IVOD_ID |
160697 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160697 |
日期 |
2025-04-25 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-3-9 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第9次會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
3 |
會議資料.會次 |
9 |
會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第9次會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2025-04-25T16:21:49+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2025-04-25T16:37:22+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:15:33 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/b161887eae65c392f3b87bc9c75c0af2fbec180d4fb51a0656cfaaac0f22eeb20ecafa458f489ced5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
張宏陸 |
委員發言時間 |
16:21:49 - 16:37:22 |
會議時間 |
2025-04-25T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第9次會議(事由:一、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。二、4月25日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、4月29日下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。) |
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我先請院長麻煩再請左院長備詢張委員好 |
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院長其實我們在板橋我們有幾個大的工程我在這邊要跟院長報告一下我們交換個意見這個國家兒童未來館政府我們花了很多錢那我只希望說院長這個進度能不能請院長幫我們看緊一點 |
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這個是對新北市來講是一個大的計畫對國家來講也是大的計畫因為我們在這個區域發展計畫140項的工程裡面我們已經把它納進旗艦計畫之一了那一定是照時程來推進那地方如果配合得更快那我們這個時程當然可以往前推為什麼會特別請教院長這個問題呢因為 |
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你也知道這個是我極力爭取的我發現以我們的經驗來講的話他其實之前審查的這一些跨部會的這個其實可以縮短蠻多的時間的那我們也在努力就是今天在這邊希望院長都支持一下然後跟各部會交代一下他那麼一塊土地你做一半另外一半是空的那一半空的要不要一併來想想看怎麼做 |
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我就想說院長跟各部會說一下我們在協調的時候會比較快另外我長期在一直努力的社後輕軌也希望說院長能跟交通部再多叮嚀一下現在問題只有出在新北市政府而已我們這邊都沒問題了這兩點能不能拜託院長 |
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我們這裡可能牽扯到未來財政收支劃分法的問題如果真的照現在狀況的話我們必須重新調整跟地方的分配或者如果說地方不增加地方的負擔我們就可能時間會延長這都是我不願意看到的反正這個就是請院長多注意 多處理我們積極來處理好 那院長你請回座你請回座 |
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我想這個關稅大戰大家也都滿關心台灣的廠商 |
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那我不知道我們對我們台灣對防治中國席產地我們目前有什麼具體的因應措施事實上我們跟財政部這邊一起來配合那我們是會針對這個講重點就好那就是有三個階段事前我們會做一個這個嚴審 |
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事後我們會做一些研查事後我們會做一個研發所以這個三階段我們會跟財政部這邊來配合我們也會監控中國大陸進來的產品的數量以及它的價格 |
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你也知道啦人家歐盟也成立了進口進控小組人家越南也修法也什麼啦那我剛聽你這樣子啊那我們有沒有修法的必要或有沒有要做更具體的措施各位報告其實我們在貿易法裡面其實對這個相關息產地的這個規定大概都有一些對這些進出口廠商都有一些非常嚴格的一個規定 |
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那再加上就是說這一次對等關稅的這個政策那如果這些進出口廠商他們違反了相關的規定我們一定是採用最高的這個處罰的一個標準甚至不排除就是把他的這些進出口的這個資格要來做取消你說的是你的想法那我的看法跟你是完全不一樣 |
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你要遠方西產地當然要啊對不對但有一些廠商你有沒有跟他講得很清楚哪些是不能哪些比例是多少你們有沒有跟所有的中小企業講我跟你講大企業沒有這個困難尤其是小企業你們有沒有跟人家講 |
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是跟我們報告其實我們都有開一些說明會啦我就問你有沒有跟人家講就好了嘛你回答我的問題比較直接因為我就有四五分鐘啊工會一起合辦相關的一些講習工會有講啦那工會有沒有很多的小的廠商都還就我們去問啦他根本還沒有任何訊息啊 |
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是 那我們這個部分我們會再做加強多辦一些宣導的場次那特別是針對一些工業區啦或是這些這個產業的聚落我們特別來加強做宣導我認為啦多辦場次啊什麼的我跟你講雖然預算被刪了啦但連給他們的一封email或給他們一封信給他們這樣講這個完全沒有錢可以做嗎 |
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跟我們報告,事實上我們這一個部分我們是非常注意到的這個,這個,這個,這個,這個,這個,這個,這個,這個,這個,這個,這個,這個,這個,這個,這個, |
