| IVOD_ID |
161117 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161117 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-20-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-08T12:33:23+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-08T12:42:15+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:52 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/26c557d936b203c17ad41dcec0ba641ee0059966c803d0e9567847e18f9cb5870630bd2d7ebc433a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
謝龍介 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:33:23 - 12:42:15 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：邀請行政院主計總處陳主計長淑姿、財政部莊部長翠雲、中央銀行楊總裁金龍、國家發展委員會劉主任委員鏡清、勞動部洪部長申翰、銓敘部施部長能傑就「我國如果要設立國家主權基金，中央銀行與政府相關基金（如四大基金等）所扮演的角色為何？」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【5月7日及8日二天一次會】） |
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主席我請總裁總裁請市委員早姚總裁早早 |
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我講給你講,你有沒有困難?沒有啊,沒困難啊,沒困難啊你不是用台語,人就不會這樣啊?沒有啦,我幫你報告啦事實上啊,我國語沒講得很認頓,我的台語也沒講得很認頓啊因為齁,我們的腔調齁,台南的腔調跟我們的腔調又不大一樣你德文?我屏東 |
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畢竟雞皮疙瘩一樣沒有啦 還有少許沒什麼感情我今天沒什麼感情兩件事要來跟你討論好嗎好 哪裡哪裡好你行嗎好 哪裡我們古早人說的 水不寒 霧雨滴 雙撇水不燃 霧雨滴 滾煮所以看你在印度的過程中 我感覺你擔當很多啦所以我是很欠佩你謝謝當然有我顧你的啦 |
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五個的報告你可以做一些說明這沒問題台灣的利益跟美國的利益衝突的時候請教你 你會站在什麼人的利益當然啊 都是我們的利益啊我們的利益 是什麼人的利益全民的利益啊好全民的利益我今天就基金跟法律你可以報告說 基金 |
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不應該有外匯,不是說不應該,是說外匯絕對不能無所謂給你們提供的嘛是是是,對啦對啦,沒有不對啦那這樣就是說,這次的談判,其實是我們的老總統因為他看美國人一直找不問路,最後,最後,美國的工資 |
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如果要求無息不要說一百年 五十年 或者是三十年 二十年只要是沒理息要求我們高級的公司把它退換過來 |
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這個我選的時候 你如何面對我跟委員報告 基本上你不要說 你如何面對你這是假設議題啦不是假設喔不不不 我要再跟你報告因為你的立場 美國的財政部啦你的立場很清楚就是 外匯不能無雙使用所以我認為你很好啊所以 如果是這樣 |
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總統要求無線告白美國的工程,你是要選擇下台還是選擇尊重?我跟委員報告 |
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我敢說總統不會有這種要求你有比我更了解他?你讓他更了解,我看那是另外一個議題我告訴你,你問單純出家長,我告訴你,總統就是有可能這樣做嘛 |
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空氣不來風啦這基金啦其實不在於台灣啦台灣錢很多 台灣錢比較少但是監督的機制如果沒有出來這八檔的外商高級 我跟你講 像太陽能光電這樣游到整個燈去 綠油油的出來這是專民 不能忍受的好 來 給你就是這個法律啦 對很困難 我很多這裡的中小企業 我過去也做過 是是是 |
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這半的高趴 坦白說在我揮擦 揮過頭面不用講忍耐 大家可以渡過渡過之後當然你有你的內部 你有你的盤算但是關稅大概就是25%啦企業對美國這個賣壓來說收到的應該差不多是一人一半啦所以吸收一半12.5% 恆恆你這個9.5%就可以大分 率先加算了 |
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企業的危難就是說我可以不談我百四五十年了我三台車沒問題啊但是我請外的員工一個員工一個家庭我不能讓失業現在企業的煩惱是這個社會責任跟社會得益加上流行失業的問題OK來 現在我請教你很嚴肅的很多企業叫我說一定要怎樣因為大家在問的都這樣沒重要是這個 |
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因為他所有的頂端 整個年底就說你今天如果可以做一個保證這樣他們到明年第一季所有的頂端 他可以去安排他的風險要怎麼來拼所以我正式在這裡跟你請教一個問題到今年12月底 12月30日以前 新代表29口本你收得到嗎 |
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非常簡單的問題對啦 我說匯率它是有升有貶啦我知道啦 因為你這個答案 我沒有給你為難喔是是是我沒有給你為難 因為你今天這個答案出來 他們能夠到明年第一季他知道他要怎麼拚不用風險 這樣台灣能夠往來十個月 |
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不過不然我跟委員報告事實上到現在30塊已經有很多...你不要要求很多人 總裁啊 你跟總裁請教一下你對以前29號沒有收的到嗎這個我要跟委員報告這個我沒有辦法回答你 |
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我們這裡所有的黨主席,可以你跟我說的話我已經忘了十二月三十一疫情,由總裁說二十九個月,代表二十九個月他不一定收得到,他如果收不到了,他現在也沒辦法保證我沒有說我收得到收不到了,我只是說你這個問題我沒辦法跟你回答 |
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我沒有說我收不收不收,這是兩回事,這個是兩回事所以這兩天你講的一個問題,就是有機的心理,所以不一定是馬祖豪,要自己手上手來我會拋喔我會再給他回顧 |
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你一直在這裏著墨這個匯率你是立法委員的大員所以你一直在這裏說話會影響市場的預期所以我告訴你不要在這個時候一直在著墨 |
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今天我告訴你200元就會有議席今天是對30元到29元不然你還要請求這個國務卿來代你講20元給人家 你講19元給人家 要不要收工 |
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總裁沒有說過29個月跟200個月會一樣的所以正式的答案就是29個月他收不掉沒有 我沒有這樣說沒有 我沒有這個意思 |
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你沒有這個意思 你說台灣外交有兩種藝術所以我要慎重跟委員來討論在國會議場討論匯率比較serious |
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這要謹慎 謹慎要節制我們都知道 這事情我們都知道我們當然關心但是你現在在說的時候 我不是說你關心一定會害他 |
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所以我跟你們說的就是29個月你一定收不掉OK 謝謝我沒有這個意思 |