| IVOD_ID |
161687 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161687 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-22-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
12 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-21T10:20:01+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-21T10:32:34+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:33 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e381da0d479eb7db19efc1ac85f2a9f156f20d851a8422b7c32860b8eb41b2449258d6461fda9c085ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
謝龍介 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:20:01 - 10:32:34 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第12次全體委員會議（事由：一、處理114年度中央政府總預算案有關中央研究院主管預算(公務預算)解凍案6案。
二、處理114年度中央政府總預算有關核能安全委員會主管預算(公務預算)解凍案9案。
三、處理114年度行政法人國家原子能科技研究院單位預算解凍案1案。
（5月21日及5月22日二天一次會）） |
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主席 我請那個福林安全委員會的主委又請陳主委陳主委 您好我講 何樂威你有沒有問題跳舞啦 跳舞啦喔 很好 很好我是客人喔 沒有要跳舞沒問題啦齁沒問題沒問題啦好我請教你喔 |
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在這個國際研究啊,我們現在一直在講這個SMR,這個小模型的負荷基礎啊,比較像小的國家,有擔保像個有貴的國家,你有沒有了解?有 |
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大概有在爭奪的,差不多...委員,來,院長回答報告委員,現在國際上有在爭奪的主要是共產國家,大陸跟蘇聯,是海上的沒有在爭奪的,澳洲、日本、美國、國家,統計是2029年才開始,它2030年才開始 |
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加拿大也有,英國,法國但是,大陸已經有在上傳了,俄羅斯,就剛才你說的這是我們沒辦法跟他們接觸,合作啦,我們是要民主的共贏人他們這算紅色的共贏人,所以我們要立場清澈這樣就很可惜了,因為另外 |
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要AI 剛才中研議員說 要超級的勝率要AI 沒電 電沒電國家如果不在這裡投資 不要放大幣的資源如果要高雄高傑 實際 只能要放在這個應該放的地方大家都了解 尤其在這很多做研究的科學家 |
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農澤現在AI的時代是一律前例今天沒做 明天就不會有了可惜我們的政府是西安的水培 金門培富齡發展從特赤時代到現在 |
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今天我們吃米糕白吃了,當時是福利福森在研究的時候,第一次的談判那麼,如果不經過美國的專家跟你認定,不經過台灣的專家認定,怎麼可能會開發呢?後來,現在全世界,注意,這個福林電廠啊,全世界的台油都是在40年的使用年限 |
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已經有處理煙壓 繼續最賺的大概有幾座 你知道嗎 兩幾個啊總共有四百多座核電廠取得研議的研議的有一百九十多座一百九十幾座 我們台灣一座都沒有要放在哪裡一家都沒有要放在哪裡各位鄉親 你想像一下 |
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很可憐喔台灣有這麼好的科學家這麼安全的檢測專家台電在火火煮煮三小時在全世界火營運轉屏蔽到年來都是五名來因為我們不敢把這個火營電廠給營業這是很可惜的很可惜的我不知道你們對這個 |
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核安會你有領略讓我們的婦人登場,如果要演繹,才安全檢測你們做得到嗎?核安會的職責就是核安,沒有核安就不會有核電,如果核安會 |
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認為宇宙電廠有安全疑慮的話 我們會要停止檢查這我們沒有很模糊的疑慮現在我們的副官法已經通過 恰恕今天在台電當然民進黨執政的情形 它是一定不會啟動因為新珠牌的恢復零的加分所以我一直在稱讚你已經達到目標 你已經對民進黨的駒馬的高台階級了恢復零的加分5月17日已經達成了 |
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有夠啊 越早啟動 台灣人民越早遞到幸福我們現在來說 他已經在頂檔了 我有說過李鴻二千年十月以前 他沒有說要重新啟動奮勇就對了我吃三碗牛肉麵給你看 羅總統喔 李鴻二千年十月以前我太了解他了 愛吃雞射魚 怕牌射 怕人家說 |
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要比較明顯的 比較大方的已經19輩子的家庭就對世界的搞事情對所有民進黨的先行先行都會搞事情應該靠入2300萬人的幸福靠入台灣未來AI的發展沒電是要AI什麼 變AI不是AI我講的就是 你的單位有辦法今天如果是台電的提出 |
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這本來就是核安會的職責能不能做到 你們有沒有能力做到 |
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有沒有能力我們檢查 我們評估如果任務安全我才會讓它運轉我知道 不是運轉嘛 你有沒有能力去檢測 |
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檢測能力當然是有那檢測全部安全檢測通過他才能取得繼續運轉對不對這裡面包括機族包括管路包括土木基建全部通通要少說也要有1000多項少說也要有1000多項所以我們是做得到的現在就是政治問題啦現在就不是能源問題啦 |
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政治問題如果能克服那你們又能幫他做百分之百的安全檢測那台電又願意提出來台灣確實是可以提前提前再度使用核能這樣啦我們給他半天的時間就是說今年是2025年嘛那今年5月17剛剛達到輝和家園嘛 |
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我們這台美女,她的元旦講話,可以確認,龍珠灰頭金不凡,我會靠電話跟她說,美女我會處理,你以前也覺得她不錯,我都可以跟老總統說,所以你們要準備,準備開始做整個福林電廠營業的安全檢測,你們做得到嗎? |
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這本來就是台電若求申請的話所以你已經準備好了河岸會的職責啊所以說河岸會早已經準備好了這河岸會的職責真好 真好這樣我聽你會很滿意所以台灣鄉親你們就知道沒問題 技術沒問題 檢測沒問題有安全 靠負擔現在是政治問題你們聽得懂嗎所以你們70幾%支持負擔是正確的 |
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我請教你,在我們台灣,我們現在台灣,老總統說的,他說三點,其實他兩天來已經說四半了,不排除重新使用核能,他是最後一半才說SMR, |
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所以在他內心 你要懂得讀他的心啦他內心是要要贏的他知道台灣沒領完 衝刺是沒辦法跟世界競爭的啦我現在請教你就是說 在這裡的國家裡面 |
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有的延20年 美國也有延40年是不是有延40年?是嘛啊 德國都延20年嘛法國大概只有延10年啦40年到50年這樣對不對你認為我們台灣一年三千一年三千如果要啟動延壓應該是做10年20年還是40年的整個 |
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如果要啟動營業啦不啟動就跟你無所謂嘛要啟動他應該設定在10年 |
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跟委員說明喔那首先還是要取決於台電公司自己評估然後決定他到底要申請延長多少時間那延長時間比如說他申請五年或十年或二十年 |
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如果他申請10年或20年他提供的相關佐證資料要去證明說這一段時間機組可以延長運轉所以還是取決於台電公司整體的評估然後核安委會去確認說 |
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他提出來的時間是可以符合法規跟安全的要求那你建議台電應該提出規定?當然如果以目前美國的做法就是先第一次申請延長20年然後之後才申請第二次的延長20年目前美國的做法是這樣這三項有延長20年我跟大家報告我們台灣只有零元港幣 |
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新本超過二十條新代表超過二十條新代表很客觀我最後問你一個問題 主席我最後結論就是說為什麼我們的太陽能一度四公尺到五公尺為什麼印度的太陽能一度一公尺日本這麼先進它整個也三公尺為什麼 |
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你們才有答案雖然你們是官府領但太陽能為什麼在台灣變成這樣尤其我的故鄉為什麼我們的太陽能不是像美國兩顆而已美國也兩顆而已為什麼我們不是太陽能的主管機構所以沒辦法這樣好 謝謝謝謝阿里 |
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好 謝謝謝榮介委員 |