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現在如果關稅這樣有沒有可能我們的廠商他本來是這個貨是在中國製造的結果他可以全部來給台灣的工廠做然後由台灣出口會不會有這個情況發生我們布派出也會有這種情況發生我認為這個情況很有可能發生 |
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他反正在中國接單啊然後下單給台灣啊那下單給台灣就出口美國啊這個也是一種方式啊再怎麼樣台灣的關稅應該會比中國低很多啊那這樣子有一個情況會不會出現如果這些產品裡面有用到中國的原物料或用到什麼那個比例多少 |
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這個會變成是MIC不是MIT會不會這樣是 跟委員報告事實上我們MIT的產品我們有做一個非常嚴格的一個認定就是原產力的一個認定那包括就是說它裡面的這個價值的成分要達到35% |
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或是說它裡面它一定要做到實質轉型那經過加工之後它的稅號要能夠做改變所以是有非常嚴格的一個相關的MIT產品原產地的這個規定 |
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但我們的規定跟美國的規定有沒有一致是不太一樣所以美國他是針對有些是材料的認定的部分所以我們會建立廠商就是說是不是符合原產地證明的部分可以先申請美國海關的預審 |
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你說的這些都是法律條文都是什麼的我在看的是這個問題比較重要的是我再說一次上市櫃企業都有專門的人在處理這些那你一些小型的尤其是小型企業你們的資訊無法傳達到他們目前的問題是這裡你剛講的這一些 |
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你們自己可以去問小型企業知道嗎知不知道你們認為他知不知道這個我們真的要加強宣導因為企業的家屬是蠻多的要能夠讓每一家企業都能夠了解很詳細了解事實上我們要花很大的功夫我們一定要有系統的方式比方透過一些工會透過我們的工業區廠商的這些組織 |
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來做一些說明會那逐步去把這些相關的規定透過用這個傳單的方式還是說用這個這個公告的這個方式透過這些宣傳讓廠商能夠來了解那當然我們也有一些這個免付費的這個諮詢服務的這個電話那廠商如果不了解的話也可以打電話到我們貿易署的這個窗口來做一些詢問 |
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我必須要說啦 你說的這些都是管道啦但很多的小型企業尤其現在如果這種情況會發生的話 |
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上市櫃企業發生這種情況非常少啦一些加工一些比較我們特別傳統的然後又沒有能力外移到東南亞或什麼的這一些企業才會發生這些問題的我認為會比較多啦但如果照你剛剛這樣講的你覺得你自己認為有多少這一些傳產 |
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這些負責人他能夠接受到這個訊息我請問你至少我們在工業區裡面每一家廠商我們都可以讓他們去瞭解我現在問你的就是不要再說工業區了我剛說的那些企業你是主管單位你不要說你不知道那些企業在哪裡他也不在工業區 |
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他就散居在各個小角落他可能工廠整個人員才十幾個或才幾個人這個才會最多面臨這個問題啊但他的蔣俊萊他那一輩子就苦幹實幹加工一個工廠你覺得你一直在跟我講他去工業區他會去嗎 |
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他有參加工會嗎?跟委員報告,其實我們最主要是應該要從進出口廠商那個部分我們先去做這個宣導讓這些進出口廠商,他能夠去了解政府相關的這些規定不對啦不對啦,你這個思維不對,我剛一開始就講了 |
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這個會變成中國的進出廠商中國的進出口廠商他直接換來台灣下單他是已經跳過了原來的這些管道你現在懂我問你的意思嗎 |
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是 我清楚不過現在就是說我們希望能夠讓這些中小企業能夠去了解我們現在台灣這邊相關的這些嚴防稀產地或是說嚴防這個中國地下傾銷的這些問題的話那事實上我們必須要透過很多的管道跟通路這邊去能夠去接觸到所有做這個外銷相關的生意的這些中小企業這是我們必須要努力的 |
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哇 我知道啦 你現在講的這些其實考試你都可以這樣寫啦 這樣講啦我現在要問你的是如何傳達 |
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那我剛剛啊,也有跟你講啊,就是譬如說這些你們手上都有啊,他的營業額他的什麼的這種的,你們應該一封信或一個傳單直接到他們的工廠裡面,我覺得這個才能夠讓他們知道, |
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想不到他也知道有這個問題不然傻傻接單之後面臨高額的罰款我跟你講他不是有心要做這件事情的結果如果這樣的話工廠一天就倒了那我們要這種情況發生嗎是 |
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我跟你講你還是有一個邏輯點你沒有跳過我剛說的這些廠商 |
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他可能也沒有這可能十幾二十年都沒有做過出口生意囉他完全沒有做過出口生意囉現在因為是中國被受到強烈這種制裁他跳過這個來給台灣的廠商下這個訂單他有可能都沒有出口過可能十幾二十年沒有做過出口的你這樣聽懂我的意思嗎是 我了解 |
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有沒有我說的這種情況發生你覺得有可能啦有可能這種情況發生那不過就是說我們會去觀察一下就從大陸來的這些接單的這個狀況那我們會來做一些了解那是不是他的這個產品的內容是不是這個回到中國大陸之後他會做什麼樣的一些處理 |
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回到中國大陸就中國大陸的這些廠商他來到台灣這邊下單之後他這個產品會做什麼樣的處理他不會再回到中國大陸就在台灣的部分做什麼樣的處理 |
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他就是下單啊可能有一些原物料或什麼他也可能中國來東南亞來啊什麼對不對那搞不好一不小心就超過了那個百分之三十五啊所以我們在發原產地證明的時候我們就會很小心這樣的一個會有這樣的一個現象時間的話我要跟你講就是說我說的這些廠商不是你印象中的那些廠商這些廠商 |
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可能就是因為這一波可能會誤入一些法律上的問題那他根本就不知道的這點你們要趕快去處理啦 |