| IVOD_ID |
160818 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160818 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-23-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-30T12:08:57+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-30T12:23:15+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:14:18 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/b6da7da99b94236963b981cd1fedc74d385a4fd0f0fffa4998ab4b80bc74e67d0a3ad233f9b498fc5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
魯明哲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:08:57 - 12:23:15 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：邀請交通部部長陳世凱、交通部民用航空局局長何淑萍、交通部鐵道局局長楊正君、國營臺灣鐵路股份有限公司代理董事長伍勝園、台灣高速鐵路股份有限公司董事長鄭光遠、中華航空股份有限公司董事長高星潢及國家運輸安全調查委員會率所屬相關單位列席就「近期我國航空、鐵路運營安全事件之檢討與改善及臺鐵票價調整方案」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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好 謝謝主席有請我們交通部陳部長好 交通部陳部長鐵道局楊局長好 鐵道局楊局長台鐵公司馮總好 馮總有到嗎台鐵 台鐵吳總吳董事長吳董事長 台鐵 台鐵嗎台鐵來 吳董事長吳董事長 台鐵公司本身沒來你就代表了有有有 台鐵公司 那個總經理也在啊還有總經理也有來 |
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沒有啦 不見啦 喔沒有好 進來 進來總經理來委員好好首先我們討論鐵道的一個安全啦當然除了這個軌道本身 鐵路本身之外我們整個戰區的安全也是整體安全之一啦那這個部分 |
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好幾個問題第一個部長電梯大概你可以撐幾分鐘關在裡面耐力有沒有測試過有沒有不小心被測試過 |
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沒有不小心被測試過但如果超過5分鐘我大概會蠻害怕我是覺得我最多10分鐘我會受不了5分鐘我覺得還是我覺得馮總經理你會不會比較容易因為台鐵訓練的關係大概在電梯裡面可以撐多久一般大概15分鐘應該就是好那4月19號發生了這個因為 |
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你在中壢站全台灣吞吐量第三大站而且你又在你的管制區內的電梯其實人經常是還滿滿的所以那種壓力比我們一般一個人兩個人在電梯裡面壓力是更大 |
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那我們現在的問題點是發生什麼事4月19號之後他按當時有這個通知所以他這個新聞是5天之後才做的然後記者是裡面沒有幾人他在測試結果在測試的過程中他測試結果說怎麼找不到人然後按照上面的電話去打 |
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打個電話說在開會下午一點打電話開會然後到四點了 三個小時啊到時候人還沒來還好是實驗啊 就演習啊可是回到四月十九號真正那天電梯裡面人是很多的然後按 |
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緊急對講機這個我們最後了解我們台鐵公司有人接喔有人的值班好像是副站長第一時間就走到電梯旁邊就跟他們對看對看可是對看沒什麼用嘛那 |
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發生什麼事就要請這個修電梯的來最後40分鐘40分鐘等他40分鐘真的是也沒有辦法在場的消防隊還是消防隊把他打開的所以我要拜託你們因為各地都有這樣的一個電梯而且你們包括還沒上台的這個高鐵都一樣那個人都很擁擠你們的SOP怎麼樣我不清楚後面疑問說我們的合約是一個小時以內要到我的天啊 |
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那不長五分鐘我就說十分鐘啦我跟你講喔 修電梯跟救人是完全兩件事完全不同的事情嘛所以我要拜託一下喔 你們SOP齁是不是 |
