| IVOD_ID |
161779 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161779 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-36-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
17 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-21T15:11:24+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-21T15:21:39+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:15 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e381da0d479eb7db324603a6dd4f5258e11a54d16b4ae569f45a94dd28b54b38a4fe3771cb6bf56e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
莊瑞雄 |
| 委員發言時間 |
15:11:24 - 15:21:39 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第17次全體委員會議（事由：一、處理114年度中央政府總預算關於總統府預算凍結項目共5案。
二、處理114年度中央政府總預算關於國家安全會議預算凍結項目共4案。
【5月19日及21日兩天一次會】） |
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來 謝謝主席 遵照主席的命令那是你講的我要簡單問一下 兩位副秘書長兩位副秘書長好我剛才看吳宗憲招委這樣 愛愛求 堅固卑卑我們都 求都叫不來你覺得你很不民主 你也不民主我們這四萬萬有誰想漏氣你當作你叫不來 人家有給你簽名的 |
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奇怪的喔,他都在叫不是在叫什麼總統府,總統府潘秘書長有給你請假嘛,對不對,官會沒來嘛,有請假嗎?人家也有給你請假,還算不錯,我真的羨慕死你了,我跟你講,昨晚來連來都不來,連給我請個假,打個電話都沒有,不要哀啦,我們兩個苦難兄弟啦 |
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昨天是520 就是說總統的就職一週年這一年看起來也是風風雨雨 那我要就教兩位了就是說其實我大家都看到說朝野是攻防激烈 當然也是對立 非常的嚴重但是這影響到的就是一些法案的一個通過 還有預算的一個凍結 |
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那大選過後到現在第一任的行政團隊算是走得也蠻辛苦啦 蠻辛苦那我先詢問一下 我們複密這一年來 你有什麼樣的感想 你覺得整個政體怎麼樣還可以讓整個政府更精進的地方 |
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我想這個部分還是要多聽委員專業的委員的想法跟意見但是我覺得在這一年的時間以來我認為國際社會越來越喜歡台灣也更重視台灣那在此時此刻我認為朝野的團結非常的重要一起讓在變動的國際環境當中走一個更穩定更安定而且更前瞻的路謝謝委員的垂詢 |
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你這個回答的定義說對外宣示而已,我是在說你看到應該檢討的地方不是說什麼更團結,本來每一個國家裡面要更團結我說你都就你的觀察,你覺得我們政府哪些地方該精進你現在是叫在野黨要精進,我是說我們自己政府要怎麼精進我相信這也是要聽委員的,委員有什麼想法,我記錄起來,我繼續核實 |
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這是不錯的 有進步了 感謝 感謝你副院長 你的看法是怎樣看法跟志偉 副院看法一樣厲害啦 你們兩個今天來要討錢而已啦但也很好 也很好那昨天啦 我看大家也都很清楚啦立法院就通過這個公投案 就核三這個部分我不曉得兩位喔 有沒有就這個議題裡面啦 |
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總統府裡面有沒有任何的一個討論我看總統府也去發表了一些看法對於整個河山到底要不要去做研議提到的是說 河安無虞 河廢料有解 社會上有共識那這當然是一個基本前提我們要問的就是說 你們對這個你們總統府有去討論到嗎 還是國安會會不會去討論到這個議題這涉及到國安喔 涉及到國安 我為什麼這樣講 |
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你像譬如說2011年3月11日福島核災發生的時候你可不可以知道我們那時候在看的時候全世界差不多都對日本核食全部都限制他們的一個進口日本人也會叫哪五個縣市你們還記得吧你們有人知道嗎 |
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我問你這是有關你們的 福島當然是首商其衝 它的農產 水產 甚至畜牧這全部都被全世界給它做一個抵制 次成在旁邊 |
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荔木還有群馬還有一個最遠的叫千葉縣有到水千葉縣如果到福島差不多要三百公里兩三百公里我特別這樣講如果是你河山的話那用311福島這樣的一個河災事變的話如果要三百公里到台灣多你知不知道差不多到哪裡你知道嗎 |
