| IVOD_ID |
161918 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161918 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-26-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-26T10:55:19+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-26T11:04:20+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:01 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/120d1ede7233a40a7e032a5baf0fa657330f39aabc08752512766cb13dea9389d5025eb6a0fa74945ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
劉建國 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:55:19 - 11:04:20 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-26T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：處理114年度中央政府總預算決議有關環境部主管預算凍結報告案142案(含報告事項134案及討論事項8案)。） |
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趙偉來發言,劉建國趙偉請好,謝謝主席,來有請部長來,你再請一下嚴署長好,有請嚴署長好,趙偉好,剛剛王委員跟我勵盲了那個藏野蛙,藏野蛙怎麼會一國三制 |
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有的電子廠體育奧比,有的電子廠體育動作是垃圾的,我想這不是跟基隆台北市對的對的問題,台北市跟同盟也對的對的問題,同盟市跟省財省也對的對的問題,同盟市也有人去跟台東上班,上班所也對,也對台東去同盟。 |
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你台中有一個處理方針,你台北有一個處理方針,你台東有一個處理方針,我們中央環境部沒辦法跟一個政府給我統一一個規範,它到底是本事,到底是要拿去堆肥,還是要拿去吃,當然外國人要吃也沒意見,吃土也不是你環境部管的,是FDA管的,但是我們有一個政府給我的處理方針, |
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我們人均沒多少通他的要求到幾分指引 指引難道只是做參考之用沒有道理骨頭大小因為後端處理的這個機械可能有一些問題所以也不盡其難的同一個標準那那就奇怪了 |
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垃圾不落地 資源回收 資源的整個分類整個制定的政策的最高主管機關不是在環境部嗎環境部一旦制定完之後當然你地方政府就要有所遵循啊我們台灣是一個多數國家 一個小小的多數國家而已哪有一個辣雞分類主管維修 一個葬禮會有辦法說中央是這樣訂啦從那給你去做參考 因為你有記憶的問題 所以 |
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所以有的奧比,所以有的價位,所以有的動作本首那些生命力大家怎麼好到這樣?沒有輸掉?不對吧? |
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你如果說今天高雷死了,中央有中央政策,中央政府在台灣現在就分比較多,高雷他自己管治,死後就可以提款,你要再提一塊,那我們不用作動嘛,那我們也不用訂標準嘛,對不對?但是很多社會福利,你中央訂了相關的法律訂完之後,你只要有一些進來進去,你抵觸到既有的社福來講,他是可以折衣折糕折衣去做處理嘛, |
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他還是要幫你抵觸咧但是怎麼會是分裂資源回收一個帳那裡可以一國獨自這我覺得不夠順利順利才可以做人靠的因為我們這是現場轉播的 |
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好,謝謝委員指導,以藏瓦為例,有位館長認為它是比較長纖,它的破碎如果可以破碎得比較細,它就可以早去堆肥,如果它沒有辦法破碎得那麼細的話,它就可能會用作本所去處理。 |
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阿不可這個委員的意見我們會參考是不是請大家再來檢討像類似骨頭或者是重業這種東西大家有沒有同意的一個做法這個我想我們可以來做討論不是因為我剛剛聽完委員的這個詮詢基本上應該是這麼講就是說我在可能我工作是在基隆那我就是要住在台北 |
