| IVOD_ID |
160832 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160832 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-23-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-30T13:10:49+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-30T13:20:48+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:59 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/b6da7da99b9423694ec63e2ba2f3dc67385a4fd0f0fffa493679622006e3328bc1ddeb1cac72fbc55ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:10:49 - 13:20:48 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：邀請交通部部長陳世凱、交通部民用航空局局長何淑萍、交通部鐵道局局長楊正君、國營臺灣鐵路股份有限公司代理董事長伍勝園、台灣高速鐵路股份有限公司董事長鄭光遠、中華航空股份有限公司董事長高星潢及國家運輸安全調查委員會率所屬相關單位列席就「近期我國航空、鐵路運營安全事件之檢討與改善及臺鐵票價調整方案」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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好 謝主席有請交通部陳部長民航局何局長好 交通部陳部長還有民航局何局長華航高董事長好 華航高董事長 |
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第一個問題想請教三位上個會期就是十月份曾經質詢針對高雄小港機場是不是用charter的方式能夠飛歐美用charter然後我希望說你們在今年的暑假charter可以正式來上路結果你們回答給我什麼毫無用心你們回答的內容我不曉得是回的是民航局回的還是華航回的還是交通部回的 |
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完全是模糊空泛虛隱故事然後沒有回答我問題的核心也沒有任何承諾完全忽略這個南部人的這個旅行的權益我問局長這個330可以降777能不能降可以787能不能降可以350能不能降 |
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三八零能不能降?不行好 三八零例外啦三八零在桃園也比較少所有機型 當然機型 非歐美都可以降我請你非評估 非一個charter你給我虛運故事 給我良知就說明你完全不重視南台灣的旅客的權益嘛我不相信說 華航沒有這個運能 |
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我們的南部從高雄這個屏東嘉義還有有時候都要往桃園一到早的這個高鐵還趕不上還要提早一點去過夜你如果有charter你試看看運能怎麼樣嘛你連charter你都不願意去試何議長你的答覆是什麼 |
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這個其實我們這個議題已經跟華航長榮新宇已經多次溝通可是他們對於這個部分其實還是你們要有一些你們要主管機關你們要有政策性的引導嘛第一個他在乎成本第二個在乎他的運能第三個他有沒有相關的這個飛行機可以飛航東南亞那麼多轉機客我不相信沒有客源 |
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我不是叫你做這個Routine航班勒是用Chart勒 你連Chart勒你都不願意試那高同事長 那個名堂局找你談過幾次這段我不是那麼的清楚 但是我真的沒有運能我的飛機真的是不夠的桃園可以增加 松山可以增加 為什麼南部不能增加你做這個宏觀調控嘛沒有說旗下運能你可以增加 為什麼這個高雄不能增加 沒有這個道理嘛 |
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你這完全沒有重視南部人這個旅行的權益部長你說說吧 部長 |
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現在華航的這個飛機確實是相對比較吃緊啦齁但是我們也是 您把他我來小港起降用chart先試飛看看看看結果怎麼樣 您所指示的齁我們要用政策引導這個我同意啦齁所以這個部分我們跟華航以外就是長榮的部分我知道長榮的這個運量運能比較有餘裕我們從成果來看啦我安全是原地踏步狗肺火車我是狗肺飛機啊不是狗肺火車我狗肺飛機啊 |
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難不成就當二等公民嗎你說沒有運能 運能是你們自己要去調控的民進黨局要負責 主管機關你要負責這個政策協調啊結果我質詢我質詢你 結果你兩點不到一百次就給我這種回顧這個我覺得民進黨局沒有負起該負的責任 |
