| IVOD_ID |
161702 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161702 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
20 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-21T09:57:48+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-21T10:09:39+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:51 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e381da0d479eb7dbe1503cfbef2725d932bc34272b9029b3db0f420b3783afbde4ab110b5714ccc85ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王美惠 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:57:48 - 10:09:39 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議（事由：邀請大陸委員會主任委員及財團法人海峽交流基金會董事長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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主席我們請邱子維邱子維有請黃委員早早主委早早主委在最近的時候我們教育部補充有說我們國際的交流不一定要限制於中國但是在這個規定當中我們兩岸交流 |
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一定要有健康和好感,才可以有這個交流,但是中國的政府根本沒有精神、沒有健康,我們要怎麼跟他有交流?在這個過程當中,我們海峽論壇 |
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因為有利空救人,現在已經16年了你們以前是說我們不要去參加,但是最近你們是對政府說不要去喔這是強烈的說不要去,不要因此而去來主委,你解說現在的轉變是怎樣 |
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跟委員報告,謝謝委員的質詢,這有關於海峽論壇那麼我們觀察那麼久,海峽論壇是中國大陸對台統戰的一個平台用來展現它對台統戰的成果,是一種大交流大合作的一個大平台每次參加的人數都非常的多 |
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不過都在中國大陸設定的整個統戰活動裡面去展現它統戰的成果這個對我們國人赴去參加這個統戰平台我們是採取一種勸阻不要去所以我們中央官員是完全禁止 |
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那地方官員呢地方政府呢我們也評估很多因為我們過去都說因為我們有下鄉去跟地方政府溝通有些地方政府跟我說過去我們那個不樂見地方政府去講得太模糊了可不可以具體一點 |
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事實上我們的交流應該要去統戰化這種你平時可以去正常健康有序的交流但是不要在人家設定一個統戰的平台去 |
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去幫人家做統戰的這種盆場反而會陷入到統戰的陷阱風險也比較多所以我們就希望他們不要去參加這個海峽論壇除了他自己政務人員不要前往他所屬的這些事業單位或是所屬的公務人員地方政府決定的也希望他們不要核准他們去 |
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主委 本席跟你談到這件問題的時候 澳國的銀行要去辦了 到你沒錢為止你地方的政府有要去參加 你的帳戶有多少人 有帶一個官司要去嗎 |
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交給我們報告,截至目前為止,並沒有收到地方政府的申請也跟委員報告...交給我們報告,交給我們事務委員,交給我們看什麼人會去 |
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跟委員報告其實大家去參加這個海峽論壇它就是一個統戰的平台也經常口惠而實不至那使我們參加的人都去那邊沒有什麼失意而且相關的這些統戰的活動 |
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1910年到今天,目前為止,這件事也沒有了我們就拭目以待,讓他相信我什麼人,全都已經參加了如果他有提出,我們也會提高,跟他提醒風險,會勸阻他如果他執意要去,我們還有一套,規勸的,如果你一定要去的話他如果不聽你的規勸,我一定不會來的 |
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其實目前為止是沒有啦因為你說的這個時間還要辦如果要申請還要付所以你剛才的回答 |
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也有人會去啦是有可能這樣我們要看什麼人會去啦不可以去鳳凰寨不可以去台湾買去啦如果既然站好好保護我看一看去哪裡去哪一家去哪一家真漂亮啦 |
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常常在早餐台外的人來煮的,在這裡本身就跟你我們事務委員會落尾到目前為止你說沒有辦的,我們要看什麼人會去,因為落尾,你不用搞了 |
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在這裡本身要跟你說 上禮拜五的十三的時候有一個新聞很大的說沙縣小吃來台灣開到九間店 但是在這個過程當中開店開很多 以前也沒開過但是這間店是國台辦出來開去才會說讚的主委你覺得這件事 |
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我知道沙縣小吃在中國大陸都有類似的...沒有啦,我現在要問說來台灣開車要去,國台辦說因為它開機才會啦,說來俄羅斯啦,這有可能未來是同站喔啦,雖然你... |
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全都來申請台灣會做生意啦未來有可能發生什麼事嗎?我們要去議訪咧,不然發生的事是,我能去了解,感謝委員提醒我有三線小吃我如果問你這樣,你還想說不知道發生什麼事你還聽不懂,關於這個 |
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因為他聽不說嚴重事件我們現在有了解他還是依法設立的當然啦 我剛才說依法設立啦有各種統戰或是不當的行為那我們也會依法查處截至目前為止還沒有發現任何違法的事情因為他說一個很嚴重的就是說兩岸一家會煙火共鳴 |
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主委,我們這都要去最終去注意,在我來說,本身來說,你應該做為陸委會的主委,應該對政客,大家也要了解說實在,所有的單位,你們這單位就是要保護台灣的生存內容,這是很嚴重的 |
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主委,在這幾個星期,你有說到說,啊,我們武統藝人的時候,開始要檢舉處理啦檢舉在我們兩岸條例裡面的三十三條之一的處罰裡面,我認為說,看來看去,我們從來就不罵藝人 |
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出發過啦,我們都會想說,那個人又賺錢,他又一生不由己,有的藝人是太過惡勢了啦在這個過程當中,這個藝人,說到他連同台灣都沒有,他在中國,他選擇中國的好啦 |
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像這個我們未來,我們真的要去加強這裡的兩岸條例法啦在這裡面,很多立委都要提案過,要退很多 |
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要不然我要問主委是您33條1日1日您如何去處理來 回答一下感謝委員我們已經跟文化部合組這個行政這個查處小組那麼正在進行必要的查處作為我們最主要也是要跟藝人你們為什麼會在一個特定的時刻全體一致 |
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發布傷害台灣的言論或者是附和中共軍演的這些貼文那這個確實不是自發的行為我們要了解背後真正的事實是什麼再來依法採取處分主委 |
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硬硬的喔,你們的看法要顧緊啦你本身所了解的喔,我覺得太過敏了,要顧緊處理啦像你們的副主委說的,梁文傑說的說,我們硬硬的,如果發,這個藝人會說,我們會去換人,所以他也不敢做啦 |
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你不要煩,不要衝啊,他生命也要做,國家賣去,他還有天理順利,他才會賣,所以主委,這是怎樣,本身說到這個才分開,一個國家,一個民族要流淚,是非常不簡單, |
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我這個人發明到今天主要的國家像剛才說的川普說的統一和平他是要說中美的關稅你認為他敢說這個川普是空空笑笑的誰是要變什麼我就變什麼你認為 |
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這部份是針對中美經貿問題沒有涉及台灣美國國務院也正式說明這個跟台灣沒有關係是美中談判經貿的問題 |
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所以我也覺得很奇怪,因為美國和中國,不是好評,不是同意,他們無緣無故去說這樣,造成台灣的混亂,所以那是毛環製造者,那是造勝你人的總統, |
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什麼人對有利益的一個要處理啦所以本席在這裡說你沒有什麼事情都有可能發生本席跟你說的這幾件你要最小去了解最小處理就好尤其我們的人民法33條之一之二要誇獎啟出以上好 感謝委員 |