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你要救人一定要優先啊如果電梯要希望恢復正常如果你一個小時以內還可以接受所以那一天啊我想陳文哲副局長也在那邊就說我們有特別做了一個幾個建議啊說你們要回去研究那個總經理說一下研究結果能夠縮短到什麼時間救人救人 |
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報告委員我們現在目前廠商的時間我們已經縮短到30分鐘因為也是委員當場在現場會刊給我們一個指導要求那但是第一時間我們的這個對講機會連線我們的行車室我們第一時間我們值班副站長就一定會到這個電梯去關懷被受困的旅客 |
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那這個部分是回答委員剛才說這個時間的問題好第二個問題30分鐘事實上他到了那你們的合約啦我也沒辦法可是對於救人來講還是稍微長了一點所以我要拜託你第一個如果在電梯在正常的位置的時候我要拜託你們的工作人員 |
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因為很多機械都會嘛也要有一些值班人員對於簡單如果電梯沒有到定位一個樓層的定位那是誰也沒辦法啦說真的如果要到定位可以對到門我們是希望第一個我們在這個台鐵台鐵的各站要有人 |
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就能夠第一優先解決第二個呢消防隊到的也能夠讓他去做處理因為那天消防隊到說打電話給公司公司才說你不要碰我電梯啊這個這樣不行欸救人優先可不可以部長講一下你就救人優先吧你做個結論好不好 |
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當然是要救人優先,我的想法跟您一樣,就是說我們在站裡面的戰務人員有沒有這個基礎可以去處理的這個能力,這個部分其實是可以訓練的,可以讓他們有這樣子的能力,可以快速先來解決,不然對民眾來講,我即便看到你在窗外,但我出不去我心裡面會非常害怕,所以這個部分請台鐵公司趕快來落實。 |
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好的麻煩這個全國有相關情況都改善一下尤其它這個是四座電梯兩座是在外圍的行人也可以走是中壢區公所管理的內圍的是台鐵的所以這個部分麻煩你們要合作一下那接下來我們在台鐵的總體檢我們發覺已經大概兩千多天了六年半 |
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六年半 這從普悠瑪事件我們政府下定決心要給台鐵做一個總體檢那事實上解決了 你們也解決很多一個列管那現在為什麼在安全改革 總共16項但我比較care 安全改革到底發生什麼問題我們看右邊 因為你們總體檢要解除列管的流程第一個是台鐵先自己擬定改善計畫 |
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第二個呢你們成立一個安全管理這個委員會來做這個計畫的一個審查你知道嗎過去台鐵在交通部啊還沒成立公司的時候我覺得這合理啦那現在他公司化你知道嗎第一關也是台鐵 |
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然後審查台鐵報告的人雖然有外聘委員大概五到六位啦總共十幾位裡面他也是台鐵內部所以第一關台鐵提報告計畫第二關也是台鐵那整個弄好之後才有第三關解除列管部長你覺得這個程序在他們公式化之後要不要第二關給鐵道局還是誰你說一下吧 |
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是 報告委員過去的流程是這個樣子那現在改制公司化之後確實這個流程我們來做一下檢討有沒有可能稍微做改變或者是說合理性到底應該怎麼做會比較合理這個部分我認為是應該做檢討畢竟公司化之後跟過去的狀況是完全不一樣的現在的台鐵是公司它不像過去是公務機關它有一些公權力那目前的台鐵是公司不一定有這個公權力在這個部分我們來做檢討 |
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好 謝謝部長跟鐵道局你們研究一下啦因為第一個才剛寫完報告不管是機電什麼問題他寫完報告然後他又入列來審查這個 我是覺得有點奇怪那我們來看看安全管委會現在是在台鐵公司裡面雖然有部分的外聘委員討論一些結果 |
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當然我不知道會不會有以偏概全哇 你全部都做得很好100項99項都做好被魯明哲委員挑了一項會不會有這種情況我不清楚啊不過我們來看一下這個安全委員會你們台鐵也通過囉改善報告台鐵公司寫的然後自己審查覺得OK審查事項是什麼呢 |
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說希望能夠導入自動化跟智慧化系統用系統來簡化人力避免他們犯錯就是原本也沒有有一些系統希望能夠導入這個用詞很清楚然後簡化一些人力的疏失系統可以發現結果你們也通過安全管理委員會的一個審議我蠻佩服的台鐵公司提了三個方案 |
