| IVOD_ID |
160865 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160865 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-26-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-01T10:43:23+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-01T10:55:12+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:49 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/872e8bbe37846fc03357def56a465420f84b180731b6d6415144d4d67ecd09c13f1c478c5b52ad615ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
莊瑞雄 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:43:23 - 10:55:12 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：審查
一、委員王育敏等18人擬具「病人自主權利法部分條文修正草案」案。
二、委員劉建國等16人擬具「病人自主權利法部分條文修正草案」案。
三、委員邱志偉等19人擬具「病人自主權利法第八條、第九條及第十五條條文修正草案」案。
【僅詢答】
【4月30日及5月1日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝趙偉面對事實就活起來了請衛福部邱部長還有我們趙副司副司長來 |
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還有請我們石崇良署長委員好部長好柏中是你算這兩天我都給你額漏了你知不知道每次問我說會額漏部長怎麼樣我說這個 |
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有學術的經驗 做到高雄 還有台灣大學 還有東京大學 還有哲學立法院我最主要是勇於認識 為人誠懇所以我不要跟他說是財是所 意思是我給你按讚這樣就對了 但是我的問題就是你下去沒有特色 |
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我昨天練書練到兩點因為針對今天委員的垂行重點都是我們國家的重要方向我必須要來拜讀我給你推薦一本很好讀的 學問有夠讚叫做核廢料蘭嶼儲存場設置真相調查報告書一本寫的 |
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這差不多六十三頁調查報告書六十三頁然後附件加一加一共是七百四十六頁我一禮拜齁我一禮拜都把它拆掉了我從第一頁到最後一頁都把它拆掉了連附件我都看連我辦公室都看 |
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那我今天本席要來跟你就教的就是說啊倒也不是醫院的硬體的一個建設啦是在講說蘭嶼的醫療這個嚴重的不足這應該柏中你也應該都知道啦我來跟你講一個故事啦就是說 |
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民國60年 1971年的時候核一廠動工那時候動工之後 叫你說你就有一些核廢料會造出來所以那個時候就評估五種核廢料儲存方式第一款叫做 |
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廢礦坑 後來就去找 找到金瓜石但是呢 礦坑太潮濕 居民會使用礦坑的水源所以打岔就沒用第二種就是舊日均地下屯殯地 台中結果呢 那個深度 地面大概二十公尺而已那坑道狹窄 汽車也沒有在裡面運作 所以又打岔 |
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第三個就新竹 想要放大清水下來啊 但是交通不方便 又打岔第四個呢 東沙島 是要投海 海拋還是啦 離菲律賓120公里而已 走那邊就趕走啦走國際 國際 欸我你還笑 我要跟你講這個啊 但是喔 來了 重點來了 設在離島 蘭嶼跟澎湖等14個方案 |
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我可以說的是,沒有啦,蘭嶼有夠衰啦因為它離本島最近,還有港口還有紅酒,最主要成本最低所以它就中獎了,蘭嶼就中獎了所以我要跟部長說明的就是說在蘭嶼如果蓋一間便宜,那不是叫做選項啦 |
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那叫做政府的責任1971年到現在 你看這麼久時間過了2018年 2016年 我看蔡總統 這個以前很聽你的 |
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跟蘭嶼人道歉2018年核廢料蘭嶼儲存場的設置真相調查報告書就是我建議的一本書出爐同年也提供給住在蘭嶼的居民一些健檢當然政府階段也有補充一些我給你看下一頁這歷史研究給你看一下就是在2019年的時候 |
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原民會那時候就照一本書所以我是怎麼叫部長你要去看現在跟你說的都不用說什麼對一個總統對一個總統都官方的文件那時候就說要不然來建議提升叫做分院 |
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那部立台東區分院就對了 就是說這裡要設一個病院再來就開始台東的衛生局就開始去協調要怎麼用地然後呢 再來2022年就開始說 原民會跟台東縣政府來協調原民保留地要怎麼整修 連監察院後來也去了 |
