| IVOD_ID |
160608 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160608 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-36-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-24T10:05:09+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-24T10:16:20+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:11 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5e1f7c3e1748c6e526da813a930224d7aab39e7ea9331c7ec2be5dfb0591b1bf9acd615108665c815ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王鴻薇 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:05:09 - 10:16:20 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-24T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：一、併案審查
（一）委員羅智強等25人擬具「刑事訴訟法第一百十六條之二條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員謝衣鳯等16人擬具「刑事訴訟法第一百十六條之二條文修正草案」案。
二、審查委員陳培瑜等16人擬具「刑事訴訟法第一百零一條之一條文修正草案」案。
三、審查委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「刑事訴訟法第四百四十九條及第四百五十一條之一條文修正草案」案。
四、審查委員許智傑等22人擬具「刑事訴訟法第四百四十一條條文修正草案」案。
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謝謝主席我請司法院 今天是副秘書長還有法務部 今天是次長委員好 |
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副秘書長跟次長我們今天討論刑事訴訟法其中主要一個原因就是呢有一些潛逃不管是棄保潛逃或者在入獄前的潛逃好但是呢我們之前有一些這些重大的案件比如說中文誌啊或者是之前的諸國龍我們都在這裡有質詢而且都說會 |
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有一些精進改善的措施對不對這個事情不是今天才發生是吧有沒有精進改善有沒有請問一下來副秘書長司法院部分有沒有精進改善 |
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報告委員 這個部分 司法院確實做了很多檢討雖然說我的問題就是有關於這些潛逃的 或者是交保潛逃法院的部分 院方有做精進改善 對不對 |
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來 法務部有沒有做精進改善官員報告 上次體育院案發生之後呢法治面基本上修法比較緩慢啦在實務上我們已經發函好幾次函給我們所屬的檢察機關未來就這個強制處分的實施我們要特別的修法院所以我的意思就是說在我們立法院還有社會高度重視 |
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我想當然而司法院跟法務部應該不會再繼續的怠惰下去嘛怎麼樣 剩下來就怎麼樣經濟改善好 可是啊就在前兩天發生的是在新竹的孽童案知道嗎 知道這個案子嗎知道這個案子齁 |
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所以啊我說沒有最扯只有更扯在新竹發生的虐童案這個他棄保潛逃300萬交保棄保潛逃然後發生之後看到我們的檢方跟我們的地院大家互推皮球責任都不在我院方說我這個讓他交保 |
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我已經有媒體報導啦我有做成筆錄啦你們都應該知道因為有媒體報導也做成筆錄那檢方說沒有啊你法院開庭竟然沒有通知檢察官 |
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竟然沒有通知檢察官到庭也沒有讓檢察官來表達意見啊進行裁定 這個虐童的嫌犯葉展浩就以三百萬元交保還附加限制住居 還要跟派出所報到所以檢方說的振振有詞院方說的理直氣壯 |
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責任都不在 自己可是人咧?人咧?跑掉了所以我就不懂了 |
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我們在立法院開了那麼多次的專案報告有這麼多的委員在質詢有這麼多的委員在關心包含本席在內都說會精進改善結果這個案子扯不扯它無關中大經濟犯罪它無關政治性的它就是一個一般老百姓非常關心的一個虐童案人跑掉了 |
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然後竟然都說責任不在自己好 你們都是客是檢方和這個法院的長官好 請問一下 我先請先請我們院方來說好了 司法院這個責任在誰你們不要告訴我沒有去了解這個案情喔 |
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這個法官有沒有問題他沒有通知檢察官到庭然後只是以說已經有媒體報導了 |
