| IVOD_ID |
161740 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161740 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
20 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-21T12:17:29+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-21T12:32:11+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:14:42 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e381da0d479eb7db5db27b1996350cb232bc34272b9029b325d7a793ed122532b70b6df063f2d9295ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳雪生 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:17:29 - 12:32:11 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議（事由：邀請大陸委員會主任委員及財團法人海峽交流基金會董事長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席 是不是請吳董事長吳董事長有請吳董事長早董事長以前在馬祖海基會沒有派人現在海基會有派個人在那邊嗎您瞭解他吃什麼飯做什麼事嗎吃什麼飯做什麼事 |
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吃什麼飯? |
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做什麼事? |
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你有瞭解嗎?好 沒關係 底下的人來 誰?委員好 我是副秘書長李寶文 副秘書長你派的人是誰?目前派是一位誠信的專委在那邊做什麼事每天? |
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基本上他在這邊就是處理民眾諮詢的一個事項什麼 發員工薪水不是不是 不是發員工薪水是處理民眾各式各樣諮詢的事項兩岸人民相關的事項有沒有具體的工作內容我們給他的工作內容是包含就是說第一個他必須每天彙整在馬祖當地兩岸事務的一個語情並且製作工作週報那第二個就是拜會地方有週報回來嗎 |
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有是那拜會哪個地方的誰就我這邊所知道的是拜會過馬祖的紅十字會還有這個內政部的移民組的連江站相公所新移民協會還有馬祖海巡隊部法院地檢署地方媒體以及其他相關的媒體每天在拜會有什麼事具體的內容是是是工作的內容項目 |
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還包含文書驗證諮詢的服務文書驗證是他的範圍嗎文書驗證諮詢的服務諮詢喔我告訴你他才沒事做每天在網路上胡說八道寫什麼東西我告訴你啊寫說我們北竿機場改建他的配套你罵誰啊每天在網路上罵縣政府罵我們陳雪生立法委員 |
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你要罵交通部部長嘛 叫他下台啊罵民航局嘛 局長叫他下台啊你罵縣政府每天在網路上攻擊這些幹什麼飯吃太多了 閒著沒事做是交通部跟民航局主政欸不是縣政府主政 也不是我主政我是民意代表而已欸每天在那邊搗蛋嘛 你懂了沒有 |
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這地方有什麼幫助?幫了老闆你什麼忙?什麼狗屁都沒做叫他到民進黨黨部去好了這跟保文這邊認知有點不太一樣事實上根據他所回報相關的資料董事長我不為難他這個人工作可以換一換吧不然他可以減薪了他什麼出身的,馬上給他一個專門委員 |
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公務員考試了嗎?第一個就是海基會並不需要公務員相關的資格第二個是他目前的薪水應該還不是啦但他的目前的薪資是臨時人員的薪資啦所以比較起來應該不是非常高的薪資做點正事嘛到那邊跟地方政府搗蛋啊 |
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我們會請他強化...我們看不看機場有經過評估的勒是不是我們...我在那邊陳培宇委員我也跟他講我們和睦相處齁我們共同為這個島上的人民努力這個也是我們的目標是不是不是啊每天在網路上攻擊啊應該是這樣說啦就是我們會...我再發現的話齁我還會天天來找你們算賬我跟你講 |
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你們長官都不管了?如果委員有需求的話,歡迎隨時提出來這樣子,每三個月給我一次,他在做什麼事,好不好?我要看,我要看我等到預算我要看,你不要怪我把它刪掉了再不違反我們內部規定的情況之下,可以提供給委員,這個沒有問題 |
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違反你們什麼規定立法委員知道你們在那邊胡作非為胡作八道我不能講話私人的一個行為應該不在海基會工作的範圍之內假設他在網路上個人的發言他可以到台灣搞太陽花學運啦不要到馬祖那邊搞什麼運動啦我跟你講啦算七八糟啦如果這個是他個人私人的行為的話個人開除啊 |
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你們不用考核的啊你們不用考核嗎考核的部分應該是根據他的工作成果沒有工作啊 做什麼他還跟中共打電話嗎他可以到對面去嗎我們會查清楚是是是好啊 你請回 董事長謝謝還請邱主委邱主委有請陳委員好你看陳某人向中共投入了嗎 |
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我想委員愛鄉愛國大家都非常了解我們相識很多年了我也告訴過你我的祖先我的祖先我祖父祖母所有的親人我台灣沒有半個親人祖墳都在大陸以前都是中國對不對我們都是中國人講得好好的現在中國也不能講了 |
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連打麻將武統都不能自摸啊什麼話嘛你說我們言論有什麼自由理想報告委員我們還是尊重國人他文化跟血緣的認同五一八他們招商會兩岸金門馬祖都有去你們就提出監察委員說王安中民縣長在裡面什麼什麼什麼 |