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我這裡有一張 監察院去做什麼 你知道嗎監察院調查主管機關就蘭嶼達沃族人權益維護的重大建設政策規劃跟執行是否投資的時候去履刊啦 履刊要做什麼 你知道嗎醫院設置的問題啊從頭到尾都在講說蘭嶼就是要設醫院啦這都要收錢 你知道嗎 我想要叫石崇亮署長你起來 董事長你就是署長嘛 |
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蘭嶼就是要設分院嘛這有什麼好講的有什麼好爭辯的我現在要講的就是說以前國民黨夭壽國民黨以前真的很夭壽要放十萬趟 |
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我2011年我背小英 蔡英文總統去蘭嶼啦我去看到的現場慘不忍睹啦以前有人騙說要去罐頭工廠說去下去後 齁 青年就就業結果有去罐頭工廠嗎 有大咖的罐頭 55高輪的 都放合會了不對 你可能不記得齁 |
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我就說你要去因為你叫做衛福部部長我覺得你要去要去看一下說當年的政府怎麼去讀讀不然莫名其妙2018年蔡英文不會去道歉嘛不是啦 做總統後面道歉的就是說當初要去這個蘭嶼要放這個核廢料儲存場沒有蘭嶼的人知道 人家騙那產生的是什麼 |
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你如果說要顧老百姓的健康就很簡單啊藍瑜那個核肺療藏你給他刷照啊可不可能 不可能啊十萬趟要刷一堆第二天就是 啊沒有人刷照啊可不可能 啊也不可能啊兩種都不可能那怎麼辦那這政府的責任就來囉你來人顧健康嘛 |
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我就不管說什麼蔡英文有沒有承諾什麼賴清德總統有沒有承諾 兩件事政府就是該做不你合理吧 你特赤人嘛那個石中梁署長我這樣講合理吧合理喔 你也頂頭啊 欸 趙復師合理喔 你們都說合理喔你們就互相在推啦那些小外星人喔 叫做你趙復師的啦 |
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我們如果去賓夷之後,他有位的啦,他們就撒來撒去啦所以我具體要求啦,保證,盡量訂案啦盡量齁,你們整個新建計劃盡量出來,匡列預算啦稍微對不起,王委員,我不是我結東,我要講這個歷史這件事情要講得清楚你譬如說齁,我講我們屏東就好了,我們過去屏東,好東西 |
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蔡英文都要 總統都要屏東 蘇貞昌院長也要屏東我覺得各個縣市去照顧 全國都照顧 合理你說賴總統現在在說健康台灣對不對偏鄉醫療你要提升啊我記錄給你聽啦我們屏東隆總 屏東隆總喔 開九十四億去二岸齁屏東部立醫院 開三十六億 |
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去好了嘛 現在在去嘛屏東旅遊醫院去電館八樓 第二席一樓蘇貞昌院長怎麼說 你知不知道一室大會 要人給人 要錢給錢經費無上限我沒跟你說 我沒說 你看Google你去Google 蘇貞昌經費無上限台東勒 |
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過去政府的不當的政策 荼毒整個蘭嶼我們不用騎個便宜的人所以我現在不是在說 蓋醫院是不是選項 不是我講的是 在蘭嶼蓋醫院是叫做責任而且無可推卸的一個責任啊你只能在那裡討論在那裡討論來討論去 上來上去快去啦 |
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醫護會不是這樣說?你不是要站起來幫我扯一下而已嗎?你不是要站起來幫我倒倒的嗎?據理承諾的嗎?醫護會要去報告,報告現在的進度啦沒有沒有,我又不要提進度這叫責任我請部長據理承諾 |
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好,我想我們醫護會因為當時是土地的問題,也沒有三來三去因為從108年其實在部內裡面就一直討論醫院的一個興建的一個計畫去評估然後土地當時是有問題的譬如說原來的土地,那裡說不可以,那是森林所在的地我們就往外面去別的地方,大量管政部在找當然現在有些地方看起來已經克服的差不多 |
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都扣有差不多沒問題的嘛我們現在就是今天要提一個醫院的新鮮的計畫來提公鮮計畫在這當中我們也一直在補充補充應該有的量能啦今年創的開備啦 |
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新建計畫計畫書幾個月內因為現在那個我們15筆土地裡面上面就是有2筆是被佔用的啦另外這些土地其實是還需要我不跟你 佔用那是什麼去排除 我說你的新建計畫我現在跟你說新建計畫 我跟你說你不給他具體答案 待會蒼蠅給你問得越嚴重 我不給你騙 |
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因為我們還是需要跟地方在這邊需要它的量比如說它的衛生索你告訴我 時間要當時我不敢 藍瑜在那裡 我不敢提陳映萌但是我自己做 我對台東的關心可以嘛你屏東旅遊醫院 人家這樣開始去去白樓 怕卡住去白樓 三年六個月 |
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去八樓 燈館八樓 地下一樓 開一個515你這裡要去多大 要三樓嗎三樓而已耶屏東旅遊院是137個床位耶你這裡要幾個床位不會超過40個吧好 那個細節是不是我簡單問你嘛 我要突顯出來嘛我要突顯出來嘛 你這裡幾個床位37吧 30幾吧 |
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你的三十幾屏東旅遊醫院137個蓋地上八樓地下一樓三年半五年五年你這個比較有貴貴賺錢啦具體承諾不定好不好今年新建計劃提出來好好好可以喔你自己說的喔待會請問你幾位要出來我來講謝謝好謝謝莊瑞雄委員的質詢接下來 |