| IVOD_ID |
161082 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161082 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
18 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-08T10:29:16+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-08T10:37:35+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:19 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/26c557d936b203c19fee2b99226ebd90cf7df95ebd13a46f97e39277836b040ffa45173602f404955ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李柏毅 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:29:16 - 10:37:35 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第18次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請內政部部長、國家住宅及都市更新中心董事長就「都市更新與危老重建之執行成效及未來展望」進行專題報告，並備質詢。二、審查委員牛煦庭等17人擬具「都市更新條例增訂第四十四條之一條文草案」案。三、審查委員賴惠員等23人擬具「都市危險及老舊建築物加速重建條例第三條及第十一條條文修正草案」案。【第一案至第三案綜合詢答並處理法律提案。】） |
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謝謝有請吳署長吳署長有請 |
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今天我們雖然是討論都市更新跟危老重建但是近年高雄除了這個危老重建執行的非常多之外那都市更新其實都是非常大型那非常大型都是用公辦而且涉及的單位如果沒有中央政府的協助的話這是非常非常高雄建設幾十年來都沒有辦法達成的包含我在畫面上給署長參考的 |
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雅灣特茂山的三個基地這三個基地其實你也知道台電有60%的土地沒有經過中央政府的協調沒有經濟部台電的首肯不可能可以執行的你看第五個我接下來講我們左營TSMC旁邊 |
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那也是因為中央有協助讓中油可以加速土屋整治而且讓台積電進來才有這麼大的需求量那這麼大的需求量那高雄市政府又跟從G20G20是整個是高雄市政府的包含水肥廠、瀝青廠整個公辦都跟那包含高鐵之心高鐵之心又更困難了它包含國產署 |
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鐵道局國防部那整個把它整合那還有包含高鐵之星就有兩個那還有包含最近一塊剛剛執行出來的其實是在劉思芳部長擔任高雄市副市長期間把國防部 |
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保留下來的眷村文化保留園區五十幾公頃然後裡面現在因為已經經過了十多年沒有辦法開發那也逐漸荒廢那也跟國防部達成協議做文化都更那這個是非常特殊的那文化都更也已經順利招商了在多新開闢一條尾六路以北的地方來做文化都更 |
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那以南的地方大概有三分之二的園區繼續保留眷村文化園區的一個風貌那也跟國防部有合作有這些相關的進度所以高雄的都更比起 |
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現在國土署在審核的還有很多都正在進行但是我們現在發現一個問題要趕快跟署長這邊來做討論我們現在剛剛部長也講我們已經預告要修正的都市更新建築容積獎勵辦法裡面 |
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我們現在還有一個正在剛剛公告上個禮拜公告的一個基地他其實也是跟中油拿來的他其實就是高雄捷運R17A5街廓的公辦都更案那這個都更案呢他面積有4200坪總開發可能會到38000坪他離台積電有多近其實就是同一個基地未來可能有一些要做企業安家宅做一些 |
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231.286 |
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可能就是沒有要賣的那作為臨時的比如說某公司啦不管是TSMC的員工也好或者是未來中油企業總部的員工來也好那可以臨時的做這些臨時的住宅使用的但是這一個財務的規劃跟我們即將要公告的這個草案可能沒有辦法符合但是你回頭要看署長 |
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258.576 |
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左營已經興建這麼多社宅了花董事長在這裡花董事長請你也上來左營已經興建這麼大量的社宅跟台中的狀況完全不一樣啊我們的社宅比例已經這麼高了那我們即將要公布的這個農長辦法裡面會限制到已經公布的這一些現在比如說這個R17的案子署長你覺得這個有沒有解 |
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其實我想我們這一個是本來就是全國性的那今天如果但是我們社宅的一個追求其實大家都希望照顧各個行政區的這一些需要的人那第二個我們在社宅的標準當然以最高標是5%5%其實現在各區 |
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294.187 |
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應該都還不太可能達成但是我想我想在這執行的過程當中我想說明一下執行的過程當中當然對於既有的都更已經在執行中的或是已經簽約或是已經決標的所以我才說明以簽約的或是說以決標的那當然就是 |
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要另外做一個處理因為我不可能去更改雙方的一個行政行政的一個相關的責任所以我想說這是第一個啦那第二個就是說對於這一類的企業因為我想你提到的企業安家財我非常理解因為對於這一個 |
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339.594 |
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高科技廠商他們的招財增財培訓其實大致上都會有需要所以這一個部分我想在這個過程當中我們是非常認同的所以在這個過程當中我們會訂定他的所謂的除外的一個條款就是你在時程上你已經進到哪一個階段了事實上就不適用 |
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我想我們不會去做這類的影響所以我才會剛剛報告說如果他是已經絕標了因為現在法規還沒有公告所以我想我們在做這個理解上我們其實市府也有跟我們反映啦所以我們理解這個過程 |
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那我想這一個部分因為在院裡面還要再討論因為我們現在初步這個預告完成那也有各界都有提出意見我們還要進行做一些草案的一個修正方向上我還是這裡可以建議我們這乖寶寶條款跟這個壞學生條款高雄這乖寶寶條款應該給予相似度的優惠你用比例來算就知道了嘛那台中市就是顯然的壞學生嘛 |
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整個設宅的進度然後整個房價也好等等的我覺得建議國路署可以做這一個方向的研議難得今天花董事長來那也針對中油目前我們談了很久的這個幼充宿舍 |
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421.715 |
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那希望可以也有住住中心還有包含中遊跟市政府的合作那來可以跟地方的居民來做一些說明那給大家一點想像在這邊還是邀請花董另外從實設宅今年可能就即將要遭到 |
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436.721 |
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可能即將有人入住 招租大量的代管業務我那天內政委員會進行考察的時候高雄市督發局也給予很多的這些意見 |
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437.796 |
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459.068 |
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那可能在近期也要邀請花董事長一併的來說明並且對於這些代管業提早的做一些布局 謝謝好 謝謝委員我想高雄煉油總廠 紅藍釉蔥宿舍其實我上個月才去那他們資產管理處的處長一路陪著我們這樣看 |
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460.289 |
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476.663 |
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後面有很多可以大家一起合作的空間和機會那我們也會進行整理規劃那從石岸區今年會遭租那當然我們都準備了差不多了後續因為高雄會有大量的車災完工所以我們會有一個整大更大有系統的管理方案到時候還是跟委員報告 |
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477.304 |
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494.677 |
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這一次R17的這個名稱企業安家宅我覺得很可以參考啦因為未來對於紅藍社區等等的保留現有的這些應該保留的那其他有空間發展的我也建議我們住住中心我們持續的跟中油來接洽了解謝謝委員 |