| IVOD_ID |
160651 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160651 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-22-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-24T11:49:51+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-24T11:57:54+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:03 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5e1f7c3e1748c6e58bac86c4d2e571ffc89945c4c3ca21e1840241ee498f319a3eca6ea80bfd1def5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
洪孟楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:49:51 - 11:57:54 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-24T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：邀請核能安全委員會主任委員陳明真列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
(4月23日及24日二天一次會)） |
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好 主席謝謝 麻煩請陳主委好 有請陳主委好 主委好 何安非常重要前兩天這個世界地球日賴清德總統也說接見環團的時候有講到對未來的新核能技術保持開放的態度環境部長說沒有所謂非核家園非核家園不是行政團隊的神主牌 |
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有看到嗎?對的那我們都不知道說那這樣子現在民進黨過去一直在野的時候強調的非核跟現在又可以大轉彎然後臉不紅氣不喘我們也覺得非常的感到非常的精細是核心不過 |
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如果說真的沒有所謂的非核家園神主牌的話那態度很重要就不是只是嘴巴講講嘛那我請教上個月底我們有排審核子反應器設施管制條例管制法第六條的修正草案的時候沒有相關的版本不管是我們政院不管是我們政府不管是我們綠營的委員沒有相關版本身為主管機關主委你怎麼看 |
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我感覺這個版本已經很多了什麼版本已經很多 他沒有你們的版本主委 你是在開玩笑還是你是認真嚴肅的回答本席的問題嗎因為核安會是核能安全主管機關是核電要不要研議是屬於核子反應器設施管制法主管機關是誰明定這個法的主管機關 |
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這是核安會是啊 前身是原能會 現在是核安會啊那我們現在在講是說如果說政府也覺得說沒有所謂的非核家園沒有要死爆神主牌那要討論核電廠能不能研議現在世界各國 美國 日本有多少核電廠研議 |
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有關核電研議的事情是屬於核能政策的問題研議的電廠大概100多所以這些研議的電廠是不是都經過安全的評估 專業的評估理性的評估 科學的評估是嘛 不然他們政府不敢放嘛那一樣的道理 |
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我們國家裡面河一場 河二場 河三場過去有沒有做過相關研議的評估安全評估報告河一場有將近有做評估河二場也有 河三場也有嘛河二河三沒有 河一場有確定喔 諸位 |
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沒有送到核安會來審查有做評估但是沒有送核安會來審查還是沒做評估評估應該是台電內部的事台電內部有評估啊但是做完這個報告之後當然會有送相關主管機關啊沒有送過來確定嗎主委 確定喔我確定因為 |
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本席後續還會再追這個議題但是我現在很清楚明白的確定是台電過去都有做核電廠的安全研議評估尤其是核三廠這個是本席很確定的部分再來第二個部分選址也是一個重點對不對核廢料的一個選址那現在我們看到說行政部門 |
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有已經有所謂行政院有所謂的一個選址辦公室那也希望能夠趕快來確定選址立法來送政院那其中特別有提到是說現在這個辦公室主任還沒找到但是對外的說法是說還會再找不管是台電不管是和安會的人員一起進入到這個辦公室我請教一下主委到目前這有沒有相關進度還是和安會有沒有接收到說到底這個辦公室要做什麼 |
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我目前是負責人員已經找到了那開過會了沒還沒就任吧已經找到了還沒就任是那對外講法是說我們還會有河安會的人員也都一起加入沒有沒有有啊這新聞稿就直接這樣寫不是不能我們準備資料比你們還要充分然後你不能講說新聞稿上面公開資訊上面不能講說沒有諸位 |
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這個專案辦公室並沒有河安會的人在裡面主委要不要我拿相關的新聞稿給你因為這是我們剛查我現在只是很理性的想要跟你確認是說現在這個選址辦公室未來要怎麼運作河安會這邊有沒有了解那結果你現在這樣講那到底是誰說謊是政院說謊來大家去看中央社的報導 |
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經部核廢處置辦公室落腳板橋選址立院拼年底送政院4月4號中央社的報導其中裡面就提到居時辦公室也會從台電、核安會、學界、研覽、核電專業者參與核廢選址立法推動 |
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所以你們是還沒有被通知到報告委員在經濟部徵詢專案辦公室主任的這個階段的時候曾經徵詢過一位退休的 |
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核安會的副主委不過這位副主委他並沒有意願擔任那目前其實沒有核安會的人員去參加這個專案辦公室因為我們是安全監督安全監督角色跟這個業務上面會有會有是所以本席也會覺得就起 |
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所以這主委這為什麼本席會今天提出來其實本席還準備其他問題也是要問就說這樣子我們會不會有球員兼裁判的狀況何安會如果說要派人因為這個是正式的新聞稿4月4號中央社發出來的新聞報導 |
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就講說要延攬相關的人士進入到這個辦公室他講的不是說主任要是和安會的人派他講的是說未來運作要由相關不管台電學界以及和安會要有人員共同參與那這樣子我就想問說那如果說選址出來完之後又再交給和安會審查 |
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那核安會是不是又角色多重一方面你是專業的判斷那一方面你又加入這個選舉辦公室那在選舉辦公室裡面你要用什麼樣的身份來給予什麼樣的意見所以核安會並沒有人參與所以那這樣看起來這個新聞是假新聞 |
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要不要做個澄清可以啊可以做澄清那是前副主委曾經並不是陳副主委嘛他現在講前副主委前任的副主委前任的副主委但本席現在講的是說報導裡面這也是我們看到的時候就會認為是說何安慧你是站在專業審查的角度 |
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你的角色不應該錯亂對 是的如果說新聞是錯的請澄清請要求澄清尤其是中央社也是我們相關的半官方機關如果說連中央社的新聞稿中央社新聞出來都會有錯誤的資訊的話那真的是假消息假新聞滿天飛啊好 我會請中央社更正好 謝謝主委謝謝委員好 謝謝 謝謝洪孟凱委員 |