| IVOD_ID |
160954 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160954 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-36-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-05T12:15:59+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-05T12:32:27+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:16:28 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/38e90b73e994f9b7b6fdee885288b71d7d3e2c5f8a9bba8e627b44cbce2319d1f1fcc3062aedd04a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅智強 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:15:59 - 12:32:27 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：邀請總統府秘書長、國家安全會議秘書長、國家安全局、外交部、大陸委員會，並再次邀請司法院副秘書長、法務部部長、法務部調查局局長、法務部廉政署署長、行政院人事行政總處、銓敘部、內政部警政署率所屬相關單位列席就「近期連環爆發總統府、國家安全會議、外交部遭共諜滲透及忠誠安全查核不足，導致國家機敏資訊外洩，提出檢討報告及相關防制措施之預算執行情形」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【5月5日及7日兩天一次會】） |
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主席有請外交部陸委會國安局法務部好 |
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經濟學人日前有一篇文章他說一場有關台灣的超級強權危機即將來臨他指出三大因素會將台灣置於險境其中有一部分說到台灣政府政治失能成為中共灰色戰術企圖利用的弱點也提到賴清德 |
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的總統的強硬反制那麼進一步加劇的社會撕裂讓中共有機可乘那我想請教一下我們各個部會你們都是作為我們總統非常重要的不管是對內的治安或是對於國家安全的重要幕僚單位你們對於經濟學人的這一篇文章的看法是什麼先請外交部好了 |
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呃委員好呃我是外交部人事處處長那對於這個部分的話因為我們呃不在我們呃今天的夜館範圍裡面所以我沒有評論謝謝好來我們請陸委會委員好我們對於任何涉及到國家安全我們都是非常慎重以待好來請國安局呃委員好 |
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那我想國安就是全體的人民的一個國安那我們認為有關於國安的部分一定要特別重視好來請我們的部長我想這個國安的問題是現在大家全民最關注的反正有涉及的一些的建立那我想我們都會做一個參採謝謝委員是那我難怪經濟學人這麼寫 |
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這位四位的回答跟沒回答也沒有差別太多但沒關係你們回去也準備一個書面來看看你們怎麼去應對經濟學人這樣的說法一個重點賴清德總統尤其對國內我們一些政治的狀態的許多的做法加劇的社會的撕裂也讓中共有機可乘我來請教我們的國安局好了 |
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事實上不管是哪一位總統在任中共對台的威脅一直都存在沒錯吧但是呢今天中共對台的威脅有一個非常重要的一個著力點就是如果當台灣內部這個政治鬥爭政治的所謂的對抗越加激烈台灣的社會 |
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開始進入分化的情況之下那是不是中共就相對是比較有機可乘了對不對當然這個如果是我們內部的安定確實對中共的滲透或者他的一個相關的一個對我們的一個打擊沒錯嘛所以我想問一個問題請問齁這個李登輝前總統跟陳水扁前總統 |
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馬英九前總統跟蔡英文前總統再加上我們現在的賴清德總統有哪一個總統在他總統任內他以黨主席的身份下令要求全黨公職來推動在野黨的大罷免哪一個總統有做這件事情來 答不出來來 換一個陸委會來答答看 |
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五個總統無選 搞不好無選五啦 你打五個也可以啦哪一個這個可能不涉及到陸委會的執政不涉及到 萊豪請部長這個不是我們法務部主管的業務 我沒辦法回答這個問題我告訴你啦 就算沒有嘗試 也可以常看新聞 |
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就算不了解狀況我相信所有的社會現狀的報導各位都心知肚明只是你們說不出這句話人家經濟學人講的社會劇烈對抗其所本是什麼身為一個總統他有和諧跟團結國家的高度象徵意義他竟然具名發文 |
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以黨主席身份要求全黨公職來投入對在野黨的大罷免我跟你講這不就是創造中共的可趁之機嗎李登輝做不到陳水扁做不到馬英九當然做不到蔡英文也做不到就我們現在賴清德總統做得到 |
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難怪我告訴你今天台灣情況越來越危險因為當一個總統把所有的心力都放在罷免在野黨搜索所有在野黨的黨部全國性搜索各個在野黨的黨部 |
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我還要再問一下局長 我一樣給你這個五個題目啦李登輝總統曾經他主政的時候的檢調有搜索全部的在野黨黨部他有去搜嗎 有沒有有沒有這個跟我國安局的職長是沒有相關的所以我們我告訴你沒有啦告訴你沒有啦陳隨便也沒有啦馬英九也沒有啦 |
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就我們戴清德總統然後剛剛我看很多的詢答一而再再而三強調 勿往勿重啊勿往勿重啊我要回頭說今天不只經濟學人提出這樣一個說法美國的外交政策網站刊登華府卡內基國際和平基金研究員的文章他說川普應遏止台灣 |
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然後說賴清哲總統不斷強調台灣主權獨立一步步增進北京動武風險要川普總統仿效布希時期做法要求台北自治以維持台海穩定避免美國遭受波及捲入戰爭這個觀點有人認同有人不認同但是不管是認同跟不認同說真的我們的外交跟國安部門都要去警覺一件事情 |
