| IVOD_ID |
160934 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160934 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-02 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-3-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第10次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第10次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-02T14:31:12+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-02T14:47:39+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:16:27 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a4532f731e18a3f679dd5ced960be3e6d65e820d1de88fa5fccb33935b9f5bfca4760fc26950f44b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
徐富癸 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:31:12 - 14:47:39 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-02T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第10次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。二、5月2日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、5月6日下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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謝謝主席 有請我們左院長跟交通部陳部長麻煩請左院長交通部長備詢薛文豪院長 部長 午安 |
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我想這個我知道院長跟部長也很喜歡屏東常去屏東是我想屏東對很多人來講是過去這個學生畢業旅行的首選那也是過去這個談戀愛結婚度蜜月的首選那這個很多長輩 |
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這些懷念過去以前年輕時候也會常常去屏東也是首選所以屏東對我來講我來自國境之南我想屏東的發展也是很多我們鄉親的期待也是一個情感的所在 |
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那過去我想我們一直在關切我們屏東的重大的交通建設那在這邊我特別感謝我們從蔡英文總統賴清德總統我們陳建仁副院長還有蘇貞昌院長甚至我們現在主委院長給予屏東的建設最多的一個支持跟力道那我想在這個 |
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屏東的發展過程裡面因為過去被定位成農業線所以其實很多的工商發展甚至產業的發展對我們實在是很不公平啦那我想隨著過去的重北侵染的一個策略那在我們賴總統上任之後我想院長這邊也特別有交代我們這個所有的部會我們朝著這個均衡台灣的一個目標來前進那部長我想院長我想我們在均衡台灣的這個過程裡面 |
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屏東的交通建設絕對是重中之重的建設部長跟院長同意嗎屏東尤其在我們那個時代啊一直是我們畢業旅行跟蜜月旅行的首選就是墾丁啊能夠到那個地方去絕對是人生一大樂事尤其是國境之南對我們來講那就一個有距離但是 |
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在台灣本國的領土裡面是一個有距離的美感的地方我覺得非常好那近年的發展我們希望讓它能夠更貼近國際跟觀光旅客能夠進去的一個地方所以很多的設施我覺得還要全面的提升 |
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那所以今天我特別要針對我們幾樣的交通建設部分要請院長跟部長大力來幫忙但是我先要提出一個很嚴重一個問題因為跟著隨著我們這個總預算跟財政劃分授之法的一個影響那當然我們現在很多 包含我們很多的行政首長跟我們很多鄉親都會問我一句話說 |
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富奎那到底我們的這個重大的交通建設的預算會不會因為這樣子藍白二砍預算受到影響甚至會延長到這個時程能不能請院長說明一下確實財政收支發放法新法的結果讓中央政府的財政能力受到極大極大的影響但是就行政院而言 |
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中央的建設尤其是中央跟地方一起的地方建設現在行政院正在思考用什麼方式將財政授資劃分法所造成的衝擊讓他降到最低我們就算咬緊牙關 |
