| IVOD_ID |
161813 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161813 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
14 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-22T11:04:27+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-22T11:17:16+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:49 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/1976c9e92d55c2f98b8362ccc628d672c1afe2edc2e0cc67b229dfd5e6d71d205b23da5efbb1608e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳亭妃 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:04:27 - 11:17:16 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第14次全體委員會議（事由：一、處理或審查114年度中央政府總預算有關經濟部及所屬主管預算凍結案等39案。
二、處理或審查114年度中央政府總預算有關國家發展委員會及所屬主管預算凍結案等21案。
三、繼續審查：
（一）行政院函請審議「個人資料保護法部分條文修正草案」案。
（二）本院委員王美惠等18人擬具「個人資料保護法部分條文修正草案」案。
（三）本院委員羅廷瑋等17人擬具「個人資料保護法部分條文修正草案」案。
（四）本院委員李坤城等16人擬具「個人資料保護法部分條文修正草案」案。
（五）本院委員郭昱晴等19人擬具「個人資料保護法部分條文修正草案」案。
（六）本院委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「個人資料保護法第十二條、第二十七條及第四十八條條文修正草案」案。
（七）本院委員蔡易餘等18人擬具「個人資料保護法部分條文修正草案」案。
（第六案及第七案如未接獲議事處來函則不予審查。）） |
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我們請經濟部跟國發會好經濟部跟國發會謝謝 |
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委員好部長好部長我想讓你看一個資料這是我們113年度預算的主決議的提案就是我們在預算當中當時候的主決議非常清楚由我們的立法院經濟委員會通過當時候有做了這個決議說在尚未完成前兩項的要求前能源署不得核發申罷的 |
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電業執照 |
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我先不說 申辦一期的回饋金目前到底怎麼了先不要管這個了要談到這個可能又會氣很多但是我先了解 |
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能源署的部分你們常在說一起的回饋金基本上是依照一起還平這個要我們的環境部好環境部的問題我不問你我現在只有問我們能源署的部分能源署在尚未完成前兩項的要求點不得核發電業執照第一項 |
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第一項是什麼我們先看一下第一項就是要求回饋金與電協金應秉持促進電力發展營運提升發電輸電及偏電設施周邊地區發展及居民福祉為目的有關 |
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申辦一期回饋金為依書面規定撥付事宜請能源署依電協經管理辦法規定要求申辦電廠撥補108年至112年電協經的部分113年以後的電協經也要依電協經管理辦法規定辦理這是一期的部分那請問這要求有到位了嗎 |
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邦委員我請能源署來回答報告那個森霸他並沒有規定來依規定來繳交這個電協金那所以我們已經有通知他要一線來繳交那麼他的金額是在委員我們就算過大概3億7千萬那這是一第二因為他沒有照規定那我們另外也額外有罰款100萬 |
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那當然森巴目前他是不符這一個我們的處分那正在跟我們溯院當中那麼跟委員報告就是說這個我們未來會依這個溯院的決定來要求他如果他還是不繳的話我們依我們DNA法的規定會持續來加重處罰也就是說我們會一百萬、兩百萬、三百萬這樣子一直去處罰 署長這個是一起喔 |
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二期你們現在已經過了對不對他都沒有達到我們的要求你就過了已經違反了我們的主決議號二期的部分是明年回饋金是明年對不對他以前年度他的整個獲益所得來計算他的一個回饋金所以二期回饋金都還沒有講到喔 |
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還沒有繳 對不對 要明年喔所以現在只能講一期 申辦一期的回饋金申辦一期回饋金很清楚 我們已經有我們的電業法之後 我們都有要求到底要怎麼繳交 它從來沒繳交過 |
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從來沒繳交過所以3.7億我要再次強調這是一期我覺得不要把他搞亂一期3.7億二期你們現在他一期都還沒繳進來你們又核准他了這就是我要講的你們已經違反主決議了在第二個部分第二個要求382期現在 |
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已經通過了跟我們當時候主角不一樣 主角一直說他在試運轉喔好他在試運轉的部分已經造成民眾對安全的擔憂 因為他是二期的管線沿用一期的管線我們也只有要求你要要求申辦應該提出試運轉檢測資料 這個要提出沒有問題我們也要求你要把未來 |