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國安咧 開什麼玩笑 我這不是亂問人家想做差不多到廟裡了到廟裡代表什麼意思你知道 就是說河山萬一有任何的一個事情發生的話萬一啊 大家都沒希望會發生啊那差不多啊 |
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差不多要用輔導來看 農產、水產、水產全部都不能處理所以這個問題就是非常非常嚴重所以我本期昨天一直在講說過去40年 國民黨在我們國家公園的旁邊放了兩顆反應爐 |
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那四十年我們以為屏東這個就可以解除這樣的一個災難為這個國家貢獻那麼久了沒有想到又來一個白色的民眾黨又提了一個案要繼續再言喻所以我昨天才會下一個註解藍白真的在我們台灣對我們屏東來講真的不是什麼好東西 |
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重點是說 那萬一啊 萬一啊 這如果真的到時候 過了後 產生的衝擊會那麼大總統府對這方面 你們到底有沒有去做任何的一個推 沙盤的一個推演你倆的感受聽到嗎 有就說有 說沒有也沒關係啊 |
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委任理的問責跟質詢我們都很關心齁那但是這個目前這一塊我本身我自己個人沒有這個業務的執掌所以我可能要很謹慎如果可以允許我一點時間讓我去問好不好拜託這也不用問啦你如果做到最後啦這個是一個良心的問題啦是會通過這個就是說把人家的兒子死不掉把人家的兒子死不掉就是說這個台北的觀點跟南部的觀點會完全不一樣啦 |
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你像如果說合一為什麼他不弄合一合二合一合二的話按照整個任何的核電廠你只要哪發生核災20公里全部都要全部人都要遣照那30公里的都要去避難 |
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核災一發生 常常會因為地形 常常會因為整個風向還有你下雨 影響會很大日本到現在還哇哇叫 日本現在還認為我們是對他貿易歧視那五個縣市 我們現在還要他安全證明還有他整個輻射的一個檢測 為了國人的安全 |
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2022年我們政府開放之後整個國民黨都叫民進黨的政府現在它要說核酸要研議當然研議不代表核酸會怎麼樣但是重點就是說一個負責任的政府你那個核廢料沒有能力去處理的話你憑什麼要跟人家說你要繼續用核電廠任何一個縣市只要有垃圾廠的大家都帶頭抗爭 |
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這合作的 副秘書長 你如果在做議員 或是在做理貿的孫 白頭如果要再衝一個垃圾也不要衝下去 |
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一直用帶頭抗爭那樣帶頭抗爭的人說 好 這不就是正義怎麼突突我們這裡的一個環境 都這樣說台東也一樣 台東的垃圾也不可以藏 藏了一堆我就這樣叫我們的環境部長去說 啊啦 我們把垃圾倒下去垃圾我們把整個都填進去 也不是辦法 把它燒燒的 把它美化他們唱歌你知道嗎 結果連垃圾他們都沒有 |
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公文屏東說放合會也沒關係這個我就想都想不通啦但我今天是語重心長啦涉及到國家的重大政策我也希望說兩位兩位對這個可以啊我本來想說你會進一步來提供一點想法啦沒有想到這個部分你們是沒有涉及但是我覺得你們剛剛有一點回答不太好的地方視狀運的部分人家說總統該不會來 |
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你們覺得在社會上全世界所有國家在這麼久以來總統去出席的你們有這樣的記錄別的國家 |
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第一件事情我想快速回覆委員關於核廢的部分我一定把你的意見帶回去然後我會用最快的時間趕快回覆你那關於市壯域的部分委員其實這一次不管是中央還是地方其實中央挹注的預算來到三到四成以上 |
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568.556 |
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593.637 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
那至於總統的出席 過往的形式不見得是在開幕式我們大概 我有看過一些資料有些國家的總統也會跟著一起去跑步 運動等等的所以它形式很多元 你要看過嗎你真的要看過本來國家的總統去出席過嗎開幕式我這個真的是資料上面沒有特別顯示我可能還要再研究一下下但是他們的形式很不同 如果我看過的話 |
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594.818 |
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597.481 |
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實在是大家都應該這樣說啦 大家期待總統來嘛來鬥老鹹嘛 總統老時間來好事情嘛啊如果不來 這就不一定要強制總統去啊 啊也有副總統去啊我怎麼知道你這條鴿子 鴿子 這條鴿子 鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子鴿子� |