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委員可不可以容我說明一下這個那個案件他是一個我們所稱的疑審案件就是說檢察官他終結了他的偵查程序之後他決定要起訴然後把這個羈押的被告送到法院那法院他自己職權決定說要不要羈押這個被告那這個程序所謂的疑審程序他跟偵查中申請羈押不一樣的是法律沒有規定他一定要通知這個官員 |
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法官沒有錯不是你的意思是法官沒有錯我要跟那個委員講的是說他有他的那個成因就是說法律他因為檢察官其實他自己也知道他這時候人人今天要開庭就是說決定這個人要不要羈押那所以我就問你嘛我現在就問你你說法官有沒有錯嘛在這個案件上法官有沒有錯嘛整個制度性的就是說這個部分制度錯人沒有錯我們就是說可能就是說每個法院所以你講不出法官有錯 |
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他們不夠那個嚴謹所以我們現在也整個把整套那個程序SOP好 所以法官沒有疏失沒有疏失 有沒有疏失嘛 |
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委員那個分成兩層一個就是說他核心的他怎麼做決定的這個判斷我給你很多時間說明我也要同樣給我們法務部說明來請問一下法務部次長這個事件檢察官有沒有問題在檢察官他是羈押中送法院的所以在這被告送到法院之後就由法院來決定這個被告是否繼續羈押 |
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就訴訟制度上就法官就檢察官來講他這樣當然就法院有所決定之後他來做救濟但這個案檢察官他沒有被通知要到場立庭那事後他也沒有收到這個不押沒有繼續接押的裁定所以法律上他是這個沒有錯不是有沒有錯法律上他不知道清楚地檢署說因為沒有收到裁定書他沒有辦法提起抗告 |
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他說而且都沒有通知他們到庭所以請問一下檢察官有沒有錯那原則上法這個裁定對外宣示他也可能對外生效但是你必須要送達檢察官來知道你裁定的理由才能夠提起槓桿所以以你對你作為檢察官的長官你認為檢察官沒有錯我們檢察官他要對個案就計他基本上要有裁定看到了沒有 |
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不只是新竹地檢署或者新竹這個地院兩邊推皮球如果我從司法院到這個法務部法務部沒有辦法說出檢察官有錯司法院也說法官沒有錯按照制度就是這樣走 |
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那到底錯的是誰?錯的是誰呢?倒霉的是被虐待的兒童嗎?倒霉的是家長?倒霉的是受害人嗎?這個案子到底出現什麼樣的問題?我剛剛講說我們每次對一些重大激進犯罪我們非常生氣我們認為在裡面一定有貓膩這個我不曉得有沒有貓膩啦這個案子我不曉得有沒有貓膩但它活生生的就出現在我們的眼前 |
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一個虐童案 三百萬交保 它就跑掉了所以來 再來剩一些時間 你們要怎麼樣怎麼 我在說你們一定有精進的方式啊 我們也想當然爾啊想當然爾你們會有精進 然後現在又告訴我制度出錯了 |
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來先請法務部你們要怎麼 像這個案子該怎麼辦跟委員報告 我剛也跟委員報告了就是說這幾個重大案件脫逃之後我們要求警察官在施行公訴的過程當中他對強制處分 對法官強制處分的行使我們要強力的進行他算不算重大案件 這個新竹的劣童案 |
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其實不管重不重大啦 假官在實行公訴的時候對法官強制處分權的行使其實我們進行公訴代表人的責任去督促法院適當的行使他的強制處分權我們發函要求訴處假官必須要這麼做好 來 司法院 這個案子 |
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你們要怎麼精進那個過往有關於一審程序我們是尊重檢察官他要不要到那現在我們就是有通令就是說請那個各法院就是這種程序一定還是要正式那個通知那個檢察官所以一定要通知檢察官到庭嘛不要有機會再大家互踢皮球是吧好現在我要求法部跟司法院針對這個新竹市的虐童案的細胞潛逃提出報告給我們 |
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司法法治委員會然後你們該不該做出懲處也提出來沒有道理啊沒有道理大家都說沒有錯然後就出現這樣的一個七寶潛逃讓我們社會大眾無法接受如果今天一個虐童案可以如此 |
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重大經濟犯罪你逃掉了連虐童案你都讓他逃掉了然後都告訴我們我們通通沒有錯老師說我認為這是檢驗雙方的怠惰不把這個案子當回事嘛今天如果是你的孩子被虐待呢你會這樣對待嗎我認為就是兩方都有怠惰不要推給制度制度是死的人是活的 |
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所以在這邊要求 這個主席我要求我們的司法院跟法務部 針對這個案子提出報告 還有提出懲處的報告這事情不能不了了之最後我們是懲罰制度嗎懲罰一個冷冰冰的這些文字嗎請 對我們 請 多久可以提出來那再麻煩法務部司法院多一招 多久可以提出來 |
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依照那個委員的要求提出相關的報告跟懲處那請問要多久兩週內可以嗎一個月一個月啊那麼久啊兩週可以嗎 |
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因為不可能是法務部直接下來調查我們要透過台高檢疫調查還有一個行政流程是不是一個月一個月好我要具體的不要最後又給我看到通通推給制度好不好好謝謝再麻煩一個月內能提出好謝謝 |