| IVOD_ID |
161736 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161736 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
20 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-21T11:39:34+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-21T11:48:49+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:15 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e381da0d479eb7db89ac83e26acaa72732bc34272b9029b325d7a793ed122532efb3babcbf3bc8885ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
徐欣瑩 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:39:34 - 11:48:49 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議（事由：邀請大陸委員會主任委員及財團法人海峽交流基金會董事長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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好 謝謝主席 本席有請海基會董事長 吳董事長吳董事長有請好 |
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董事長好剛剛您在業務報告的時候還有剛剛吳啟明委員質詢的時候您都親口的說出了兩岸對話的管道中斷但是傳話的管道暢通那本席想要請教那是誰授意你傳話沒有人授意我傳話 |
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沒有人授意你傳話 你說傳話我沒有主動要人家去傳話傳話人都是來主動來找我的我認為這對兩岸合作有幫助你是說傳話人主動找你 他主動找你沒有人要你傳話 所以我們中央政府沒有人要你去傳話對 沒有那你怎麼知道傳話管道暢通我說 |
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很多人基於好意 基於協助的意思主動找我 說他們可以幫忙傳話好 那你認為可以傳話嗎兩岸之間可以傳話嗎這個事情很重要 你要讓我完整的表達可是你要掌握時間 我們時間有限你盡量重點好不好 |
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我絕對要言不凡我說沒有人唆遣我跟對方傳話可是因為我認為對話的管道中斷的情況之下那麼有人傳話只有好處沒有壞處不不不兩岸怎麼可以暗度成倉絕對不能傳話 |
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兩岸不能夠有一條不透明不合法不負責任的兩岸密室協商管道絕對不行那董事長請您先暫停就先等一下我們請邱主委好不好邱主委有請邱主委你好邱主委請問兩岸之間可以用傳話嗎 |
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委員是這樣的 我想我們兩岸過去都有你不要浪費我時間 我時間真的不多啦 好不好我們既有的溝通聯繫機制 我們都維持住啦那包括我們 那我就請問你可以私下傳話嗎兩岸可以有私下傳話的行為嗎 請你回答本席我想我們有很多的學者去大陸 |
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看到中國大陸的你不能這樣兩岸到底可以私下傳話的行為嗎你就回答可以嗎我想他們有很多的建議建議歸建議我現在在問你兩岸可以有私下傳話的行為嗎 |
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連這個都沒辦法回答不是你講那個私下傳話是什麼意思是法律的定義還是說我們日常兩岸互動的日常那如果是兩岸互動的日常當然 |
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互動那不叫傳話因為這個出自於我們海基會董事長說兩岸的溝通管道中斷對話兩岸的對話管道中斷但是傳話的管道暢通這件事嚴重啊所以我針對你我就針對董事長這句話你覺得OK嗎 |
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台商朋友像海基會經常接受很多台商朋友他們都會反映中國大陸的一些想法你接受反映這個不叫傳話也有很多的學者也有很多工協會的理事長負責人你不要再浪費本席的時間了所以政府有沒有授權傳話我們截至目前為沒有官方授權的 |
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但是他們熱心跟你講這個是很多來避免誤解誤判我們要肯定兩岸之間你是指對岸官方來講不是我們官方傳話過去是哪一個 |
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我是說這一種很自然的來給你反映意見的來傳對岸的想法這個很多啦但是沒有我們授權叫他去我們並沒有授權所以本席在這裡就是要釐清因為剛剛董事長在業務報告還有就是在報告的時候還有答詢的時候就一直強調所以你應該也認同兩岸之間不能夠有密室協商吧 |
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那當然所以民進黨也不能施設任何所有的傳達我們都要體制透明否則我們怎麼知道請你私下傳某件事結果你講另外一件事而且所謂的賣台這個就是賣台 |
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我們也很想知道賴清德總統說大公司併購小公司這件事是不是已經有私下在互相傳話 |
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有沒有 我想委員就不要過度的衍生不必要的解讀其實他就是兩岸之間互動我們覺得應該要對等尊嚴 相互尊重而不要你提出一個前提我現在在問說你私下傳話你不能私下傳話沒有這個問題 也沒有授權的問題所以沒有政府授權傳話這件事 |
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有沒有 截至目前為止是沒有授權的那未來也不可以吧要看情勢的發展只要對國家有利對兩岸有利要看情勢的發展所以對兩岸有利國家有利你們就可以密室協商喔當然我們會有一定的程序你可能忘記了民進黨政府多次強調兩岸無密室協商結果入委會主委說這個要看情勢而定 |
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第四條之四未經同意不得與大陸地區的機關法人團體或其他機構協商簽署 |
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協議所以你這個絕對不能密室協商沒有這個空間沒有密室協商一定是法治作業的你不能說看情況未來不管什麼情況都要體制透明而且要受到整個我們的監督 |
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這是必然的最後浪費我真的蠻多時間再來就是賴總統最近有指示國安團隊要對在野黨簡報國安情勢本席對這點要肯定這是正確的一步但是我們認為這一步不能停留在形式你要能夠深化成為制度化的朝野安全對話機制 |
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那所以有沒有考慮要建立一個國安共識平台跟委員報告這個目前有關於這個像我們在野黨領袖做這個國安簡報目前是由我們國安會正在作業當中我會把這個委員的意見跟他們反映 |
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我們也很希望朝野之間我們在分歧中找到團結我們國安一定是朝野一致面對不分藍綠好大家有共識最後最後因為剛剛吳清明委員也有提到那我想很多區域委員都有碰到 |
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現在主委口口聲聲要捍衛兩岸單一戶籍制度我們沒有反對這個但是你有沒有覺得做法上很擾民有沒有感受到有沒有接受到這樣很多的有我也跟委員這個確實是 |
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超過30年來的這個整個問題我們一起解決其實快要到最後面了我們同意要用關懷柔性的方式完整的配套措施我們會主動我們現在除了打電話進來解決之外我們現在還要主動走出去很多的這方面的座談會來舉辦你那個制度做法執行面可不可以想得更完善是是是我們朝這個方面來努力好謝謝委員好謝謝 |