| IVOD_ID |
161706 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161706 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
20 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-21T10:47:02+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-21T11:02:57+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:55 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e381da0d479eb7db3fadb7adbff8e4e532bc34272b9029b3db0f420b3783afbdfad46ac425924a0c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
麥玉珍 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:47:02 - 11:02:57 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議（事由：邀請大陸委員會主任委員及財團法人海峽交流基金會董事長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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邱主委有請吳董事長邱主委有請吳董事長邱主委好 |
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主委好 感謝兩位在今天列席報告對我們兩岸就複雜的情勢 除了國安還有經貿風險外我們兩岸民間來往的婚姻家庭也是相關三百萬家庭的福利的議題 |
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所以我們在看到的母親節的期間我們陸委會內政部還有海基會高調的舉辦說母親節陸配關懷活動對外宣稱就是溫馨關懷但此時此刻同時也有大量的陸配就是陸籍配因為無法三個月內補交三次中國戶籍的證明 |
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面臨處級導致生活的中斷還有政府一邊高喊溫馨的關懷一邊卻處級來政治清算這種一邊送慷慨心一邊剝奪他們記住台灣這個身份所以這個是政治性的羞辱因為這些媽媽不管是外配還是陸配他們母親節都快樂不起來 |
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因為呢一個就會擔心身份就失去了另外一個不知道我們政府什麼時候又再清算所以我們要請教一下目前已經有多少人因此被處級還有又有多少人進入補件的階段還有我們的部分陸配因為年老經濟困難或者中國當局不配合 |
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仍處於補件的困境三個月時程很短但是中國行政效力下許多人就是難以取得證明所以我們要這個申請還有這些的案件現在目前處理得如何 |
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好 謝謝委員 首先跟委員報告我們這個母親節的活動當然真的是關懷我們陸配所有在台生活這是我們例行都會做的事情第二個我也要跟委員您剛剛說我們請陸配為了維護他的合法的身份請他把這個儲籍拿回來叫清算我們不同意這種說法 |
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這個是在羞辱我們服務陸配的公務人員的努力我們都在協助我們的陸配試想我們的目標就是讓他們安居樂業他們沒有合法的身份怎麼安居樂業我想所有的陸配並沒有委員講那個三個月內就受到除籍的只要跟我們 |
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移民署跟我們海基會跟我們陸委會聯繫我們都會來協助他來協助他達成剛剛委員有問說我們就是之前的資深這些陸配那麼具有這個雙重戶籍被註銷的人我們從以往這個累計是有1192人 |
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那我也要跟您報告就是說您有提到就是這次呢我們清查就是在2004年3月1號這些人他們已經繳付上次原期證明了有1784件就是他們也配合政府然後他們自己去放棄了已經有這些那 |
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我們跟我們申請拒絕的可能現在比較不方便也有從公佈方案4月21號以來到520有880件 |
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申請延後附錄的也有352件那反映其他的爭議的問題我們說各種的疑難雜症都可以跟我們反映也有485件那麼這些每一個件我們都會專案的協助跟輔導並沒有委員所說的在給他 |
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主委是有做了所以我們也看到有這些問題但是因為我們民間團體現在目前很多人在反應我們要第一個就是 |
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第一個對陸配就是請送回去第二個就馬上就是有這些的問題但是直接是我們要取得台灣的身份 |
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我們是政府的規定來取的這個是政府規定不是我們像我們外配我們直接就是你要拿到放棄國籍你才能拿到台灣身份證對不對但是這個行政作業是你們的疏忽所以變成你們的疏忽現在你們叫後面再來去清查清算所以我們就覺得說沒有清算 |
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我們都在關懷協助輔導但是因為大家都感覺是這樣因為一路發生的事情讓大家就是仇在我們也跟大部分的陸配團體有聯繫他們都很感謝政府的協助你們要去查資料大部分的陸配也都是非常 |
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我還沒有找你回應等一下再換你回應因為有很多你們現在的資料為什麼以前不查今年又再查出來查出來了又要給的不只是送給小孩子而已媽媽一起送 |
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所以變成這些資料是你們寄 移民署寄就變成大家覺得說我的個資又是不是又外洩了 也有收到一些簡訊所以這個是大家在心惶惶還有很多的拿到身份證了 沒有收到你們寄過來的他們也不清楚說他們已經被處級還是沒有被處級如果他們沒有收到 就變成說是不是 |
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我三個月我就要被錢送所以這個種種的產生的問題所以我們是因為這樣呢我們就是在我們發生的當天我們就有就是新二代為了母親他們就是公開的去懲罰 |
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當5月10號我們新住民的團體姐妹們他們母親節前一天他們也公開的陳情到現在新住民的團體與新二代的團體多次陳情 |
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所以呢也批评我们政策造成就是家庭的分裂还有就是制度的歧视所以我们希望说这个放宽或者是说我们有没有一个专职的窗口让他们真正的觉得是说居住台湾大家是把我们是当作台湾人自己的家人的真的是要协助不要说他们的连新二代我们台湾之子 |
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他們都站出來了新住民也站出來了我們不能說不讀不回或者不要給他們回應這樣子我們就是辦個活動這樣子就做一個形象還是說真的是對他們好嗎我們希望我們陸委會這邊真的是真正的落實為我們居住台灣我們是台灣人的幫助 |
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是 謝謝委員我想我們做的這個目標跟您的一樣就是希望台灣能夠成為所有新住民安居樂業的新故鄉那至於這個事情包括您提到那個二代有很多的反應他們也有到入委會我們也剛剛說明他們都很支持我們政府的做法當然委員有提到那個就是他各種心理的 |
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恐慌或是不知道不知所措這個只要跟我們包括我們常說這個我們海基會是陸配永遠的娘家我們各地的移民署是我們陸配家庭的依靠我們陸委會就是陸配的後盾不要跟我們講就不會有你那個擔心更沒有歧視的問題只有關心輔導服務 |
