| IVOD_ID |
160848 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160848 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-36-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
14 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-01T09:11:26+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-01T09:26:42+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:16 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/872e8bbe37846fc09ff47acb371395c92ae3c352587f869505daebae4db85f915e1aacc5385281515ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王義川 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:11:26 - 09:26:42 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第14次全體委員會議（事由：邀請立法院秘書長、議事處處長、法制局局長列席就「防止立法院成為國安破口─避免共諜滲透、機敏資訊洩漏等國安事件之防制措施」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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不過來是遷就而已,我們這沒人收入的,要緊整理時間沒人來,隨他講好,謝謝召委,我們請那個周萬萊秘書長 |
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沒來啦 你就滴啊好 沒關係這個自從韓國瑜當了立法院院長以後啊這個原本訂好的議事規則不管是周萬來寫的書啊國家考試啊考試院不管考什麼題目啊現在這切全部都要寫例外萬來有一個規則 |
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現在都要改作例外情形我認同國家科企科立法院相關的規則的時候可能大家考生都要寫 以上寫完 但是發生過例外這樣搞得算完整這次召委排了三天的會這些題目看起來有漂亮嗎 題目有漂亮嗎我講你不要把我打斷 |
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這些題目看起來都還蠻中性的第一天白上第一天白立法院的資安要怎麼處理因為我們的各個行政機關從行政院開始到各縣市政府各級機關都有資安問題 |
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這樣就請立法院包括相關的人員 秘書長 所有相關的同仁一起來跟大家說明一下立法院的治安第二個題目叫做立法院院區的空間 議事的空間 |
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這當然牽扯到立法院要拔除或是要去其他的縣區要刷去台中、武鴻、澳洲 要刷去哪裡 刷去哪裡這些也可以討論請秘書長針對現在規劃的情形來報告也不來 這第二題第三題就要問說立法院很多的議事規則譬如說聽各位開一刀火 |
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這個明明開會時間已經定好,到下午的六點,六點一到大家就解散了嘛,慣例就是這樣嘛,六點一到大家就解散了韓國瑜院長進來我就這樣七點十一開始開會,然後處理相關的議案 |
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總是大家問說這是慣例嗎?這個如果符合議事規則,那以後這個就是慣例喔那如果是慣例的話,那以後可能不只這個立法院的院長、副院長,比如說這個 |
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莊瑞雄召委,林耕英做召委,或是我做召委開會說今天開到5點半,我6點就12點來處理議案這是不是我們被管理,這也希望立法院的秘書長來跟我們說明一下,議事處長來說明一下來,每個人來今天要的題目 |
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說立法院也有可能成為國安的破口嘛因為裡面有立法委員啊有國會助理啊有立法院的議事人員啊很多人都會接觸到所謂的國安的這個文件裡頭可能是有機密的我們今天有寫一個密的開會的時候啊這個機密會議最之前啊這禮拜有一個會叫做不公開會議 |
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有一個公開會議 機密會議 還有一個假鬧的 發明一個叫做不公開會議那到底是不是機密會議 總是大家可以問一下那這些題目啊 其實都還蠻中性的因為我們昨晚來秘書長啊 韓國瑜拚來當秘書長的時候吼 明天啊 把他抄大告 惡惡告 |
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什麼在活字典,什麼立法委員、國會助理,如果沒有把他寫的文章都不會開花。好,現在大家來了,很認真把他寫,要來做國會助理的,大家手頭都一本,大家來議事處理到一半,不知道就拿一本給我看看。 |
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我們這佛寺殿有跟我們說什麼嗎?阿董事就這樣抄大到多厚多厚歷經多少院長,對什麼開始做什麼都罰什麼草野協商都罰,義士過去的爭議什麼都罰俄羅斯給他打字 |
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後來當時奇怪的, 韓國的做議長之後, 整個立法院開會都早晨,沒有叫幾個來走,在立法院職權行司法、憲法、訴訟法、選罷法,不管是議事程序,還是法律的解說,昨晚來講的,有個另外一套,這樣韓國的老闆說什麼? |
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韓國瑜如果坐在那裡,昨晚如果跟他說怎麼樣,他就怎麼樣我們議事處長說繼續唸,繼續唸,把他唸完,韓國瑜就把他唸完先韓國瑜不義,韓國瑜就聽兵這幾個一直跟他說,一直獨自調依,一直唸,一直唸,一直唸搞到現在立法院到底開花的規則是什麼,我們也搞不清楚 |
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所以我們召委就用心良苦,想說一天不夠,不如請秘書長來讓我們問三天不敢逮捕大家,深入探討一下,不可以來,不可以來也很出名的你如果不可以來,我六種方式,一種你就要親家嘛,親家也很多方式 |
