IVOD_ID |
161735 |
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https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161735 |
日期 |
2025-05-21 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-20 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
3 |
會議資料.會次 |
20 |
會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2025-05-21T11:29:36+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2025-05-21T11:39:28+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:09:52 |
支援功能[0] |
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video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e381da0d479eb7db7bbb8b84a229b28432bc34272b9029b325d7a793ed122532b919a22b82dabb035ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
吳琪銘 |
委員發言時間 |
11:29:36 - 11:39:28 |
會議時間 |
2025-05-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議(事由:邀請大陸委員會主任委員及財團法人海峽交流基金會董事長列席報告業務概況,並備質詢。) |
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好 召委 我們與會同仁 請我們海基會 我們吳董事長吳董事長有請好 吳董事長你好 |
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吳董事長你到那個海基會從去年到現在在海基會我看你也是新聞人還有你一些經歷都是非常的完整也非常的辛苦所以我今天是再次的肯定你但是我們海基會扮演的角色是非常的作用 |
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你看我還看到你的文章是中道和平共存共榮的兩岸的理念那展開兩岸關係深層的思考以穩健的立場今天跟你恢復兩岸的對話那我們賴清德總統昨天在記者也特別的重申兩岸還是要再交流 |
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那未來 主委 董事長 未來我們兩岸這一邊的交流情形你看 因為我們從2016年 2016年兩岸的制度化的都已經停擺那我們是否能再恢復兩岸的交流我請我們董事長來做說明一下好不好 |
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剛才一開始的時候我跟各位報告33年來兩岸的交流從未中斷我們甚至於統計數目字33年來交流所產生的事物 |
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經過海紀委處理 多達878萬多件像去年就多達30萬4千多件所以跟委員報告的交流部分從來沒停止也許可以這樣講 兩岸政府不好但是老百姓要結婚還是要結婚 殺人要賺錢還是要賺錢終止的是對話 |
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對話所謂對話就是海際會跟對岸的對口單位海協會對話中止是2016年開始他的理由是我們不接受九二共識到現在為止也是這個理由可是我們政府是認為九二共識裡頭沒有中華民國的位置 |
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我們是這樣不接受不過我個人認為交流、對話、和平這三個都是連結在一起的所以應該窮盡辦法不過我是了解到社外的關係隨時變化所以審慎樂觀 |
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對因為本期比較關心的就是從2016年我們就終止了兩岸的對話那我是希望說在吳董事長你的提倡就是中道和平共存共榮的理念能恢復兩岸的對話以及兩岸的交流這是我們是比較關心的因為我們兩岸還是要處於大家共存共榮的 |
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就是這個角色一定要扮演好那這也是我們吳董事長所關心的那至於說30幾年來共同就在我們服務的案件就有800多萬件那證明我們海際會扮演的角色還是非常重要比如說我們的對岸的海協會 |
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要怎樣透過關係怎樣有一個我們的管道來保持這個暢通的溝通管道這一點應該是比較重要吧我剛才有報告 裡頭有一句話就是兩會對話中斷但傳話暢通那麼這些傳話 |
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也許在某一個時間會發生效用到現在為止沒有效用不過我的職責就是想辦法去恢復所以很認真在做 |
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好啦我們共同的努力共同期待因為畢竟我們台商還有很多都在中國大陸他們一些的服務案件我們還是要照樣的去運作這是我們兩岸的共存共榮的理念啦好謝謝我們董事長辛苦你了真的很辛苦好謝謝好請我們入委會邱主委有請 |
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主委好好 主委好主委本席比較關心的就是我們大陸的配偶因為我們三個月要繳交大陸的戶籍的處級證明台灣有很多是我們大陸的新娘的外配其實我們那時候 |
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移民署要寄一萬兩千多件那你一寄出來你整個海基會200線全部都報滿那這樣我就是要求說我們陸委會是不是一個政策下去跟移民署還有我們海基會還有我們陸委會大家要溝通是不是 |
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坤坯或是他們現在還面臨一個問題,就是他們過去已經一二十年了一二十年你又要叫他當處級,有的人事地務都變了所以說在這個部分,我們還要有一個配套再來實施,要怎樣來扶 |
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來來來來輔導他們可以取得我們更更加合法完整不然你又煮了要再回去的時候有的都是一二十年這個部分是請我們陸委會要去考量 |
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謝謝委員 這個非常感謝我們對於陸配有關於依法要把這個對岸除籍證明拿回來以確保他台灣的身份那當然這是依法行政那我們是在疫情期間發現疫情期間有很多剛結婚的人無法回去我們基於人道立場 |
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不能說三個月內一定要把初期證明拿回來這個是不可能那疫情之後我們就協助這些沒有完成初期證明拿回來的這些陸配開始協助他們然而我們就開始清查以往的案例發現我們總共台灣有36萬 |
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對結婚我們發出去的身份證有14萬張但是拿回出去證明只有13萬份還有1萬的這個差距到底是怎麼了為什麼沒有落實執法那所以我們發現包括過去的在2004年那時候我們兩條立和大一個翻修那個之前也沒有回去所以我們從去年10月就開始宣導清查的作業 |
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其實已經完成了第一階段第二階段了那也讓我們陸配在兩岸間因為我們兩岸條例是一種單一身份的制度這個是維繫兩岸人流人別重要的基礎如果這個被破壞的話我們無法進行 |
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兩岸的交流所以我們想說這個事情是繼續蓋下來呢還是我們勇敢的面對問題承擔責任找出解決問題的方法把30年來的問題把它解決掉所以我們跟委員一樣的想法要有一個完整的配套措施那對於現在不方便的還有資料不清楚的或者說他刑方不 |
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不變的或是年邁低收入戶的我們都有一些替代方案那有些人現在也許比如說他在懷孕他在就學就業或是人在監獄裡面我們都有一些延長的方案只要 |
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他有任何自愛難行我們包括海基會、移民署、陸委會都會盡最大的努力來協助他完成符合我們法律的要求我們也想說他在台灣的身份一定是合法的他才有可能最後安居樂業這是我們的初衷那我們持續的關懷、輔導、協助這個都不變 |
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好謝謝主委因為在我們的選區在我們新北市還是很多我們的陸配他們遇到的問題那我們還是來協助他們來取得一個委員也可以把你個案提供給我們協助好的好謝謝我們邱主委謝謝謝謝吳委員 |