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但是我可能遇到中餐可能遇到晚餐我這樣的一個分類就只有一個隔壁的縣市就不一樣這不對啦這絕對不對我覺得環境部應該負起這個責任該怎麼處理就怎麼處理該怎麼去補強就怎麼去補強應該有一套統一的標準嘛不然身在一個島嶼的國家中華民國的一個國民 |
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一個戰略的分類要因為不同縣市然後做不同的處置不同的處理跟應變這絕對不是政府為政之道好不好委員這個我們來檢討就是說看如何整合能夠有一個統一的方法我們來努力好 謝謝部長 謝謝署長一個月可以吧 |
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可以 好 謝謝好這剛才是 抱歉啦 題材啦不是姿勢啦 別誤會我現在要去勤奮補充啦兩年前在這個地方嘛 之前我們補充都希望把這個綠營人才培訓培育課程將中低收跟還有深藏 |
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全額做這樣一個補助那我很很很很很高興也很肯定部長可以這樣的積極作為馬上在這個21號上週就已經宣布綠營人才這個培育的課程納入中低收入戶及身上全額補助比較比較低收入的標準做全額的補助啦我再強調一次所以這邊我再度跟 |
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部長表達最高的一個謝意跟敬意謝謝委員的指正這個讓全國的這些中低收入還有這些身上朋友看到一個曙光也看到這個事情的這樣的一個大家可以關注的一個亮點那我相信未來這個報表的人數會因為這樣子會有更好的一個成長的比例因為我們也想說可能這短短的一兩年或是兩三年綠領人才 |
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就會追過所謂的AI這個人才的這樣的一個需求跟這個標準值所以我在這邊還是再度跟部長做一下的肯定不過勞工這一塊好像到現在還沒有消息 |
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報告委員因為我跟洪部長有交換過兩次的意見那因為最主要是說他那邊的勞工跟我們在大學訓練的這個方式跟形態、樣態不一樣所以我們還在協調所以在委員再給我們一點點時間我們會討出一個方案那天在這裡問岸柏中岸柏中一直跟我說有一點意有所指好像環境部的問題 |
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因為他們的勞工通常跟我們這個大學裡面受訓的樣態學生那個情境是不大一樣的他有特別提醒我這一點啊他們那邊那個他們每個分署等於是說等於是有他的這個樣態所以他們是希望我們去他們那邊上課啦所以這個還在協調當中 |
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不是說有問題啦,我不是說你一定會去滾,是紅布丁的問題啦紅布丁也沒有在滾你啦,不會燒滾啦如果如果真的有,真的買了就無法解決,沒辦法請主席請你去喝咖啡這樣可以嗎?因為現在這都是,整體要怎麼協助勞工嘛,跟社會勞工嘛我想這也是要給布丁多一點面積的啦,好不好,就有這個部分嘛啊不知道這樣,我還不知道布丁是不是對及布 |
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因為在大學的通識課程包括在高中生的環境的課程裡面其實都應該可以來討論如果把它用最快的速度把它納入對 包括我們那個下學等於下半年會針對高中生來推動啦這個教育部也同意了會跟我們合作高中生有OK 那就很棒了因為我們應該是可以邁向 |
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全民綠領這樣的一個目標來打拚嘛所以可能各個階層所以現在反正現在政府已經有溝通了下個會期就可以來實施那最好不過了不過針對勞工還有失業勞工我還是希望部長可以做盡快的一個處理的方式啦好不好應該說一星期就改過來嘛好不好 |
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因為那個他們我們也開過會啦我們要請我們院長稍微講一下跟委員報告一下因為他們因為他們勞工的課程有補貼還有一個他們的時數很晚因為我們只有48小時是針對大學那個教材都是針對大學那個層級在安排 |
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所以現在要用事業勞工來做這個要去另外設計,不然勞工來上課說教材這樣沒那麼大額,那也是另外一個問題,所以我們不要討論怎麼操作模式比較好所以我們要討論不是兩個部隊的問題,是你的問題是不是,我們要討論這個操作模式不,我一定要向鄉長找出這個地點,地點不能說經營不是問題 |
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他們已經經常有相關 看要不要去做一些調整而已所以這應該是 應該不是騙錢的問題應該是看要不要大家有一個共識我再過一天來把這個勞工跟社會勞工可以拿進去這個環境來做處理我相信這是一件很重要的事情 也很需要我今天來做一件事 好不好好 我們改天來處理啦好啊 好啊 再過一星期 也不是 也不是現在一直加幣啦好 好 好 好 謝謝好 謝謝部長 謝謝主席 |
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好 謝謝劉委員的質詢謝謝部長的答詢 |