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跟地方的配合還是要持續的讓它運作下去所以我們會認為需要地方多多的配合未來可能地方多增加一點負擔我不希望說延長期限的方式來完成是地方多調整一些負擔讓我們能在期限當中去完成這件工作 |
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我想建設不分藍綠不能說我開闢的這條道路做的這個橋樑都是讓綠營的人在走沒有這一回事啦我想這是全民為了全民建設是否全民的所以我想我們很遺憾看到國民黨跟民眾黨的委員在立法院一手砍預算一手要經費這實在是很惡劣的啦那我想我們也不希望這樣子的一個惡性的一個循環影響到 |
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我個人我是非常支持我們行政院的預算我們也希望行政院要給屏東最多最有力的一個支持所以期待我們未來這個藉由這個整個行政院團隊的合作我想給予屏東縣政府最大的一個力道一個給我們鄉親一個最多的一個支持那首先我想請教院長這個高鐵南演一直是屏東人的一個期待那過去在蘇貞昌前院長2019年就已經宣布了這個 |
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高鐵南延屏東的一個案子那也當時預定在2029年要完工但是後來隨著這個一個重新的一個調整規劃那我們後來採了一個左營的高雄的方案那時程總長是25.9公里 |
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那目前交通部給我們的訊息是預計在今年的8月要完成重規跟第一階段的環評那整個過程要到2039年才能夠通車那我想這個跟當時2029年已經差了10年院長您對這個時程您個人有什麼看法 |
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一個重大的地方建設都是累積而來的無論是在哪一個政黨執政當中無論當初提出的方案對現在來講是可行不可行還是有所改變都應該感謝前人所做的種種努力我們是集前人之智慧地方的反應財政的能力跟現在未來的發展我們現在選擇的高雄方案就必須全力的把它完成我們也希望在2027年的8月就能夠通過二次環評 |
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如果我們持續這樣來做的話會有一個騎乘目標的管理我們在交通部的規劃騎乘裡面有沒有加速的可能性 |
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報告委員 院長有特別交代一定要加速所以我們鐵道局也成立了工作的這個平台邀請地方政府大家一起來討論看怎麼樣把環評的時程讓它盡量能夠縮短包含用地取得應該都加快的進行對 包含用地取得我們都可以重疊一起來做所以我們並行來做的時候時間應該是可以縮短的不過我們的目標還是抓那個地方但是我們盡量來往前趕 |
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所以剛剛我看院長一直有特別關心到我今天帶了一張這個屏東到台北的高鐵車票我想這是所有屏東人的期待那這個上面有有他的車次有他的座位但差了一個時間差了一個東西院長有發現在哪裡嗎20XX年XX月XX日對我們期待這個就是一個通車的一個時間點所以我想在這邊 |
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藉由這張車票我想邀請院長跟部長未來趕快跟我們的鄉親一起坐這一班的一個高鐵讓所有的屏東人能夠享受交通平權的一個權益我把這張車票送給我們院長跟部長 |
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謝謝院長跟部長的支持第二個問題就針對捷運,目前屏東有臨編到 |
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林園這個捷運線那當然我知道我們包含交通部包含我們屏東縣政府跟高雄市政府大家一直都在努力在協調這樣的一個過程那這一條捷運線來講對屏東來講未來會往東港往新園往大鵬灣往林邊這是我們很重要的一個沿海鄉鎮一個交通的一個動線也是未來這個對大鵬灣觀光發展很重要的一個軸線那請教一下院長跟部長目前這個進度 |
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有沒有加快的可能性 |
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報告委員這個案子目前正在可行性評估當中也是屏東縣政府正在做那之前因為屏東縣政府跟高雄市政府針對整體的這個運量的並接有一些意見那目前已經兩府已經得到了共識零遠那邊石化區的部分我們一樣高價然後就是一車到底一樣都是用重運量的方式兩邊已經得到了共識那得到共識其實後續的這個進度就可以加快這個部分就是只要他們可行性研究做過來 |
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那交通部這邊會快速來審核並且協助後續的程序那另外這邊還是要特別再拜託院長那因為畢竟這個目前算起來我們這個地方政府的負擔大概要300多億啦這對我們縣政府是一個很沉重的負擔那當然這部分要請院長來支持我們中央能不能這個協助這個縣政府能夠增加一個分攤的一個比例這部分請院長這邊做說明一下因為這個地方政府還要去做 |
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我第三個是針對我們這個屏南的一個交通的建設部分 |
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那我想過去屏東的建設我們的這個不管是高速鐵路或者是高速公路甚至是鐵路建設遠遠落後我們西部的縣市所以屏東以前都說站不保水但是我想這幾年我們在民進黨執政之下我們都已經把這個進度逐步來趕上但是我還是要跟請院長幫忙目前我們全台鐵路雙軌化的比例 |