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沒有會議紀錄,有什麼會議紀錄啊我們也沒開會也沒幹什麼的委員我們有跟縣政府做很好的聯絡市長委員吃飽飯不要亂寫啊我們也尊重監委的調查我們是在保護我們交流啦你能夠保護誰啊大陸老闆說的是你們能夠保護誰我們協助他不要違反現行的兩岸規定人被抓起來我馬上知道他的訊息你絕對不知道我告訴你 |
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你們怎麼知道中共抓了什麼人在幹什麼,你不知道,我會知道喔但是我問你,我絕對不是中共同路人不是說中國國民黨黨籍的都是中共同路人這什麼話嘛我們支持兩岸交流,但是應該要去統戰兩岸交流啦我們龍馬的錯商會行之有年去那邊幹什麼呢?去談一間我們酒怎麼樣賣到馬尾去免稅能夠入關是不是? |
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變成福州的嗜酒,我們想賺點錢啊,是不是?我們學生交流兩岸互動,學生交流,你怕我們被統戰?我這次去大陸啊,我告訴老公啊,你們統戰我是我在統戰你們,你搞清楚喔!馬祖被統戰了嗎? |
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福碼戳傷會因為涉及到很多項目是跟公權力有關我們還是希望好 你們公權力很大了我們是說我們不要讓縣政府的人觸犯所以我們要協助他金門到了廈門就跑到北京去了 我們有嗎都聽你們的指示嘛 是不是 |
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是我們很感謝縣政府我們中央地方一起協力我們去交流但是不要被統戰這一次五一長假我們來了多少人你有得到勤制嗎你說觀光客是嗎我告訴你二十幾個人一共二十幾個人丟臉了我跟你講金門去了一萬多個人為什麼人家不想來嘛 |
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人家來一個團,你告訴我三分之一現在你們怎麼又變成五分之一啊?中共的官員又變成五分之一三分之一,為什麼? |
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先讓他們進來嘛看看裡面的環境嘛當然馬祖很像被你們陸委會卡來卡去移民署怎麼卡我們都沒有卡我們都非常歡迎我們中國大陸的旅客到金門馬祖像金門是人數比較多我們也很想了解也協助了解為什麼你們開放的比金門還要早為什麼平均只有一天六個人我們也覺得很納悶 |
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我再問你,陸配,人家辦了三十年了,都沒事,現在要回去查我告訴對面的國台辦宋主任,請他幫個忙他們基層的這一些台辦都已經調走了,換人退休死亡了,去哪裡拿? |
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民主大陸辦這個證那麼好辦嗎辦不出來啊應該沒有問題啦只要跟我們聯繫那我們也會替他聯絡對岸的公安派出所你不要把他當匪諜嘛我們是在幫助他合法取得台灣的身份不要被質疑那麼我們兩岸人流往來身份的這個單一戶籍制是最重要的一個基礎 |
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你說外配對你們陸委會都大拇指嘛齁你一轉身就是這樣子我告訴你你一轉身就是這樣子你一來就是這樣子你聽懂我的意思吧我理解我理解但是我們是真心誠意的在協助關懷來協助我們陸配完成他那個法律的要求要人家發自內心的勒我要對你抱著感恩的心勒是不是 |
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他現在對你們抱著仇恨的心你知道嗎你知道嗎那天為什麼他們遊行很多人是不敢來很多人不敢來怕被你們照相以後又弄回去了你懂了沒有我的情志告訴你我絕對比你正確我們在搞民意的是不是請你們注意一下好不好 |
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還有陸委會的功能你要地方政府不要健康有序的交流你們中央陸委會跟海基會吳董事長當然在兩岸德高望重啦您說和平啊,我看很像不是這樣你說對等啊,怎麼對等法嘛他不會跟你對等的啦永遠不會跟你對等的啦台灣有一天被老美賣掉你都不知道,我告訴你 |
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被老美賣掉,你不叫你試試看看啊,台積電沒了你被美國人賣掉你都不知道你要兩個人均衡發展嘛,是不是蔡英文當總統的時候有聲音嗎?沒有聲音啊,我想吳董事長你很清楚嘛是不是,講話要小心嘛誒,烏克蘭死多少人啊你們沒娶老婆的到烏克蘭去老婆一個人可以娶三個,我告訴你是這樣嗎? |
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現在連女生都不准出來了連女人都要去打仗陸委會的功能是什麼請坐陸委會的功能是什麼 |
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沒有功能嘛 你在幹嘛不要說 我想我們自力維護兩岸關係和平穩定邱主委你不要跟我講官話啦不是官話 你講官話我也會講啊是不是我們要兩岸健康有序的交流幹什麼我也會講啊 講得很漂亮啊你說中國經濟很差很差很差我剛回來啊他們預防特朗普上去 |
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早就在搞擴大內需了我跟你講沒有那麼慘全世界哪一個經濟不是在下滑的只有中國大陸嗎人家說習近平快死了,我看他健康得很走路跟我一樣有點慢了你們不要這樣子搞518行之有年你們不要這樣子搞好不好我們是在協助地方政府也在保護他們不要觸法你已經讓步了,派民主黨去 |
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你已經讓步了,我心裡有感受,不是沒感受兩岸健康有序教練沒有做任何的會議記錄沒有幹什麼,你們為什麼這樣刁難但是不要觸法,我們是避免比如說你剛剛說那個福瑪出商會那個就有觸法的嚴重嫌疑那我也觸法了 |
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我們監察院也在關注,我們應該協助地方政府可以交流,但是不要觸發我看我們沒有言論自由了,去大陸講話要小心喔搞不好就是匪諜去對面啦,人家中共官員也沒做什麼紀錄也沒幹什麼北京也沒有講說,你跟某某台灣官員見面要寫報告來,沒有啊我們這裡很嚴格 |
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請你們注意一下好不好你不要把我當匪諜啦 我也不是匪諜我真的很生氣啊 邱主委我連跟你打電話打了一個多鐘頭我真的很生氣我跟你講我們是很好的朋友欸怎麼搞成這個樣子咧我想我們出發點就是幫忙地方政府好啦 幫忙不要違法吳董事長你回去交代底下查一下齁你派個人在那邊幫我們地方政府嘛怎麼在跟我們搗戰每天咧 |
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這怎麼可以這樣子搞啊 是不是我沒有監視他啊他的一舉一動 我們的鄉親都會跟我回報每個村 每個里 每個戶都會向我回報我那裡不是極權統治喔這是民心嘛 是不是好吧 謝謝主席對不起啊 |