| IVOD_ID |
160717 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160717 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-26-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-28T12:38:45+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-28T12:49:03+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:18 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3f76a0bd18e4ae6ad5230c9384d6ba7de7917adb13da21615ba25018bc0ad6f439e6445d9208886c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
楊曜 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:38:45 - 12:49:03 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-28T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：邀請環境部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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好 請楊委員發言好 謝謝主席主席請一下彭部長好 請彭部長楊委員好部長好部長我接著黃秀芳委員的話來提問我也覺得你是一個肯做事的人謝謝委員 謝謝那電動車呢電動車呢 |
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很遺憾就是我在這邊大概也已經講10年了就是政府補助的金額其實這麼多年來算不少投注的心力很多我覺得電動機車最必須要解決的就是我大概很早以前我記得搞不好是從第八屆我就講了就是假如沒有辦法 |
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各家廠商的電池統一然後推電池交換站讓使用者覺得方便使用再多的補貼都沒有用你只補貼他去買車可是我記得是 |
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國內現在幾家廠商的電池規格也沒有辦法統一我對這件事情對於行政部門大力補貼然後連去協調當然這個不在你的任內就連去統合幾家廠商讓大家的電池規格一致可以統一交換做一個交換平台 |
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都沒有辦法達成其實我一直是很有意見的部長是不是你們跟經濟部也好跟交通部也好看怎麼在電池交換站的平台可以形成之前我覺得買車的人都會後悔 |
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部長你有沒有什麼想法其實包委員因為現在這個市場跟10年前不大一樣就是說這兩家例如說現在G公司跟K公司其實兩個電池的交換體系是完全不一樣的所以要統合我認為是不可能的事而且兩邊都有一些經營上的壓力經營上的壓力所以現在的局勢 |
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還在變化當中啦 我同意委員的看法那他們假如不做統合那政府一直拿錢出來做補助做購買的補助這個其實你們可以去問一問就是曾經買過電動車的使用者這個最準 你就是問他他買了以後現在不是民眾沒有減碳的觀念 |
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是減碳的觀念必須要建立在他生活方便的基礎上去推動生活造成不便這個你要求民眾來響應政府的減減碳這個很困難好不好不過我還是希望你們去做一定的努力啦要不然真的是很多人是買一輛就後悔一次 |
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因為實在是太不方便了 |
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不然我們為了要落實2050的淨零轉型所以綠領人才扮演了很關鍵的角色去年環境部跟104人力領銀行有合作完成了綠領人才的就業趨勢報告2024年大概有將近3600家的企業徵才開出綠領人才需求8年來成長了329% |
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那2026年開始我們要開增碳費環境部目前推估大概只有7%的真材企業開出力領的工作需求未來5年內會有1-3倍的成長空間 |
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請問一下就是環境部這邊在2025年就今年有成立公司協力進行力領培育聯盟是由環境部跟大交驗校分北中南東 |
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要來做淨零人力的培育中心每年培育大概3500人次可是呢就剛才那個趨勢報告指出啊利零人才的需求 |
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每個月是2.2萬個工作機會那我們這樣子的培育速度會不會太慢報告委員他是現在在104上面他真的工作有2.2萬人不是每個月就有2.2萬人他有可能一直掛在上面一直在找到他要的人 |
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所以目前我們預估但是這個的需求還是很高這個是僅次於AI而且他成長幅度是最快的所以我們看到這個趨勢是希望來培育而且未來呢我們這個上過我們課的育齡人才他在104你個人的這個履歷裡面他也會把他標註在上去所以基本上呢我們是我們不需要很快的把這個2.2萬人填補上去啦因為我們未來還有一系列的規劃包含增輪的課程等等 |
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對 所以因為綠營人才的需求已經出現了所以我們培育的速度想來也不能太慢也因為綠營人才的需求大增所以有很多坊間有很多補習班有很多相關的就譬如說 |
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ESG的認證啦永續管理師等等這個可是呢他補習班 |
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培育出來的不一定可以取得國內外的認證那這個可能請環境部這邊就相關的我想這個可能也不是你環境部主管就過去來說的話他是屬於真人的課程就像補習班這樣這個我們管不到進入企業以後追蹤的部分應該算你們 |
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我們會來主動的來希望追蹤我們培訓的人因為我們當然希望很多人可以投入相關綠領的領域可是還是必須要做把關補教的部分不歸環境部這個我知道可是他進入企業以後的追蹤環境部這邊還是必須要務必要把關好了是沒問題 |
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因為時間的關係我必須要直接跳著問一個澎湖的問題因為澎湖的垃圾長期都是轉運到本島來做焚化所以有一些鄉親很希望可以在澎湖做終極的處理焚化爐就是一個選項 |
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我想要請教一下部長就是請部長詳細的回答有關全國政策的規劃協助跟督導這個當然是環境部的那其他的一般執行是不是屬於地方政府或者是署長直接回答也可以 |
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是包委員有關地方政府是他清運處理都是屬於地方政府的清運處理都是屬於地方政府?是那所以清運的部分現在是我們部裡面有補貼給有補助給地方政府嗎?對不對?但是責任是他要他執行我們給補助 |
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像澎湖就是轉運的轉運是我們補助那假如說澎湖要興建焚化爐我們環境部可以補助經費嗎報告員因為那個地方的住址處理設施原則上還是有地方來做處理啦那我們可以有一些事前的規劃或者是評估的部分我們可以補助所以焚化爐就是不能補助 |
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原則上是如果他可以自己運作的話不補助因為現在有所謂的促參嘛引進民間的資源來就是假如說是縣府自己要蓋焚化爐建設的部分我們布裡面是不補助的對跟以前不一樣以前都是現在很多都是環保署在補助的現在是倒過來這個是屬於地方事務在處理的 |
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地方事務處理好那因為很多鄉親 |
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就是現在公民參與越來越踴躍所以很多人會表達意見所以我必須要很明確的在這個執行台讓部長跟署長明確的回答就是有關焚化爐興建的部分部裡面這邊是不會補助的好 謝謝部長 謝謝主席謝謝楊耀偉 |