| IVOD_ID |
160863 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160863 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-01T10:37:45+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-01T10:47:16+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:31 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/872e8bbe37846fc084a9c97ee3195d9f4de01e9c6ce952975d77c67688655a42e7f4644ce7aaae0d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:37:45 - 10:47:16 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：審查：
一、本院委員魯明哲等 19 人擬具「再生能源發展條例第十三條條文修正草案」案。
二、本院委員謝衣鳯等 17人擬具「再生能源發展條例第十三條條文修正草案」案。
【4月30日及5月1日二天一次會】） |
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好 謝謝主席 我們先請經濟部郭部長郭部長委員好部長好 部長那個非核家園對我而言不只是一個理念也是一個信仰 更是法律規定 |
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這不是任何一個黨的一個目標 或是一個黨的一個理念而是一個國家法律規定 我有什麼要講 環境基本法23條政府應制定計畫逐步達成非核家園 知道了嗎知道了嗎 是所以這是一個法律規定那現在大家都討論說核酸要研議 |
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您個人我先問一個背景問題好了未來十年台灣缺電的可能性有多大未來十年我大概我們討論過了到2032年 |
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2032就是未來7年目前的設施啦跟可以上來的2032年絕對沒有問題絕對不會有缺電的任何可能性這可能性趨近於零對不對我們不能說100%這可能性趨近於零嘛是這樣子嗎 |
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這個我們也就是說到2032年是絕對沒有問題那你要講到2035年後面那個三年我說2032年就為七年之內沒有缺電的問題沒有缺電的問題那你2032之後呢它那個包括再生能源 |
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包括這個LNG 燃氣各種的這個再生能源都會慢慢的 比例會越來越高 對不對是 我們需要投資的一定會降低嘛 那也是我們目標所以這種情況之下2032年之內 你說2032這7年之內絕對沒有缺電的問題 對不對2032更沒有缺電的問題因為再生能源全部補上來了 |
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我們現在是這樣報告委員我們現在是再生能源我們是這樣到2030年我們所有的多元的電能裡面再生能源會從明年的20%到2030年的時候我們會升到30%也就是說再生能源增加主要是因為台灣的業者他需要綠色的能源 |
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他需要綠色的能源基於這個綠色能源 所以我們的再生能源會來到30%2030就30%我們明年要讓這個再生能源來到20%這就是屬於綠色能源所以您這麼贊成 我請教您 您這麼贊成核三營業呢您這麼贊成 |
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我現在是經濟部長我是依法行事啦如果法令規定這個原意現在法令還沒有修嘛有政黨 |
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有個人有立法委員有縣市所長希望核三原議我想請教您個人的意見您贊成核三原議嗎核三原議有三個原則啦三個原則啦就是安全無力成本時間嘛權源有共識核廢料可以處理如果這三個原則可以大家都可以同意的話我就去執行所以你有前提的支持 |
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有條件的支持不是支持我是執行執行我有經濟部長嘛我個人看法你這三個條件這三個條件基本上都沒有辦法有共識你說核廢料這些主張要核三要研議的或者要重啟核能的 |
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哪一個縣市所長哪一個立法委員哪一個民意代表他敢說他核廢掉放在我的選區放在我的縣市你有聽過有這樣的縣市所長有這樣的國會議員嗎他們有曾經表態過嗎沒有嘛對不對他說要支持核三要延誼核三要延誼你核廢掉要放在以零為貨嘛你知道我意思嗎 |
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你敢說要核酸研疫,好,研疫你給我處理,放在我這裡管治,放在我的山谷,有人這樣說嗎?沒有人敢這樣說嘛。這樣就是政客,不管是管治長,或是任何政治人物啊,你的言行要一致啊。我看到這個,真讓人很煩惱,就是說政治人物言而無信。 |
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現在我不說 過去說的 哇 這個聲勢力竭 現在就全面反對過去是全力贊同的 現在是全面反對你看他很多這種人所以喔 我是覺得河山這個問題啊 你要有立場我覺得你剛剛說的是你的立場 三個條件社會共識 對不對 安全嘛 另外核廢料可以處理嘛 |
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我這個是非常高的門檻這個不可能完整這個滿足是三項條件所以我可不可以再解讀你不支持河山演繹我還是依照這個三個原則在處理啦因為我是這個公務同仁我們的公務同仁也必須要依法依規然後來執行這些事情你是行政部門主管你當然要有的 |
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經濟部主管你要有一定的立場你要有一定的態度沒有我就是執行行政院的命令行政院的命令是什麼對你修法還沒有修法但是你行政院也要有態度一樣這個不管有修法沒修法我就執行行政院的命令我個人只要我在立法院我覺得是堅決反對堅決反對 |
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413.767 |
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而且我覺得這是國家法律規定,不是個人信仰,不是政黨的目標另外漢祥是國家隊,漢祥也是經濟部所屬漢祥跟中科院有一些合約糾紛,我覺得部裡面要來處理一下 |
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415.512 |
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441.948 |
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他那個關鍵的系統件沒有辦法交貨的原因當然不能規則於漢祥不能規則於漢祥所以因為全球產業鏈供應鏈中斷不可抗力因素而不是公司的個人管理的問題所以這樣中科業要給他發10.9億十幾億 十幾億對公司造成很大的影響經濟部主管的漢祥也是漢祥國家隊的隊長 |
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445.162 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
472.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
這樣 我覺得喔 應該要跨部會協調不然你要了解 要跟國防部合作因為中科院 中科院應該是國防部吧你要了解這件事情 那你來合作幫我安詳這個問題好 我們來進行另外 過去有個施政農董事長啊其實在我的三國興大港 去一個海洋科學園區這部分啊 我最了解沒人比我更了解 我每天在那 |
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474.879 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
496.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
所以海洋科學園區 這是他個人的想法那我是覺得新達海基要轉型 沒行李嘛 沒調端嘛 所以要專行那地還放在那 蝦皮都在那 蚯蚓都在那那十幾公斤 二十公斤 地還有地 |
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501.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
527.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
我曾經請這個經濟部產業園區管理區召開這個會議我說三米洋很重要特別是針對這個海洋產業海洋科技海洋產業的科學園區很重要所以剛好這個機會新的海地可以轉型那沒有腹地又可以帶動地方的發展地方又有需求 |
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528.632 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
550.294 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
又可以帶動協定湖內的發展所以我剛剛這個要大力促成因為我的爭取之下包括北高雄產業園區包括白浦產業園區包括未來的鹿竹產業園區如果不是在那邊質詢這個三個園區不會從天上掉下來不會現在運行一定任何產業園區一定要大力爭取 |
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550.914 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
566.805 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
所以我未來希望說海洋科學 海洋產業園區啊能夠在這邊落腳順便以協助新南海地的轉型我們朝這個方向來研議你們要有失聲表那進度要控管一下好 謝謝 |