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過去沒有問題不代表未來沒有問題未來他如何公正公平公開能夠讓大家知道他的公共安全管線的資料就這個部分他也做不到他也做不到 |
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是 這樣分成兩個部分就是他的管線安全那麼他有提供資料那也請第三方公證機構來看過這是過去嗎 我現在沒有跟你講過去那他現在委員關心的是說那他未來40年是不是能夠也保證安全 |
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那这一部分就是说我们是靠未来的监测机制好这个监测机制在哪里吗我只要求说你应该让地方能够参与让地方知道我的管线有没有问题他经过永康新市新化到山上这路径多长啊这是应该的这是人民的权益而且申办 |
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他的所有管線他的圖資都不完整都不完整這20年前的資料圖資都不完整你要叫人民怎麼信心能夠相信他的管線沒有問題當然你們現在有學者專家願意被他背書可是請問我人民總有權去要求未來吧 |
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是這是應該的那所以我們有叫這個森巴他要把他的這個現在的資料放在網站上他有放在網站上那未來他會持續做監測你監測系統都不在了請問這些網站都是吃一些資料而已你應該把你的網站安全的監測在哪裡在永康設一點新市設一點 |
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然後山上設一點 新化設一點那麼所有的李明 民眾 就得知道這些資料就是從這邊跑出來的是應該是這樣做啊 並沒有欸你們都完全 申辦怎麼講 你們就怎麼做 |
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沒有啦 我們有第三方 剛才報告第三方的認證機構不是第三方認證機構 第三方認證是之前不代表未來 未來要公開透明民眾只是要求這個樣子有很困難嗎沒有 這是應該做的是啊 可是你們並沒有要求他啊你們還是讓他過啦 |
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因為他未來的監測好 你多久 多久要把這些監測在哪裡永康設一點 新市設一點 新化設一點 山上設一點你把它很清楚透明我們的監測系統在哪裡然後公開在網站當中就是這些監測的單位監測的地方所發出來的資料 |
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這樣不是就很好了嗎那我們的里長都可以來看地方議員也可以來看那是不是安全上彼此就有一些約束力是不是如此委員 這個要求是合理的那所以我們有要求他未來要把所有的監測資料包括巡檢的資料要PO在網站上 |
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署長我要點 永康設在哪裡 新市設在哪裡 新化設在哪裡你沒有這些監測點 請問你這些資料怎麼跑出來的誰知道是 他有這些監測點 那我可以提供給你監測點在哪裡 多久要給我們 讓所有的民眾來知道我的監測點在哪裡 |
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可以 我們大概一禮拜我們提供這個資料就是他的監測點包括他未來的監測機制是什麼那他要定期把他監測的結果來告訴民眾一個禮拜喔我們會要求他來做 沒問題 |
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地下管線 署長地下管線不能開玩笑啦是是他只要一個氣爆 整個都沒了整個都沒了 署長一個禮拜喔我等你給我這些監測的地方然後他的監測系統怎麼公開透明 |
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這個部分再拜託然後3.7億一期的回饋金到底什麼時候要入到我們市庫市庫喔 因為這回饋金是給地方的對不對 要給我們市庫 你要追啊沒錯 申辦有律師團啊哪知道我們又過輸啦 我跟你說我們八包起來放啦 |
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我們有信心才會做這樣的處罰所以要多久趕快入我們的事庫這個也要給我們一個時間表這個部分很重要我們再拜託我們的國發會我們國發會 |
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我們要拜託我們當時候經濟委員會下去考察所有唐鐵五分車狼帶創生計畫對不對副主委我要拜託你要怎麼樣請台唐市政府哪一個單位趕快提出這個創生計畫這個狼帶創生太美了 |
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如果它真的可以完成的話我相信這個部分才是我們西北能夠對這個企業變成是我們的期待跟願望的一個機會人家說對我們的後面變成前途好 所以這個部分多久我們這個副主委是這個唐鐵五分車人大創新計畫多久 |
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我們要跟地方協調哪個單位要出來台堂還有市府到底要是從文化部文化局或是我們經發局來提出這個部分多久要把它溝通出來我想我針對委員提這個案子我們會跟市政府還有中央的話大概是經濟部的相關的機關我們來討論一下再給委員回覆一個月好不好 |
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我們下個禮拜會再從市政府跟我們台堂去針對這幾個問題我們有提出幾個問題就是包括它的斷點要怎麼找替代道路還有我們所有謝嚴台的整個文化部的一個登錄還有相關的這個設置平交道要怎麼連接的部分還有我們所有地方的這些階段的部分 |
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其實不是問題啦我們都有去看都不是問題只是這小問題我們要怎麼約市府跟台黨把它做一個串聯那但是這個創生計畫狼帶創生計畫一個月提出來看哪一個單位要主責趕快提出來我們是不是先開會先調完我們再給委員答覆好謝謝 |
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好謝謝陳秦輝 |