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輔導是別人來求救但是因為產生主委我覺得是說我們不管是新二代還是陸配是他們來求救你處理我們希望的你主動因為已經你們的行政錯誤 |
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導致這些事情擦身你們應該聽我講吧應該你們要去辦就是論壇或者說明會邀請他們一起來跟你們面對面來去對談我覺得對大家比較有幫助我們好幾場的說明會都已經在 |
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預計要舉行了好幾場什麼時候因為他們還是在我們城市還有在北中南各地都會舉辦好我希望你們就是要管先讓更多人來知道說這樣子的事好 |
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接下來 好 你已經在辦了 所以我希望你把這些資料給我接下來我要問的海基會我們在報告中多次強調就是協助兩岸民眾的緊急事件但是當我們的工作重心之一包含就是辦護照啊 病危啊 就是滴流這些在台的這些事件 |
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654.224 |
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都是我们的玄关人命的基本权利的第一线的需求但是我目前我们政府在两岸就紧张的停摆之下我们在基本就是二十四紧急专线却在今年三月 |
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656.745 |
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679.451 |
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縮減成為還有12個小時所以我要請教一下若民眾深夜發生事情急難的事情或者像突發的病狀還有家屬深夜就是要對岸的求救的時候我們要等明天再來打電話嗎這樣的服務是及時應變嗎我們是希望我們的董事長因為希望你來幫忙我們這一塊 |
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685.578 |
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704.589 |
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很坦白跟委員這個答覆24小時的專線33年沒有斷過最近才改成12個小時為什麼呢因為我們的預算4塊錢被你們刪掉剩下3塊那是不是改成12小時之後要等明天再打沒有我們有錄音 |
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712.725 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
730.635 |
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那隔天一早馬上答覆對方這是不得已的措施請你們了解新聞這樣子我們不但20小時專項這樣子改啦我們很多活動只好取消啊我們連送每一個董事生日的花都取消剩下一張卡片 |
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732.151 |
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735.113 |
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謝謝我們董事長救命專線比董事的生日還重要但是你覺得董事的生日來去比對我覺得我們的人命關天我們就是說隱隱今天中風明天才急救這樣子就會是說我們錄音純正就是打電話進來所以我們還機會過去強調 |
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760.513 |
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769.362 |
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人道精神還有及時應變 如今卻唯一救命的專線的時效急救的專線變成現實的專線 現實的服務就違背我們的海賊會的精神還有宗旨原則不變 裡面的錢變了 |
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784.842 |
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789.304 |
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現在問題我們的服務我們的服務量我們在停擺啊我們要不是說有一些急迫性的我們要去處理沒有我們要急迫性的使你不是說行政判斷出了問題我們民眾需要的是什麼我們要去講我們民眾的需要的是什麼因為現在兩岸 |
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馬路不通但是唯一的救命專線也不通了 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
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這樣我們兩岸關係的但是你說就減一塊錢但是你的生日的來去來去把它比對我真的是聽了很難過啊我們一個專線救命的馬路不通了我們專線還來把它停掉還有12個小時說我們義大利人員不加薪真的我覺得真的是董事長我覺得是真的如果說 |
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858.008 |
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沒辦法求救的裝線多要去關的話我們覺得說我們海基會這樣子的價值是什麼啊董事長真的我聽起來真的很難過跟委員報告一下就是 |
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874.87 |
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24小時服務專線雖然現在只有12個小時但是8點半之後我們還是有這個保全可以來直接接通我們的服務的人員而且我們每天都有控管半夜的這個服務的狀況是什麼叫做緊急專線是是 |
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877.614 |
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881.096 |
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緊急啦人家要中風為什麼緊急專線啊不是說我們有錄音明天八點再處理中風的人已經沒了啦你們講這個真的聽不下去了 |
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896.173 |
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913.381 |
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對的確這方面我們這個叫做緊急專線啦緊急專線只有12個小時什麼叫做緊急專線我真的是聽不下去我們希望就是從陸配的除籍的正義還有 |
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914.621 |
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939.996 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
還有其他就是現在我們的就是海基會我們希望我們要去做的是我們馬路現在都停擺了我們的專線希望要有這個功能才能幫助到我們兩岸關係的國人的幫助所以我們希望說不管是我們人民的交代對我們的國會的負責希望兩位要跨部會的來去協調 |
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944.938 |
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952.596 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
幫助到我們的國民謝謝因為時間有限不用讓你們回答你們素面給我可以嗎希望你們怕不會來去處理謝謝 |