| IVOD_ID |
160734 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160734 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-3-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第9次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第9次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-29T15:08:40+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-29T15:24:11+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:31 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5e3950a5df8d034b586a1a14193ff2c7066821ab1e45083e07d926e96d12bddfe70ccf99090aa3605ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林思銘 |
| 委員發言時間 |
15:08:40 - 15:24:11 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第9次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。二、4月25日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、4月29日下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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卓院長備詢院長好院長我想我今天特別就西竹縣的幾個教育議題來救教院長首先我對西竹縣的高中社校經費來請教院長他的進度 |
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現在我們目前新竹縣市的國立高中我們這個在新竹市有新竹中學有竹科附屬中學有新竹高商有新竹女中還有新竹高工 |
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那麼在我們新竹縣僅有兩所國立高中一個就是竹北高中那竹北高中也在七月就是要跟陽明交大來合併就合併屬於陽明交大附中那麼另外就是竹東高中 |
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那麼新竹縣隨著科技人口大量的移居,我們的教育量體已經大大的不足。那麼在110年的時候,本席向時任行政院的蘇貞昌院長爭取國中小的建設經費,總共是24億。 |
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當時蘇院長也很大方的核定了七成就大概17億來讓新竹縣新建國中小當時我們也利用這個經費蓋了四所的國中小、一所的縣立高中 |
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那麼而116年因為我們知道龍年的學子將在116年就就讀高中所以統計我們需求將達到高峰新竹縣市大概有這個一萬 |
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8085位學子要去就讀我們的高中那麼依據教育部國教署在112年11月提出的大新竹地區116年度高中學生人數這一個統計啊那麼112年學年度將增加1677人 |
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院長1677人的概念等於說將近兩所高中就要擠入現有的高中所以量體明顯不足那麼此外在117到121學年度新竹縣的高中入學需求仍然會高於112學年度 |
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所以它的人數不會減還是維持在那麼多的人數所以我們就新竹縣的整個人口的增加那麼我們高中確實有它興建的必要性 |
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所以說為了應應高中的就學的需求以及增加平衡區域教育的資源同時也為了服應在地產業的需求以及人才的培育均衡設置高中及高職的比例為我們增班規劃的重要考量是新竹縣政府的重要考量所以新竹縣政府規劃五大高中的需求方案 |
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預計大概要35億這樣的一個經費那麼在116學年度可以增加招收29到33班可以增加1000多個招收的名額所以新竹縣提出了新竹縣高中五大方案需求 |
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分別為新設立的一所高中叫實驗高中還有六家高中以及湖口高中的增班、擴班文興國中與志強國中改制為完全中學那麼其中湖口高中將增設電機與電子群 |
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以及設計群科志強國中則改制為技術型的高中設置電機與電子群及化工群以增加我們功力高值的供應量並提供我們學生更多元適性的一個選擇 |
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那本席在這邊想請教院長這五大方案的需求經費35億元那麼已經送到教育部請請行政院來核定補助請問院長目前我們行政院審核的進度為何好謝謝委員大新竹地區因為產業的發展 |
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人口的移入確實有增加高中學校的必要也謝謝委員多次在總諮詢提出這樣的需求為地方來請求增加這樣的一個建設那麼我們依照手上的資料到116年會增加可以在教育部跟竹竹苗三個縣市合併起來的一個合作的計畫會增加2155名的員額的招生 |
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將近有62班左右62班以上那這個是不是可以初步的達到這個階段的需求 |
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那麼竹科的實驗中學也已經配合教育部來規劃完成那麼113年度也會有新增普通科的一班至於委員所說的35億的新增學校的相關預算是不是教育部能夠再做詳細的規劃出來以後行政院再來核定我想過去包括蘇前院長都那麼樣大力的支持表示這個政策絕對是正確而且需要的 |
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那現在更需要急迫把它接上來請政院允諾會全力的來支持謝謝院長給我們的承諾那院長我比較想更進一步的請教院長就是說過去蘇院長是以公建基金來補助我們那這一次我在去年七月份的時候 |
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在教文委員會的時候我也有請教我們政部長是否能夠請國發會以公建基金這樣的經費來做一個處理並且在去年的11月14號的時候經濟委員會到我們新竹地區考察 |
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那國發會當時國發會也認列新竹縣的教育問題攸關我們台灣整體高科技產業的發展但其實行政院已經在去年的九月就已經表示因為這個不是屬於重大公共建設計畫的範疇所需經費不依這個由我們公建經費的預算來支應 |
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接著教育部就在去年12月確認竹苗地區有學生數徵求的需求並修正計畫為新建竹竹苗公立高級中學等學校校舍計畫114-118年度並函報行政院徵取專案計畫 |