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已經高達9成5但是屏東屏南還有一部分還屬於一個單軌那這不影響不只影響到台鐵的排班甚至連民眾的通勤權都受到影響那尤其我們有些像訪寮車站兩邊的平交道因為過去常常造成交通事故甚至淹水的問題所以我們希望整個要高價化的一個進行那我知道我們 |
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這個交通部已經把這個案子已經送到行政院那我們希望盡快來核定能夠加快這個整個高價化的一個進行那另外針對我們橫春觀光鐵道我想這個院長這個也打火車的時候也特別喜歡屏東所以我想這個屏東的 |
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尤其濱南這一段的鐵道觀光是有所謂的一個觀光跟一個經濟的一個效益那這邊能不能請因為我們下禮拜一我們交通委員會也要到屏東來考察那這邊是不是請院長請部長這邊要特別來支持我們加快來處理好 報告委員這個部分我們交通部已經重啟要來研議這個案子了那我們會朝正面的方向來走 |
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那我們下禮拜我們再做進一步的討論那我想這個會期是本席來到立法院的第三個會期那我在這裡也有質詢過我們的院長關於我們屏南快速道路的一個進度那但是因為最近好像聽到好幾個這個完工的一個時間版本有點納悶有聽到2035年的那第二個會期聽到2039年 |
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最近有聽到我們在野黨的委員在質詢變成2030年到底哪一個時間點是正確的因為我們鄉親也很期待這一條平安快速道路這邊要跟院長報告一下這一條道路對我們恆春半島的鄉親來講不是只有一個交通便利的道路而是一個救命路過去我們往往很多因為一些醫療的急重症必須要往北送的時候往往因為過去平安公路的塞車 |
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造成擁捨那很多人這個不幸就會在這個平和公路上面那藉由這個平南快速道路完工之後我想可以大幅縮減這個通勤的時間那請教一下院長部長目前的進度我們這個進度到哪裡 |
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歐元總經費達到1700多億如果從單點來做會很慢所以交通部現在是決定分段來實施會加快它的速度那change的時間應該是2030年是一個目標部長在座確定說明 |
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是 報告委員因為整段其實比較長而且經費非常大那我之前跟委員在屏東看的時候我們其實有討論過如果我們來分段來做就是說比較急迫而且容易做的那個路段我們先來做因為整個屏南其實是相當長的一個區域那如果你可以解決掉其中的哪一段其實對整個屏南的鄉親來講幫助就會很大所以如果分段做我們速度就可以加快 |
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因為我去年我也邀了交通部跟環境部都在我辦公室有協調過那我當時我就是建議要分段施工那應該把最庸塞從仿寮段到封港段這段因為剛好銜接台九線台東過來的車流量那段應該是最庸塞的地段應該是列為優先處理的一個部分所以這部分也請院長一定要支持我們跨部會趕快來整合一下加快啟程 |
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那一樣我們下禮拜考察的時候再請部長再做一個詳細的說明 |
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那另外下一個議題就是院長我們3月1號你有到屏東來視察嘛那我們也關心這個高屏二塊的這個進度那當時因為包含我們高雄有好幾位委員跟我們都一起來建議這部分希望能夠加快來進行那院長我記得當時應該是明年可以動工那目前這個氣場有沒有變化原來送來的原來的 |
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這個方案當中他是116年要動工我是告訴部長說你如果送這個方案真的到行政院我會把它退回去我會把它改成希望你115年所以他們經過調整之後交通部也非常的努力公路局也非常的努力他們現在初步的決定能夠在115年的10月就能夠動工我們朝這個目標我會緊盯這個目標前進 |
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這幾條交通建設都是屏東重中之重的建設那也特別謝謝院長跟部長的大力支持那我想我們所有的鄉親都在期待這幾條交通建設的一個陸續的完工那帶動屏東整個的發展那最後我想還是有一個很語重心長的問題要跟請院長跟部長幫忙就是我們的觀光那誠如剛剛院長跟部長講 |
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這個過去屏東墾丁也好大鵬也好是很多人美好的一個記憶但這幾年因為這個BOT退場甚至這個墾丁觀光被污名化的很嚴重那所以造成這個消費大家都愛啦愛到不知道怎麼說那所以我想行政院有一個跨部會的一個資訊 |
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希望院長做實際的跨部委員會 包含內政部 國家公務組 交通部 縣政府大家跨部會能夠針對未來的行政運動 甚至可以做簡潔的規劃有錢的規劃 能夠有不一樣的成績 |
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好 謝謝好 謝謝徐副委員的指示 |