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導入自動化跟智慧化 是我沒看懂嗎第一 強化各單位人員現場實作的訓練沒有系統嘛第二 成立北中南東的員工訓練所弄四根教室出來 讓人可以培訓第三 對我們人員建立回訓制度 |
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因為時間的關係我就覺得說沒有對到答案這是不是其他的改善事項的答案不小心放在這邊是什麼情況那這個麻煩你們回去研究一下時間的關係那我想請教一下交通部部長剛剛是第二關啦這個安全委員會他的審查最終 |
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亂完之後要解除列管要送交通部要審查同意解除列管那我們又看了一個是你們已經解除列管 |
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解除裂管是什麼呢 平交到防護設施異常訊號處理那什麼時候解除裂管呢 在圖的下方去年的5月15號解除裂管就應該沒問題了 改善完畢了但是呢 改善完畢不到18天 新聞媒體在報這邊是好像是嘉義的新聞 說半年大概四五次 |
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平交到一個防護的一個相關的柵欄還是一直有問題那其實蠻危險的有問題到列車要停下來然後列車站長下來然後配合用手動再把這樣的一個 |
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相關的一個設施做一個處理那我們再看右邊的圖呢就是你解列之前113年5月份解除列管往前推10個月以台鐵跟網的報告發生了7件類似的事件但你解除列管往後推10個月發生了11件 |
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那我是因為我覺得民眾包括我們你們想法都一樣我們希望大家努力了半天報告也寫了我相信也想辦法去落實想辦法去改善終於解除列管了可是感覺實際效果不夠啊部長你說一下你的想法好不好 |
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劣管如果要解除必然是達到我們認為他會改善的標準我們才會解除劣管所以我們當然期待說解除劣管之後要看出改善的成效那不過就委員所提出來的這個很明顯看出來很像沒有改善的成效那這個原因要不要台鐵要不要說一下我們解除了劣管但是之後卻更多 |
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報告委員解除列管是因為我們自動障礙物偵測已經建完了測試驗收那為什麼在解除列管以後一段時間內還比較數量比較多是因為我們採用自動化的偵測所以有的人或是相關的物品在我們的防護區內他會告警告警我們的列車就會一度停車等這個確認沒有障礙物他才會通行 |
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那現在目前整個系統的這個整個妥善率還有他的精準率都提高了所以現在這種情形其實是已經所以在晚3月你是叫我在往14年今年3月再往後看10個月沒關係我們下次來看一下我們總而言之我們希望實際解決問題不是paperwork文件最後怎麼樣去追蹤那請問一下 |
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我們楊局長鐵道局因為我們有聽到有針對於這種安全的一個事項解除列管後面到底怎麼追蹤我們有看到你有專訪過你那你這邊特別寫解除列管分成三大類只要有明確執行的計畫著手執行就會從總體檢中解除列管這個沒問題 |
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然後再來改由鐵道局的定期檢查機制來追蹤那我覺得這個追蹤那我剛剛講的情況你有沒有追蹤我不太清楚那可是之前王國才當部長的時候他特別說了一件事他說如果台鐵公司化之後 |
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鐵道局代辦台鐵的工程他覺得不太適合來監管台鐵球員兼裁判我自己做的然後我再看看我做的好不好然後這個他是覺得有點奇怪然後他希望能夠把鐵道局的監管單位直接移到交通部這個大概目前的方向是如何你們說明一下做個結論目前有嗎 有在做嗎 |
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這個部分我跟委員報告一下那個鐵路法已經修過了那只要是這個台鐵營運上面的監理就是我們鐵道局那鐵道局的工程監理那基本上就在部裡面那以前是在這一個路政司那現在改組完之後是在路政道安司那有些案子也會到公共運輸監理室來那所以鐵道局本身工程的監理鐵路法已經修了現在就鐵道局就對了在部裡面 |
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交通部 反正鐵道局那我最後的結論是說因為票價六月底就要漲了民眾期待的不管安全品質也希望部長跟我們台鐵公司大家一定要加油讓大家看到你說你票價漲了 安全沒有漲這是不行的 謝謝 |