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美國有這樣的聲音存在對我們絕對不是一件好事這一點我相信國安局應該認同吧有這樣的聲音存在應該對台灣不是好事吧是不是這總會是國安相關事務了吧我想任何的一個評論當然我們都會收集會做一個研判謝謝你 作為幕僚很辛苦我們留我們的部長其他的請回 |
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部長 共諜案連環報 總統府立法院外交部都被滲透國安機密從總統府跟外交國安首長身邊源源的流向對岸我看這件事情我是很有感觸 為什麼因為我在總統府工作過 我曾經擔任總統府的副秘書長 |
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尤其像何仁傑他擔任吳釗燮幕僚長達13年靠吳釗燮一路提拔進入總統府外交部國安會那吳釗燮在外交部長任內六年斷八國我們國安局長也請來一下 國安局的副局長那麼我想請教我們的外交策略跟戰略布局總統外交初期的規劃的機密 |
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不是被北京當局精準掌握了嗎有沒有這個風險 請問我們的副局長是 當然是有這個風險所以在政府總統的隨乎安全人員是我們特別要在安全考核的一個對象然後我要告訴你另外一件事情事實上我們賴清德總統面對這件事情他的回應 |
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我也想請教一下他說執政黨的黨工都是收買對象在野黨也一樣各行各業都是中國的收買對象然後但是目前我看到被揭露做中共內應的 |
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主要就是吳釗燮秘書長辦公室的何仁傑總統府總統辦公室的姿意吳尚宇立法院前院長游錫堃辦公室助理盛楚英民進黨民主學院前副主任邱士源以及新北市議員李語典特助黃曲榮等五人當然我知道你們一定說個案不洩露啦但是我要講一件事情 |
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還有其他人涉案嗎我這個問題你一定說個案不介入啦可是我就要問一個問題第一個有沒有跟我們的吳釗燮秘書長好好的談一談了解一下我們現在到底泄密的範圍有多大我還沒講搜索啦我沒有講搜索我只是說起碼跟吳釗燮秘書長談一談有沒有做這件事情有沒有 |
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這個是偵辦的個案 所以我們也不便去做一個說明偵辦的個案 其實我跟你講如果是在總統府 我在總統府的時候我們的外交官發生這種事情我告訴你 我做總統府發言人 我一定有出來說明的義務沒有叫你交代細節 |
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你起碼告訴國人今天吳釗燮我坦蕩蕩我也接受相關單位的詢問來幫忙協助做損害控管我不知道為什麼連這一件事情都做不到照你所說的否認那我解讀是沒有喔這個是沒做囉是這樣嗎部長 |
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我沒辦法去這是個案嘛 就是回到了個案嘛你個案講了一萬遍有對啊 這個個案我沒辦法說好啦 沒關係 我告訴你你一貫就用個案來講但是我還是要講一件事情國人有知的權利我也不是在怪我們今天的法務部啊 國安局啊或是我們的檢調機關啊而是今天 |
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怎麼會總統府這件事情沒藥沒金呢真的如果我是在總統府的時候這個事情媒體不可能放過我啦 |
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我也不可能交代案情 我站出來不會說 不會啦 我跟你講我們的這個國安會秘書長 我們總統府的那個 我們的總統我們都已經1510 ABCDEFG五項 六項 七項的一個洩密範圍我們都已經跟這個司法單位已經說了我不可能透露到這麼細呀但是起碼安定國人的心這件事總要做嘛 |
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就像部長喔 如果部裡發生什麼狀況你要安定民心的話 你部裡的發言人總要出來說話嘛對不對 沒錯吧我不是講個案啦 一些重大的法務部的重大事件你的部裡發言人要不要出來說一下我們法務部應該不會發生重大事件吧不會不會 你是太小看法務部了你太小看法務部 沒關係啦 我告訴你啦 |
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就這麼一個道理嘛然後接下來我跟你講喔然後因為共諜案頻傳啊我覺得部長都訓練很好都不談個案可是我們的總統沒有啊直接一刀就是說在野黨也有啊在野黨有沒有總統說的對不對請問我們副局長 |
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從歷次歷年來的一個統計執政黨或在野黨都有發生謝謝 你現在又補個案了因為總統講的話你也得要跟不是 我告訴你你作為總統你跟我講在野黨的個案是哪些 你告訴我你要知道總統府是總統府 國安會 外交部 |
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你不要跟我講路人夾一筆你抓到共諜你要去跟總統府的幕僚比我要跟你講今天涉及的這個所謂的共諜案的總統府的辦公室之一吳尚宇還有我們這個吳釗燮的幕僚何仁傑我想請問你們他們是公務員嗎是正式的公務員嗎這種回答要出來吧 |
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是不是方便由考試院或人總來做一個說明可以啊 沒關係 有單位說明就好來 有在嗎 人總我也好是嗎 他們是考國家考試進來的公務員嗎 |
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委員您剛問的是吳尚宇啊他們是聘用人員答對了聘用人員是依照聘用條例經用所以不是依據任用法經用的人員非常好你看我們的人事人總回答得多清楚來請回謝謝你副局長我跟你講這個其實不用人總回啦你不可能不知道你們如果連這個都沒有掌握我就覺得會有一點小遺憾但是沒有關係啦我要先講一件事情 |
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這些人其實都是從民進黨帶來的機要有時候我都覺得對我們現在公務單位有時候他們還是間接被連累感覺好像總統府被滲透 國安會被滲透不是 抱歉是賴清德的幕僚被滲透是吳釗燮的政治機要幕僚被滲透因為他們都是聘用的都不是文官系統出來的 |
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所以我回頭講最後要講一件事情啦就是說基本上我當然支持啊你今天好好查辦所有的共諜但是另外一方面我也真的非常感慨啦我剛剛前面講了很多東西不管是罷免不管是對在野黨黨部的搜索這種所謂大殺四方的總統我只在賴清德身上看見以上 謝謝 |