| IVOD_ID |
160762 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160762 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-30T09:57:43+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-30T10:05:54+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:11 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/b6da7da99b94236903e60e0ca860c53b3c0ba1d923b4b8dbc2100e055cb594032f620ca07494474b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:57:43 - 10:05:54 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：審查：
一、本院委員林宜瑾等22人擬具「動物保護法部分條文修正草案」案。
二、本院委員呂玉玲等16人擬具「動物保護法第十條條文修正草案」案。
三、本院委員呂玉玲等16人擬具「動物保護法第二十五條及第二十五條之一條文修正草案」案。
四、本院委員張智倫等16人擬具「動物保護法第十條條文修正草案」案。
五、本院委員劉建國等16人擬具「動物保護法部分條文修正草案」案。
六、本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「動物保護法第二十五條之二條文修正草案」案。
七、本院委員林岱樺等21人擬具「動物保護法第十四條之一、第十四條之二及第三十條條文修正草案」案。
八、本院委員徐巧芯等17人擬具「動物保護法部分條文修正草案」案。
九、本院委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等16人擬具「動物保護法第二條及第十條條文修正草案」案。
十、本院委員李坤城等22人擬具「動物保護法部分條文修正草案」案。
十一、本院委員廖先翔等19人擬具「動物保護法部分條文修正草案」案。
十二、本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「動物保護法部分條文修正草案」案。
十三、本院委員羅廷瑋等18人擬具「動物保護法部分條文修正草案」案。
十四、本院委員郭昱晴等16人擬具「動物保護法部分條文修正草案」案。
十五、本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具「動物保護法第二十五條及第二十五條之一條文修正草案」案。
十六、本院委員陳亭妃等18人擬具「動物保護法第五條、第二十條及第二十五條條文修正草案」案。
十七、本院委員林思銘等18人擬具「動物保護法部分條文修正草案」案。
十八、本院委員洪孟楷等16人擬具「動物保護法部分條文修正草案」案。
十九、本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「動物保護法第二條及第五條條文修正草案」案。
二十、本院委員游顥等23人擬具「動物保護法第二十五條之一條文修正草案」案。
二十一、本院委員葉元之等17人擬具「動物保護法第十條條文修正草案」案。
二十二、本院委員葉元之等17人擬具「動物保護法增訂第十四條之三條文草案」案。
二十三、本院委員葉元之等17人擬具「動物保護法第二十五條條文修正草案」案。
二十四、本院委員葉元之等17人擬具「動物保護法第二十五條之二條文修正草案」案。
二十五、本院委員蘇巧慧等17人擬具「動物保護法部分條文修正草案」案。
二十六、本院委員吳沛憶等17人擬具「動物保護法第二十二條之四條文修正草案」案。（詢答）
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主席 委員 請部長部長好部長好 這個 |
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今天的主題 動物保育法的修法 動物保護法那從原住民的觀點又不一樣從原住民文化和狩獵來看原住民以黑熊我們就以黑熊作為為例當然各種動物又不太一樣 |
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布農族看黑熊是友伴、同盟、尊敬、恐懼大家比較不知道以為我們原住民就是專門去狩獵的其實不是在布農族裏的黑熊不同的部落有不同的稱呼也有Dumas也有Dumas像阿美族是Dumai阿美族叫Dumai是這樣不同的一個稱呼各族群都有不同的 |
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這個年輕的人斯巴卡他寫了一首詩黑熊是原住民生命中的一部分非常的貼切他是神話中的生命文學他被視為以人甚至比人更高一級的生命體所以這個部分這個從 |
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原住民跟這個動物野生動物之間其實上有非常多這個一個不同的一個關係好我們看這個台灣黑熊剛才有講過了我就不再講這個它是台灣唯一原產的熊類 |
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這個過去被列為濱林節種野生動物但是目前已經在台灣也有200到600隻算不算還算不算濱林節種部長 |
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在還沒有解除之前應該還是瀕臨絕種那那個現在的物種統計的情況之下它逐漸可能會變動而且我們要確定它是不是瀕臨絕種不能一個時間點看要看長期的一個監測好這個之所以黑熊會被列為瀕臨絕種主要的原因了解嗎主要的原因為什麼會越來越少 |
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以前啦 現在有比較增加了 祖先數量越來越少那越來越少他有很多種原因包括這個棲地的問題包括我想獵捕的問題可能是非常少之又少但是可能是主要是棲地不適合他的時候造成族群的一個降低 完全正確主要是棲地我們很少獵捕這個黑熊主要是棲地事實上從1932年1932年日本 |
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探險家傑川安氏的調查報告就提到土地開發導致黑熊的棲息地喪失主要是棲息地所以土地開發才是一個最重要的我之前一直也強調這個部分絕對跟不是跟原住民的狩獵有關係好我們看最近的一個情況去年 |
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11月濁西鄉石坪部落海拔200到500公尺的雞舍遭黑熊入侵了入侵400隻雞的雞受損了總共這個有5個養雞場受到受傷害然後今年的1月 |
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黑熊入侵這個養蜂場吃這個蜂蜜這個相關的這個也只有海拔這個石坪部落只有海拔317公尺這個相關的這些好今年的4月最近就這個月這個月這個部落中正濁西鄉的中正部落這個黑熊 |
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這個對我們的雞還有狗都被侵蝕所以這個部分這個相關的這些被甚至人都受到威脅了距離住家這個被拍攝到的距離住家只有50幾公尺 |
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只有50幾公尺所以對於我們的部落對我們的住家人身安全都受到很大的影響當然這些我們養的這些雞啊狗啊或是相關的這些動物都被受到嚴重的侵害所以反而現在怎麼樣我們一直講保護保護動物啊 |
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現在是以這個案例來講啊現在怎麼樣保護我們的部落啊怎麼樣保護我們的人怎麼樣保護我們的所養殖的這些對不對所以從另外一個觀點不一樣啊所以在討論這個野生動物保護法的時候確實有它的不同的地方 |
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360.112 |
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384.229 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
所以這個部分當然有時候就產生一些不得不防身的地方就必須產生這些問題所以這個部分你看左溪鄉的中正部落這個海拔只有170到220公尺跟早期的1000公尺以上的棲息地 |
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385.08 |
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407.547 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
已經不一樣了,所以要做不同的處理了所以這個部長,你看了之後有什麼樣的想法?我想跟委員報告,就是在濁西鄉本身的歷次的黑熊的一個入侵到部落的範圍之內不是同一隻熊,是有不同隻熊 |
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408.627 |
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432.323 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
在入侵那同樣的就是說我們也非常關注就是原民部落本身的一個安全性就是有一些黑熊雖然說我們很尊重他在部落很尊重他但是必要的這些防範也是應該的所以我們透過那個生態給付的方式跟原民部落做共同的合作希望說原民部落如果發現到 |
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433.664 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
453.401 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
黑熊的中繼的時候能立即通報那我們就有專業的捕捉人員能夠前往去做相關的捕捉所以只有透過這樣的一個合作方式齁才能夠避免我們的原民部落受到一些這些野生動物的一個攻擊事實上通報是來不及啊有案例啊我們的鄉親確實是通報啦 |
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456.496 |
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475.496 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
你們的人員其實是很演的我們也不能怪你們的人員所以這個部分這個機制怎麼樣去因應所以我們在談動物保護法的時候條文裡面怎麼樣去農業部也要去思考怎麼樣保護人類所以這個部分保護這些 |
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489.056 |
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他也是動物啊 雞啊 狗啊那些也是動物啊怎麼去保護啊動物與動物之間的這個互相的侵害好不好是謝謝好 謝謝好 謝謝 |