| IVOD_ID |
161721 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161721 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-22-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
12 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-21T11:35:14+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-21T11:42:28+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:14 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e381da0d479eb7dbc6cf073cd32597f456f20d851a8422b7db0f420b3783afbd274b52413cc438d05ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鍾佳濱 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:35:14 - 11:42:28 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第12次全體委員會議（事由：一、處理114年度中央政府總預算案有關中央研究院主管預算(公務預算)解凍案6案。
二、處理114年度中央政府總預算有關核能安全委員會主管預算(公務預算)解凍案9案。
三、處理114年度行政法人國家原子能科技研究院單位預算解凍案1案。
（5月21日及5月22日二天一次會）） |
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主席在場的委員先進列席的政府機關長官員會長公務夥伴媒體記者女士先生有請我們核能安全委員會陳主委跟剛剛是副主委跟主秘嗎都請上來好了好 核安會 陳主委還有副主委跟主秘好 主秘剛剛那一位是組長嗎 |
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回答核廢料問題的是一併上來 好 謝謝好 主委來 這個我想我請組長來代為說明有需要你們三位幫他做補充好嗎好來 請問組長核廢料怎麼處置高階核廢 低階核廢核廢料的處置 低階的部分是不是經過這樣子那目前我們有低階儲存廠嘛 |
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有儲存廠有沒有最終處置廠還沒有 台北公司還沒找到那高階目前那方在水池冷卻的居多數嘛對小部分已經到了室內的乾儲室外的乾儲室外的乾儲好 那最終處置還沒有嘛對好 往下看那請問高階合肥最終處置廠目前有沒有選址條例高階經濟部有成立一個專案辦公室有沒有選址條例有沒有一個辦法來規範他們的選址方法 |
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有經濟部今年準備立這個選址條例是條例是立法對那麼我們河岸會是不是認為這是必要的選址條例是不是必要的就是經濟部認為這樣子他們才有經濟部他們要立嘛你們認為在河岸的立場上是不是認為應該要有比較安全 |
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現階段進城的河一、河二、河三,河一、河二剛剛已經講過了,水池裡面都滿了,用過來放滿了,幾乎滿了,只有河三還一點點。 |
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中層的部分乾式儲存池目前只有一部分進去其他兩個廠都還沒有是不是最終處事廠都還沒有好往下看那請問第一階核料目前放在什麼地方核一廠裡面是不是也放了四萬多桶是 |
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核二廠是不是也放了快六萬桶連蘭嶼很無辜的蘭嶼核一核二核三也放了快八萬桶超過八萬桶是不是這樣那我們屏東的核三廠裡面也放了一萬桶好那昨天有人有在野黨去強力推動了一個公投他們先前先管了核管法核管法他們讓本來 |
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本來我們的核管法裡面沒有延譯這個項目他們現在說要用延譯但是目前我們所聽到的世界上有延譯的有潛力但沒有重啟的潛力你所知道的世界上核電廠有重啟的潛力嗎有沒有人知道 |
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主委 副主委 貨幣組長有重啟的潛力嗎目前我知道有三座有申請但還沒有批准有申請沒有批准 是不是這樣子 沒有重啟的潛力好 那麼就算是有核管法有這樣的研議的可能那這些桶子還放在核電廠裡面 是不是這樣子是可以永遠放在核電廠裡面嗎 |
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他有一定期限期限大概多久到了沒有還沒還沒多久我們核准當時是40年40年也就是說核電廠開始營運後這些核廢桶放在腸子裡面只能40年那快到期了吧還有多久到期 |
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應該三場部應該還沒大概還有幾年確確數據我有可能三年五年不只不只十年因為他是比較後來比較後來的還有十年假設還有十年的時間我們要在十年之前完成最終處置場是不是這個程序是不是這樣子所以過去我們看到了從2006年開始到了2012年2013年所有到當時馬總統時期的江怡化院長也都在尋子到現在都還沒有確定往下看 |
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好 非核教員是不是我們的永續目標 主委是的好 那這個當中在2019年訂定的裡面有什麼持續推動低放核廢的最終處置的選址作業是不是這樣 要盡速地把兩女的牽走完成了沒有還沒還沒嘛是不是要推動高放的最終處置設施的法制作業完成了沒有 |
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還沒有嘛所以這樣的一個行政院的目標主委是不是包括核安會包括相關的行政院的機關都有責任有義務去盡速完成不管誰執政主委是不是這樣子是的下一頁好我就要結束了所以請核安會請你們就高放核廢的處置場的選址部分 |
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我當然知道這是經濟部的權責但是呢 核安會基於民眾對於核安的了解請你們呢 來進行一個全台灣各縣市的民意調查了解民眾對於高階核放 放置在該縣市的支持度可以嗎做個民意調查 我不叫你做公民投票 做民意調查因為你們要協助民眾有這個認知 |
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主委可以嗎報告委員那個經濟部其實他有一個社會溝通計畫我現在不是在質詢經濟部我在質詢核安會核安會主管核能包括民眾對核安的認知這個認知很重要請你們去調查民眾的認知主委可以嗎 |
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我覺得民意調查是個非常專業的東西你們可以委託專業的公司去做啊我們河岸並沒有能力去做這方面的事情這不是河岸專業這不是河岸專業但是你們可以委託專業的公司去做但是河岸要包括什麼包括民眾的安全認知是不是這樣子這個你們委託一個專業公司去做調查就至少可以給台電參考吧 |
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我覺得經濟部比較適合做這方面經濟部比較適合所以你們的答案就是經濟部那如果我請經濟部做你們也支持經濟部可以做決定是經濟部做決定如果經濟部做你們支持就對了這個有沒有有助於民眾的核安認知您覺得有沒有幫助報告委員有沒有幫助其實經濟部的這個溝通計畫裡面就有這樣的名字你覺得這樣的調查有沒有有助於民眾的安全認知 |
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我現在不是問經濟部我現在問核安會核安會如果經濟部做這樣的調查你認為有沒有有助於民眾的安全認知要不要核安會要不要關心民眾對核安的關心的安全意識他可以更讓民眾更理解核廢料的本質主委同意了嗎這樣的一個調查是有助於民眾的安全認知的核安會支持嗎對雖然不是你們做好 謝謝 |
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好 謝謝鍾嘉賓委員 |