| IVOD_ID |
161454 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161454 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-20-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
12 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-15T12:28:53+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-15T12:35:27+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:34 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fcea13637980d181b9b341c983529b37139dba296d6b924fd866399efa143b972cb1202a763c6df65ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
葉元之 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:28:53 - 12:35:27 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第12次全體委員會議（事由：一、處理中華民國114年度中央政府總預算決議有關財政部主管預算凍結書面報告案62案、有關審計部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案及有關行政院主計總處預算凍結書面報告案18案。【報告事項】
二、處理中華民國114年度中央政府總預算決議有關財政部主管預算凍結專案報告案17案及有關行政院主計總處預算凍結專案報告案1案。【討論事項】
【5月14日及15日二天一次會】） |
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馬上請主席長有請主席長委員好主席長好我們那個新北市 |
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本來應該有一般性的補助款主委總署1月已經核定了但是在4月的時候忽然修改方式本來1到6月是共會撥55.09億可是4月份修改之後呢7到12月只編了4.68億 |
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平均一個月只給7793萬 短撥了51.68億對於地方的財政以及地方要做的業務造成極大的影響我想請問一下主計長忽然間這個四月份修改方式事先有跟地方政府溝通嗎 |
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沒有 這個部分主要是因為我們被刪減了631事先有沒有跟地方政府溝通我們一會通知他你根本沒有溝通嘛你一直溝文下去你沒有在管地方政府死活我跟你講這些原本的一般性補助款 |
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是要用在比如說低收入家庭兒童跟學生的一些補助還有中低收入戶的老人津貼的一些相關的業務還包括教育的部分學生的營養午餐基本的設備等等結果因為哇 主計總署在完全沒有跟地方政府溝通情況之下直接一個公文過去就告訴地方政府我們要掃編51.68億給你 掃給你51.68億 |
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現在中央政府都這麼傲慢都沒有在管地方政府死活請問一下忽然間在沒有溝通情況之下就做了這樣一個決定的原因是什麼 |
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我們主要是針對爭域財源的部分才暫緩所以爭域財源的部分對地方影響比較少沒有這是你講的我的了解就不是這樣對但是他如果說這個部分稅出方面他是沒有影響他影響的是稅入這個部分如果說他本身這個在調度方面有問題他就是可以拒絕管 |
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對 影響稅率當然就是會影響有沒有錢可以給人家啊他就變成要去銀行借錢啊會增加利息的支出啊主委長 請問一下你現在短波的這個是一般性補助款對不對是那理由是剛剛聽你講說是因為你認為總預算還要釋憲嘛是不是 在等到釋憲結果出來之前所以你做了這樣的調整嘛 沒錯吧 |
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不是 我們是現在通案刪減他939嘛那我們依項目減 減了313的話通案刪減有刪減到一般性補助款嗎他項目的部分 按照道理我們是可以沒有嘛 今天我去看一般性補助款你們總共變多少2501億1279萬 |
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這全部都照列啊沒有人去刪沒有人去動所以你都是可以動資的啊但是他636他要我們自己刪減636你要那通刪那你就是主席長你就可以分配啊請問你這636你要去刪到一般性補助款嗎你有要嗎我們要刪到一般性補助款你自己有沒有要去動到這一般性補助款嗎我們有要刪啊那準備你要刪多少 |
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這個部分我們要簽你現在如果你認為說是因為通山部分影響到你的話那你應該有個負案嘛比如說你已經計劃要去通山一般性補助款多少了嗎多少 |
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多少嘛 沒關係你就回答嘛你這應該有數字嘛 多少只是說你現在有一個負案是通山多少但是你覺得你要透過四線的救濟手段嘛然後等到救濟手段沒有出來之前你要調節嘛我現在就問你你原本通山你要三一半系補助款多少 |
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因為我們本來刪2076嘛要刪到一般性補助款2076不是我們本來是刪2076那裡面含6362076單位是什麼議員一般性補助款總共2501億然後你要刪2076 |
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不是 我是說中央補助的 中央政府的部分今年被刪減2076不要扯別的 我們現在 我已經跟你談到項目了嘛 不要再扯別的了嘛是 那我現在就在想2076裡面有939是通案刪減那通案刪減它指定項目的部分就是303沒有指定項目的就是636那所以這636的部分 我們當初一直 |
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凍結的部分一直沒有送是因為說到底要不要刪這些你不要答非所問我現在就問說你636你要通刪你有要通刪到一般性補助款嗎有嗎多少原則上是全額啦你要全額把2501億照列把它刪掉你總共636你要刪2501億3636所以你636全部都是要刪一般性補助款為什麼 |
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341.043 |
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因為我們因為這個錢是要給地方的所以你要把因為有被要求通山636所以你就要把一般性補助款全部當作這636喔不是也太誇張了吧所以中央完全沒有在理地方喔地方的需求中央完全不考慮喔 |
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有人叫你通山全部刪一般性補助款嗎這個太扯了啦我看所有的立法委員都來自於地方聽到主計總署這樣子講通山就是要把一般性補助款全部刪掉有道理嗎 |
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你就中央303按比例啊有說針對這一項要全部通刪的嗎這有道理嗎因為我們中央已經刪了1439沒關係主席長大家都看到了這一些錢都是比如說我們地方我今天也不是為了新北市講而已啦全台灣那麼多縣市都受影響啦那全台灣的縣市民眾都在看啦中央的態度就是因為有被通刪所以我全部都是要把你地方錢砍掉你剛剛的態度就是這樣啦好 謝謝葉委員 謝謝主席長 |
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接下來有請王委員事監質詢 |