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所以我想進一步了解院長現在我們是不是就朝我們現在教育部的規劃就是用專案的一個計畫來補助這個經費還請部長謝謝委員關心確實當時我想在這個國民教育在高中 |
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高中以下的教育基本上是屬於這個地方自治所以我想國發會當時的一個核定就認為雖然地方的產業快速發展也有許多的新興學生的一些就學的需求 |
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我們也確實當時也希望說能夠從公建的一個計畫裡面能夠去提供這一個新竹大新竹地區的許多高中學生的許多的求學的需求那國發會有這樣一個表示那所以我們也根據國發會的一些意見 |
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然後重新來修改那也希望在這個行政程序來報這個行政院來審理確實我們大概有針對這個新建的竹竹苗工藝高級中等學校的校舍的一個計畫申請能夠增班專案的一個經會在整個行政院裡邊我們當然希望行政院看怎麼樣能夠中央跟地方能夠有一些共通的一些合作的一個模式 |
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但在這個之前我們事實上在今年的1月也基於這個蓋校舍本來新建的一個校舍本來是比較需要一些時間的所以我們在立即性上我們馬上這個提供了巴索高級中等學校的一個增班我們就 |
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這一個國教署就補助這一個三千七百多萬直接到地方裡邊我們希望說學校裡邊現有的空間馬上來整辦但是屬於學校的那一個規劃當然剛才講說補助三千多萬因為這個杯水車薪現在是三十五億 |
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那是要還新建教育部我剛才講的就幾所高中還有完全中學的設立新竹縣已經提報了五大需求的一個方案那這個案子已經在去年就已經送出來了那我現在是就叫說請行政院還有部長到底教育部對這個案子你們的看法到底要不要補助 |
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要補助用什麼方式來補助剛才您提到好像公建基金您認為不適宜嗎不適合嗎國發會認為是這不屬於重大的一個國家的一個建設屬於地方的一個治理的一個責任這個部長我們了解我們也能夠接受但是我希望說這是一個專案 |
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這個專案院長你也知道新竹地區有這個需求難道我們到現在還沒有一個下文嗎因為我一直問教育部教育部一直沒有辦法給我一個很明確的答案所以我今天直接來救教院長因為學校已經要蓋了要蓋了到現在經費都沒有著落因為這是新興區你看一下增加了將近兩所高中的人數 |
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所以這是一個非常嚴重的一個問題教育問題量體明顯不足所以我們還是希望中央能夠協助地方把我們重要的教育的這個建設能夠補助我們這個相關的一個金額不要一直完全沒有效能 |
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到底什麼時候能夠給我一個很明確的答覆這筆我想院長已經我上次已經有私下問院長說這筆經費院長有沒有看到教育部的一個這個呈報的一個函文有沒有院長你有收到嗎目前是還沒有看到是啊教育部為什麼會拖那麼久呢因為過去的政策我們有必要再做對的延續啦 |
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但是未來中央的財政能力我們必須考量但是我寧願不考慮這些我們考慮下一代教育的重要性我非常感謝您說要延續為什麼真的要延續因為鄭文燦當時是行政院副院長他到實驗高中到新竹的實驗高中他去訪視針對這個議題他說他們一定會全額補助啊 |
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全額只要提報上來全額的幫忙地方的所有的一個增搬 擴效的一個經費但是到今天 |
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你看已經拖了半年之久了到現在沒有下文所以真的要拜託院長請部長盡速的就這個專案計畫您也提了專案計畫趕快送到行政院請院長來做核定好不好院長給我們一個承諾請教育部敬請另外跟我做一個報告我們再來進行一下的程序謝謝 拜託了 |
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第二個議題台大校地的問題我想台大在26年前就取得竹北台大校地信誓旦旦的畫大餅要提出台大竹北分校的計畫 |
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當年本席在新竹縣是擔任議員當時新竹縣會展現誠意在辦理限制二期的時候總共無償提供國道1竹北交道附近的用地35.7公頃給台大 振宇給台大讓台大無償取得 |
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但台大到現在二十幾年啊,如果院長你有去看的話,除了蓋了一棟避震管是校友捐資的以外,其他完全一片荒蕪。我們在地的民眾對台大完全無動於衷,完全不去這個社校啊,我們現在已經抱著一個心態囉,阿婆生子,阿婆生子,不抱期待啦。 |
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所以台大到底要如何的善盡一個社校的義務因為當初跟新竹縣政府承諾就要社校但是到現在沒有社校 |
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台大到底要讓這塊土地何去何從我覺得台大有義務要跟新竹縣的縣民講清楚說明白教育部有義務要督促台大已經有一個NTU Tech基地的一個設置未來朝向產學合作園區的方式去發展無論是教學單位或是教育推廣 |
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另外就是開設碩士的載職專班等等台大都有一些計畫那是不是請教育部要求台大如果有計畫就按時程盡速的完成免得這個地方開發變成遲晚下來這也是我今天要這個去救教的 |
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我們真的要請行政院請教一步要督促台大今天說要在這裡做一個剛才講的科技的創新的基地那麼整個計畫它的期程到底多久不要就講是這樣我們一直抱期待到最後完全還是沒有做我們常常看到開空投支票講這樣我們看楊文科縣長怎麼樣去批評台大楊文科縣長批評我再給你看一個powerpoint你看楊文科縣長他怎麼講 |
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874 |
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一個校門口蓋五年姚文科縣長安批台大是詐騙集團一個校門口蓋了五年這樣的一個效率所以台大到底有沒有心要在無償取得的土地上 |
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來做一個教育百年大計的一個社分校的一個計畫如果今天是要講說要這個做什麼什麼創新基地啦說其他的一個產業的一個用途啦我講這完全背離了當時新竹縣政府把這塊土地贈予台大作為學校培育我們優秀人才的用意喔 |
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謝謝委員提醒 我想我們會來督促台大我確實也在公開場合也在這個我們立法委員裡面的一個謝謝 部長我最後一個問題我請你用書面答覆我台大當時取得這塊土地的過程請你用書面答覆我到底有償還無償 |
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好 謝謝林思明委員的質詢麻煩請林思明委員所提的麻煩請教育部能夠儘速來答覆林思明委員謝謝總院長教育部的備詢 |