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沒有善盡照顧南台灣這個民眾是搭機的權益南台灣變成二等公民部長你再說一下報告員我也覺得不應該給南台灣的民眾有這樣子的感覺所以民航局其實最近我也交代民航局要更努力的讓高雄機場的航班跟航線必須要增加那來考慮到說我們南部民眾的需求我們盡量短航程的部分我們快速增加 |
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長航程的部分我們想辦法來增加 長航程已經回到疫情大概百分之九十八 其實我們都密切注意啦我們要求是說不用坐收勞動 人家要坐高鐵然後我再到這個長航班對不對 那航班飛機又要大十五六個小時我要還要在對面前面過一夜如果我這個一早就可以去小環西港搭飛機 那不是很方便嗎對 所以我們要朝這個方向來努力但是你要有時間表 你要有具體的成果不是說你們努力 努力的結果就是原力踏步 |
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你要有一個明確時間表我是要求chart欸我不是叫你定期航班欸每次這個高雄相機問我說為什麼我們飛到桃園去為什麼桃園可以降這個大型的飛機為什麼不能降為什麼不能飛歐美你說聯航它也是經過成年轉那是小飛機啊那是轉機那跟新型的轉機是不是沒有什麼不一樣只是說它是同一家航空是轉機 |
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聯航是不是七月七月份不是 那沒有意義啊我從小港也可以到 到成田也可以搭其他航空公司轉機到歐美嘛 一樣的意思嘛是啊 是這個齁 這個 我要講齁有政府去做事 不是有政府會會 會虛擬故事有政府在做事不是在虛擬故事是來 這個 啊對不起 還有三十秒來 高鐵高鐵那個 |
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鄭董事長來我跟部長啊都常常我是每天搭高鐵我搭了13年的高鐵每天在高鐵上三個半小時你去過日本日本在高鐵上是禁止打一個行動電話 |
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你知道嗎這個我不曉得不管是高鐵或者是他們的公共運輸巴士都不能講行動電話他們也自我要求他們也沒有法律約束他們變成一個國民基本的素養不要太自恃 影響別人高鐵 日本的高鐵很多每一個共同的標準就是說你高鐵 你如果要講話 |
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第一個 你自己內部的自我限縮第二個 別人的這個壓力第三個 馬上有人去查處所以他最多只是在車間 車廂跟車廂中間有一個這個電話 這個打電話的一個小小的空間基本上在車廂裡面是禁止通電話的那現在是這樣子 雖然我們有廣播 有一些標示 |
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但是沒有嚴格的去取締 也沒有去宣導 只是用罐頭去宣導開擴音的 用視訊的 電話大聲講電話的 幾乎都是這樣在高鐵上面運行 你不能讓它忍耐幾分鐘 最多一個半小時 |
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你不要傷你不要損害到其他旅客的權益這個你如果短時間做不到你應該可以要求我們的這個呃乘務人員包括列師長加強對成功的宣導或者高密度的繼續繼續宣傳而不是在高鐵框廣播都是賣你們這個什麼這個什麼這個名產名產的什麼紀念品那個沒重要嘛 |
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我們現在有供應哪一個縣市的民產 外交莫屬第一個 安全性最重要 準時到第二個 不要過站不停第三個 服務品質 讓人家搭高鐵是一個很舒適的感覺 安全的感覺你不是要賣東西的所以我說 |
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可是鄭董事長你也在高利福很久你也到日本非常久的時間我知道日本人他們很重視這個別人的感受所以他絕對不會說電話在車廂裡面鄭董事長你會看我怎麼樣 |
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委員講的沒錯 我們希望說給提供車廂裡面一個安靜的環境事實上我們現在是沒有強制要求規定說在車廂裡面不能講電話但是我們都是希望大家都能夠盡量就不要在裡面講 |
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那尤其是說剛才委員提到的說開視訊啊或者是把那個speaker打開啦這個的話呢我們的這個組員看到一定被完全制止的那委員講的也是提醒我們我們會持續的朝這方面加強我們的巡檢我們列車長也好我們的服務人員 |
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那麼多這一方面的看 也許如果有看到這個有大聲講話的我們就一定會制止 我們主動會制止他們來維護我們這個行政權益不是 主動你更積極的去如何降低車廂裡面的噪音因為我們每天都要戴耳罩 都要戴耳塞因為那個已經對這個旅客的權益造成很嚴重的影響 |
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594.757 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
這個不能只宣導而已 不能柔性宣導而已要拿出更積極的作為能夠讓這個車廂吵鬧 車廂的噪音能夠降低好 謝謝 謝謝部長 |