| IVOD_ID |
160658 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160658 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-22-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-24T11:58:00+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-24T12:06:22+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:22 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5e1f7c3e1748c6e52f057e88d72ee8b2c89945c4c3ca21e1840241ee498f319ad354354e2f17e0785ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:58:00 - 12:06:22 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-24T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：邀請核能安全委員會主任委員陳明真列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
(4月23日及24日二天一次會)） |
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主席 請陳主委好 有請陳主委主委你好 各位好 再三星期我們台灣就是非核家園了民進黨這幾年已經把核一廢掉了核二廢掉了 核三廠到了5月17號又廢掉了 因為這樣子 |
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我們的台電發電成本一年要增加一千億更嚴重的 民進黨如果繼續在匯合繼續在黨重啟核電會有幾個很嚴重的後果第一個 我們電價會繼續變貴第二個 會影響到我們人民的生命跟健康因為空污越來越嚴重 |
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核能是低碳甚至是無碳的結果現在都是用天然氣跟燒煤來取代這全台灣的民眾都是受影響的我記得執政黨包括民進黨的立委今天在這邊問政都要負很大的責任如果有人因為空污身體健康受影響生命受到影響民進黨跟民進黨立法委員要負很大的責任另外也造成我們產業的發展我們的碳費變貴了 |
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對不對因為你燒天然氣嘛 燒煤嘛所以從剛剛講的電費從健康 生命安全一直到產業發展民進黨如果繼續在廢核在擋核能的重啟後果是非常嚴重的我記得這個全民去跟民進黨討公道好 民進黨一直在造謠今天是核安會的這個業務報告主委我請問一下 |
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我們台灣核能到底安不安全我先給你回答之前我先給大家看一下國際原子能總署啊曾經對全世界的這個核電廠做過一個評比台灣啊是最安全的第六名對不對 四位我們核電安全是全世界有名的對不對對嘛 |
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不只點頭 清楚跟全台灣的民眾講民進黨為了黨核能而配合一直在汙名化我們的核能安全台灣的這三座核電廠對我們經濟發展提供了多大的一個貢獻我們多少這麼好的核能的人才被你們這樣汙名化我們清清楚楚 注意 跟大家講國際原子能充足我們是全世界不只排名在第六我們的安全一直都被國際是肯定的 |
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他做了非計劃性能力損失的這個因素啊代表一個電廠經過大修以後基礎如果再啟動是可以馬上維持這個安定滿載的電力的這個能力這個能力啊叫OUCL這個數值啊只要是越低表示它是越可靠性越高的第一個它是越安全的台灣擺大浪結果民進黨長久以來為了要肺核 |
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汙名化我們的河岸也汙名化我們這麼多的人才剛剛在講 我們的人才都快被挖走了對不對主委要把人才留下來好不好第二個 民進黨一直說很不安全我們包括發生九一大地震我們的核電有出現問題嗎剛剛主委講了一個很重要的全世界的核能大國不管是美國 日本 法國 |
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人家都很注意安全啊 科技一直在進步對不對而且一直有安全眼鏈嘛憑什麼說我們的核能是不安全的只是因為民進黨一直在廢了 他們還停留在上個世紀好 第二個核廢料的問題我在去年的七月份啊還實地去河山去考察他們清楚跟我講我們的燃料棒 |
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那個注意我們燃料棒你剛講的一句話很重要燃料棒反應爐用完之後一年半用完之後拿出來就放到燃料池嘛對不對對不對河山廠清楚跟我講我們屏東還可以再用四年四到五年所以燃力是沒有問題的第二更重要的是我剛才說的啦全世界現在在處理核廢料都怎麼處理 |
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先放燃料池對不對後來乾式慈文茶對不對美國這樣做 日本這樣做 法國這樣做全世界都這樣做和未來都沒有問題只有民進黨說有問題民進黨是什麼 警禮之蛙 偽狼自大還是禮盲 還是造謠 |
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而且最離譜的一點民進黨把核廢料講得這麼恐怖我們問一下那目前核一廠核二廠核三廠的核廢料如果像民進黨這樣說了沒辦法處理要放倒你們不用處理嗎當然是主委講的嘛科技越來越進步而且全世界現在就放在乾式的儲存草裡面嘛對不對全世界都在那邊做 |
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台灣當然也是這樣做啊請不要再汙名化好我簡單的因為主席已經站起來了我簡單的講幾個童子前講啊全世界都要用核能他說啊用核能可以幫台灣省下大概幾兆的經費美國鼓勵員都直接講了美國願意在核能方面幫我們全世界都在返回核能只有民進黨現在在對撞你是跟全世界潮流在對撞跟美國在對撞欸 |
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剛核廢料我剛講過了連我問了外交部部長林佳龍他現在高官罪的這個談判啊可以找美國 美國都可以處理為什麼美國就找他們來幫我們處理核廢料嘛 對不對也是個辦法嘛 左右點頭嘛 對不對好 剛在講民意台灣民眾黨最近做了一個民調 |
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問說要不要使用核能支持了64.5%不支持了23.8%要用著壓倒性的勝利而且我們之前還有以核揚利耶民進黨不是說要重視民意嗎 要有共識嗎所有的民調裡面每次看出來要繼續用核電都被撤過六成而且要經過公投咧好 最後我做一個簡單的這個結論昨天啊 我們的代總統說啊 |
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不排除新的這個核能的這個技術然後他講到三個 核安 核廢料跟社會共識剛剛我 注意 我們剛剛討論完我們台灣的核安是安全的嘛 對不對這個有嘛 有解決嘛第二個核廢料可不可以處理可以處理嘛 對不對全世界都是這樣處理嘛 對不對 |
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對不對 對嗎全世界現在會有共同的處理方式對嘛 至少兩個 我覺得你今天講的兩個很重要嘛全世界 美國 日本 法國 全世界先進國家都這樣處理第二個 科技在進步嘛甘肆村草就可以用五十年耶 對不對當然這兩個都可以處理啊 所以河岸可以處理啊 河輝道可以處理啊社會共識 每次民調都超過六成所以包括我們提的河山重啟的這個 |
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為什麼要公投?就是要加強社會共識嘛所以這三個老蔣都不是問題最後做個結論請民進黨如果繼續你要再擋河山欸 我們修核安法球還是在民進黨的手上啊 主席你已經超過五分鐘了一分鐘 抱歉 抱歉沒有辦法 沒有辦法我講到核安法 |
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要不要用核能還是民進黨 請民進黨想清楚你要讓電配機器找嗎 要機器強害我們的健康嗎用燃煤跟燃這個天然氣來傷害我們的健康嗎然後讓我們的產業受到衝擊嗎如果民進黨不解決 請民眾直接找民進黨去負責 |