有37家的不管是有限無限未廣事業執照陸續到期那現在5月底了有幾家到期了上半年是37家會到期下半年是50家我知道啊但我是說像現在因為有一些是陸續到期嘛那現在有幾家到期了 |
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應該接近應該30左右30家到齊了對 左右之前有講說如果是有線電視的話還有臨時執照的制度可以來使用但無線電視或者是未廣頻道的話是沒有辦法用臨時執照的所以有可能要跳頻因應或者是因為無法換照而無法正常播出那現在這30家裡面 |
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消費者的權利視聽大眾的權益怎麼保障有限電視部分我們先前有處理過就是因為剛好法律上的會有一個剛好有協助的機制像有限電視的基本頻道要下架必須要經過委員會審議那現在委員會沒辦法組成所以他也沒辦法進行下架 |
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所以要換帳沒有辦法換要下架也沒有辦法下你這樣等於是宣告跟所有的頻道業者也宣告說現在NCC就是無人看管時代大空窗時代大航海時代大擺爛時代大家要做任何事情反正現在因為人數不夠因為行政院長沒有提人選所以連下架也沒辦法下架大家來吧 |
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擺爛吧我們是請業者繼續保障聽眾的權益來共度難關代理書委 |
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是我想今天我抱著一個每一次質詢的時候我都用專業審查認真監督的立場準備很多資料你的解凍報告我也一無一失的看我還是強調預算花在刀口上我們沒有不解凍的理由但是你今天列出來這十大點 |
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都是清楚明白告訴國人當NCC的名單不足當人員不足的時候是沒有辦法正常運行的而人員不足或者是說現在連名單都提不出來如果是因為所謂的陰謀論就是現在所謂的民進黨政府從上到下就是要等七月底罷免的投票罷免投票投完之後再來講所以人選就是不願意出來所以一片再一片三片四片 |
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4月說提不出來 說本週提不出來 說本月底提不出來到現在有可能5月也不會再提那然後就讓你代理主委 反正來這邊幾個委員輪番砲轟然後就這樣傳過水無痕那整個NCC停擺 整個我們有限無限未廣停擺 |
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我們要的是這樣的社會嗎我們要的是這樣子的一個獨立自主超然的機關嗎所有NCC的同仁會不會覺得這樣抬不起頭啊行政院長這樣子對待你們連四位人選都不願意提出來立法院該監督該協助要審查的我們一定善盡審查的責任但是如果說連名單都提不出來然後主委 |
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有沒有勇氣想要跟行政院長也講一聲停擺了同仁很辛苦名單呢能不能拜託幫我們社會大眾 閱聽大眾來跟行政院長講一聲有沒有這個勇氣實際適當有必要時我會跟院長報告但是相信資訊非常的透明流通已經晚了半年了還不算有必要 |
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不是 先前他們你自己提出來報告這十大項都不能做還不算有必要那部分是上委員會沒辦法上委員會但上委員會前的程序我們都如實一起來進行就像跑100公尺 我們都跑到90公尺然後不充現然後看著別人一直充現充現就違法了充現就違法 你也知道誰讓你違法 行政院長 |
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來 最後啦 再回來 上一頁主委 代理主委 是我鄭重的要求你應該要有風骨 也要有責任約行政院長 直接跟行政院長報告你的名單在哪裡你講的人選下週公佈 到現在呢過了幾個下週一週 兩週 三週 四週 過了四個下週沒有公佈就沒有公佈要政治算計 |
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要搞什麼大罷免不要拿NCC來開玩笑NCC有限無限未廣等相關的視聽大眾的權益不是讓你行政部門開玩笑的不是讓你民進黨政府拿來當罷免的籌碼的不是讓你們胡作非為的可以嗎 |