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請教一般一開始都要先靠一個電話,跟趙薇說,就另有要講什麼如何如何,不可以來,我要加單,跟金寶來第二種,為了電話沒要靠就一條,加一條公文來,我就沒辦法來不然就是把整季出來說,這就如何如何,所以照過去幾十年來的慣例,我就興奮上,沒辦法去,所以如何如何 |
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可是我們這裏的秘書長,這些動作都沒有做都沒有做,書面的文件都沒有,端端的不可以來,還有請韓國的寫一張文情並茂,還有燙金的什麼,那也不是叫請假單,那也不是什麼單,像現在還有一張抓來,這裏沒有人,這裏人一張抓就沒有 |
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這次就是發動媒體,叫媒體跟各位委員說,我沒有要去就算是小白,昨晚來這種就算是小白啦,大型啦小白啦,大型啦,當作自己多厲害,剛多厲害啦我要說啦,那個什麼新聞局啦,那個什麼湯津的那個長大啦那絕對不是韓國的事啦,韓國還不夠多 |
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那些人早晚來自己寫的啦 自己提自己寫說不可以來的理由啦像這種的 在書上都會記載的 會記載那些缺席的像莊瑞雄早晚擺這個廢料 除了這個早晚來沒來 創下紀錄一番你這樣三天沒到黃國昌三天沒有登記發言 |
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這如果算出席率就對了 該委員會出席率 黃國昌是缺席三次欸 你們這抄什麼給我看好黃國昌有三天沒有來開會 簽到完就跑了簽到完就跑 黃國昌有三天 簽完到就跑了沒有登記發言 第一次看到黃國昌會怕 不敢來發言 為什麼 |
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為什麼 因為現在北蘭的人說的就糾正了嘛就靠你們說都不可以來 不可以來 還要顧名叼義 還要來遷到 |
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你們白臘娘娘在這個會不能叫祖母奶奶 你們千刀就不可以 又沽名釣譽好 叫我會議紀錄頂管 沒我們的名字 哎呦 當個酸民的我們在廠裡說 國產老師怎麼沒有去開會 國產老師怎麼沒有去開會啊 過去 頂記了 快來鬧跑 怎麼沒有登記發言 |
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為什麼沒有登記花園啊王國昌你為什麼三天都沒有登記花園啊你給他唱啊 講啊那你如果不登記 你為什麼還簽到你為什麼還簽到 顧名釣譽啦顧名釣譽啦 他要過一個月才說我哪有沒有人去 我覺得人家有簽到對啊你有簽到啊但是連登記花園都沒有啊這個都是喔 因為週末來沒辦法來演化的後續的這個效果 |
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因為這個出來的這個效果好,但是說昨晚來不來,不來請教連書面資料也不給連書面資料也不給今天說這個立法院領綱的議事空間是要怎麼處理是不是有這個簽證啊什麼的計畫嘛這個案子很久了,很久了 |
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阿目前的進度是怎樣阿昨晚來也來做一年多阿韓國的也做一年多做一年多阿目前進度是怎樣連一張帳都不該跟人家說連一個進度都不跟國人說明這是傲慢傲慢啦 漂白啦 大型啦就是這樣第二個 |
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大家問說立法院有國安破口 立法院有沒有國安的機制啊防止這個破口 不管是資安的破口 人員啊可能涉及的這個國安相關的這個破口那你懷疑這陣子也有回到這個情形嗎 |
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總是做一個立法院的行政單位包括秘書長、資訊相關的單位、副執行總是要來替大家報告一下說現在立法院要處理國安的問題、資安的問題現在到底我們做了什麼樣的努力沒有,連一張座也沒有 |
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不要請教,不給書面資料,也不跟召委商量一下,說我怎麼樣就怎麼樣,怎麼樣就怎麼樣,沒辦法怎麼樣,怎麼樣也沒有這如果成為慣例,以後我們的行政部門,醫療就對了行政院長,也一樣如法炮製,衝一場燙金的端來 |
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我還要講喔 臨江啊 我們這什麼內政部長不可以去我們這交通部長不可以去 我也不可以去 我們就都不可以去 啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊 |
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後來把吳宗憲召委擺的議程請司法院的副秘書長來司法院的副秘書長來如果司法院一樣發一個公文來說不好意思比照辦理立法院秘書長不出席我司法院的副秘書長也不出席我的總統府以後也不要出席 |
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那請問禮拜一 我就看禮拜一吳宗憲要怎麼主持看禮拜一吳宗憲要怎麼主持 |
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你國民黨做招委,你就要求這行政部門的秘書長、副秘書長都要來,如果不要來就在叭叭叫,黨議黨的口水噴,整個麥克風都熄,都在咆哮 |
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啊 你們香港的領導的立法院 昨晚來 立法院秘書站不該來齁 你們這樣幾天 顧名釣譽 命沉沉地繞跑不敢登記花園 不敢做任何的抨擊啊 想這種的感冒喔 這抄襪牆 你們也看一看啊 你們民眾黨的 都在點點 都可以不要來齁 黃國昌缺席三次 蹺課 |
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蹺課!蹺課!這樣沒有人會這樣啦這招委喔,白哲文也很辛苦,我一天7塊就招委,白哲這個帝寶我想說,這帝寶也很中性的你來就說明,沒得說明就叫車旁邊的處長什麼議事處長,什麼處長來倒過也可以啊 |
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都不要來,沒有來跟你譴責是剛好而已所以今天去啦,當然我對面這個周恩來秘書長今天是沒有來啦啊沒有來,我們說實在的,沒有來,我們也沒有辦法逼他來啦我們這個周圍算客氣啦,你看人家後來拜日吳宗憲面對有人沒有來,人家的態度是怎樣 |
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對不對 你是跟資深衝突得好啊 你如果吳宗憲處理這條就沒什麼用了我就看吳宗憲後來拜他 有辦法像我們這個莊瑞相遭的 劈起劍以後 再做到他娓娓道來 |
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說一些成語好,我今天就質詢到這裡就請趙偉安排這三天的議程終於讓我在第三天有講到話了好,謝謝趙偉好,謝謝王一川委員 |