| IVOD_ID |
161810 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161810 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
21 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-22T10:39:37+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-22T10:47:56+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:19 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/1976c9e92d55c2f9c49a08c7f008f57b018167f9c4d828f8b229dfd5e6d71d20a0cd956ccde8f9615ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李柏毅 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:39:37 - 10:47:56 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請原住民族委員會主任委員率同所屬及財團法人原住民族文化事業基金會董事長與財團法人原住民族語言研究發展基金會董事長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。二、處理114年度中央政府總預算案有關原住民族委員會及所屬預算解凍案。三、審查「原住民族基本法」修正草案等12案：(一)審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具「原住民族基本法增訂第二條之二條文草案」案。(二)審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等17人擬具「原住民族基本法第二十一條條文修正草案」案。(三)審查委員高金素梅等21人擬具「原住民族基本法部分條文修正草案」案。(四)審查委員黃仁等30人擬具「原住民族基本法第十九條條文修正草案」案。(五)審查委員黃仁等26人擬具「原住民族基本法第十五條條文修正草案」案。(六)審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等18人擬具「原住民族基本法增訂第六條之一條文草案」案。(七)審查委員黃仁等20人擬具「原住民族基本法增訂第二十八條之一條文草案」案。(八)審查委員黃仁等22人擬具「原住民族基本法第十條條文修正草案」案。(九)審查委員黃仁等21人擬具「原住民族基本法第六條條文修正草案」案。(十)審查委員高金素梅等20人擬具「原住民族基本法第十八條條文修正草案」案。(十一)審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等17人擬具「原住民族基本法第十八條條文修正草案」案。(十二)審查委員盧縣一等18人擬具「原住民族基本法部分條文修正草案」案。【第一案至第三案合併詢答；第三案僅詢答，另定期處理】） |
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整個原民會在我們內政委員會預算的狀況算是不錯的喔 |
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整個內政委員會給予原民會很大很大的支持因為被刪的預算其實不多而且在去年度包含去年度大家討論最多的建法補償增加的預算的部分到達了7億左右行政院現在也都跟原民會這邊也如期跟主計總署這邊都如期可以編出來了那也如期可以發放了那但是 |
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去年度還是有一些相關園民會的這些業務有被刪減業務被刪減的部分我講的是原住民民主委員、聘用委員改成無給職這一部分這一部分影響到多少委員目前為止執行的狀況我想要請教主委的是有沒有委員因為這樣辭職了 |
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我們都已經 他們全部都辭職了全部都辭職有的已經是大概一半以上都有別的工作了要去必須要去找別的工作了嘛所以沒有辦法再為原民做這些相關的這些原本他在宣導服務等等這些那這些業務怎麼辦這些業務就一樣回歸到我們這個各業務單位喔比如說所以你就是要叫公務員去做這些事情了嗎 |
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對就是當然我們的公務人員就會所以是族人領袖或者是這些族人的相關他們過去習慣或者是過去大家遵從這些領袖他可能就沒有這些業務費用可以使用他就辭職了是16個都辭了嗎對非常遺憾那接下來原民會接下來還會再徵聘委員還是有其他的救濟方式嗎 |
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我們也尊重大議員的決議希望就是說我們在這個因為少了這些人就少了很多的工作量就少很多那我們希望禁用就是說這個 |
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再禁用公務員 再多禁用公務員來承接這些工作我們也不一樣啊 這不一樣的訓練啊像我們民意代表我們選出來或者是當然不一定完全套用在民意代表身上啦跟經過國家考試的公務員他的訓練跟他主要的任務其實是完全不一樣的這大家都知道這沒有辦法取代的嘛那還是原民會這邊還是要去思考其他的救濟方式啊 |
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他們因為這幾個委員他們是現在是沒有薪水了就是無極職了對啊就辭光了對但是就是有一些的這個評鑑或者是有一些的這個其中審查考核等等也不 |
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縱然說是不會全部都還要用他們來去做我們還是需要他們來做一些考核評審等等的沒有錯這我了解只是說原本這些委員在做的這些業務不見了我覺得原民會還是要找一些救濟的方式來來補足原本的這些我們原本可以做的這些業務嘛那另外一個比較重要的議題就是在內政委員會今年度處理的節日跟紀念日的問題針對 |
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原住民族的碎石祭可以給予三天假的問題在這邊我還是必須要既然這個已經通過了我還是必須要從補救的角度來想當然我們支持說原住民族他在碎石祭的時候可以保有他的這些文化原住民族必須要回去參加 |
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那三天這個就是社會討論但是也已經通過了但是事實上他在職場上即將會碰到的問題也就是說有些雇主們 |
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他們會因為這樣第一個寧願繳罰金寧願繳貸金少禁用原住民族這個問題我們不要再罵雇主了他有他的算法但是我們還是要想怎麼樣來保護我們這些原住民族的這些就業的機會嗎第二個如果他真的在就業上遇到困難的話怎麼樣加強 |
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我們剛剛有講到原住民族的這些就業服務站就業服務員跟勞動部怎麼樣去協助這一些我們族人的這些工作機會我覺得這是我們即將遇到的問題我們這些就業服務員對這些相關的這些跟勞動部的這些聯繫的實際的狀況我覺得原民會要馬上來做這些盤點 |
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主委你可不可以我們會馬上就是這10個基點還有要我們的就業服務員主動來協助其實我們的75個就業服務員原住民的就業服務員會協助將來我們這些如果遇到這樣的狀況提供法律的諮詢你認為會遇到什麼狀況比如說像僱主有可能因為我那個原住民有三天我可能就不大禁用 |
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但是未來我們會有相關的配套措施我們也會做一個盤點就是我們每年的原住民就業狀況調查當中會針對這些有沒有因為是禁用這個三天就不禁用原住民的這個我們會列入我們每年的調查那你有沒有這個相關的這些產業它其實它有繳交貸金的我建議你現在有資料嘛這一些就要開始控管了如果說明年度或今年度就開始發生這些繳交貸金的變多了 |
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那就是代表出問題了嘛那就要趕快來做這些社會的溝通剛剛召委也有講到看是胡蘿蔔還是棒子那我們也支持用棒子啊但是事實上這是立法之後才發生的問題啦所以原民會身為主管機關保護原住民相關的這些權益等等的齁我覺得原民會要加緊注意這些內容是我們會好謝謝主委一共齁 |
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今年度的預算一共122億那比去年度增加大概12億其中7億是進法補償那裡面還有5億那裡面還有5億的部分到今天即將要解凍的內容裡面那包括比較大的項目的裡面有原住民族教育推展那有原住民族教育推展裡面的兩項就高達了快1億6的經費 |
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那我希望原民會等一下還是可以盡力說服當初凍結預算的委員讓原民會相關的這些預算可以很順利的來推動那目前包含你的業務費現在被凍結 |
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一共被凍結超過五億來那還有這個族與教會這個一億一千萬那希望主委這一些相關的說法都可以趕快的獲得委員會的來的支持在這邊我先表達會對原民會的這些被凍結的預算支持趕快的來解凍但是我還是要表達對於南島民族論壇推動經費接近兩千萬全部被刪除切斷了台灣原住民跟 |
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台灣原住民族跟整個南島的這些互動我覺得這是非常可惜啦那還是希望原民會這邊跟整個南島語系原住民這邊還是保持密切的聯繫活動那必要的時候還是請院長來協助看我們有沒有辦法來繼續來跟其他這些南島語系的這些原住民國家這就是外交的部分來保持一定的互動是好要跟院長爭取會會會好謝謝謝謝 |