| IVOD_ID |
160496 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160496 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-23T09:56:19+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-23T10:06:40+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:21 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/27ac2f54fdf75cc07bbe4ecd4ea6cfa765a835c60a672e2887b5e96e7cd6ee7299ca43a5534ac6bc5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王美惠 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:56:19 - 10:06:40 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查委員羅廷瑋等16人擬具「社會秩序維護法第六十四條條文修正草案」案。
二、審查委員高金素梅等21人擬具「社會秩序維護法第六十四條條文修正草案」案。
三、審查委員王鴻薇等24人擬具「社會秩序維護法第六十四條條文修正草案」案。
四、審查委員林思銘等22人擬具「社會秩序維護法第六十四條條文修正草案」案。
五、審查委員魯明哲等17人擬具「社會秩序維護法第八十九條條文修正草案」案。
六、審查台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「社會秩序維護法第六十四條及第七十二條條文修正草案」案。
七、審查委員邱若華等19人擬具「社會秩序維護法第六十四條條文修正草案」案。
八、審查委員邱若華等19人擬具「社會秩序維護法第七十二條條文修正草案」案。
九、審查委員顏寬恒等16人擬具「社會秩序維護法第九條條文修正草案」案。
十、審查委員顏寬恒等16人擬具「社會秩序維護法第八十九條條文修正草案」案。
十一、審查委員魯明哲等18人擬具「社會秩序維護法第八十九條條文修正草案」案。
【詢答及處理】
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主席,我們請補聽部長有請喂,委員好補聽,在這裡我覺得今天要討論這個社會秩序法我認為是抱怨抱害啦每一項都要做,每一項都要去合作啦在這個過程當中本事先要來幫你探討一下這幾天來 |
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白衣的時候本身也跟自己討論過說你做得不錯,表現不錯,好衝突可以更多吃的結果在這幾天的時候,有一個 |
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有心態,他走路去人生道,在那裡走走走,去選擇他的理念,他的想法,結果沒理由說,沒幾個人而已,就走一半了說,他違反秩序法,結果在這個過程當中,我所了解的,包括數中也好,報中也好,我感覺應該是不曾因人而異啦, |
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因為全台灣的警察非常辛苦,但是在這個過程我看,我們都有違反嗎?請部長回答,還是書長來回答?好來,書長來 |
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四月十日早晨八點多就是有110通報在那個金融路有團體使用擴音器妨礙安寧但是有妨礙安寧結果我們的董事去處理的時候就發現在那裡做演講他有勸導 |
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他勸導啦 勸導沒聽啊 勸導沒聽啦 你們如果走開所以北省國民運代表就查證罪所以不是你聽我說 台北市的市長可以不用走沒有啦 現在就是這樣就是說他這個來走是用勸導 他沒有跟沒有啦 那個職業行政署是用警告喔 他的走就要有警告 命令解散 叫他制止啦 |
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因為勸導也不會形成法律上的效果,不會做處罰啦我當然知道不會處罰什麼,我只是要告訴你,因為不要讓我們的警察當年為難啦 |
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我們要一窮一條邊,同樣的道路,同樣的法律去走不會因為沒有同樣的地方,又沒有同樣的做法因為我們說實在,之前也看到我們台北市的市長,你們的做法跟他現在,尤其他站的地方,不是不能進去的地方 |
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如果像你們這樣說的話,是人家未來還要選舉,如果愛家愛戶要去拜訪的,都要去申請喔!因為拜訪的本身的好選人,跟他本身的志工這樣走,都不是五六的啦! |
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師父,我是要跟你說,因為這個社會的禍害,我也認同說,如果太大聲插到人,應該是要去勸導,這我認同,可是不要讓百姓認為說,跟做官可以這樣,跟我們百姓去站的地方,不是管制的,不是不能入的,那是人性道, |
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因為我認為我們要做我們警察後面的護盾 不能讓他為難在這裡面 我也知道你們負上的辛苦 黃牛配合也要找人 運動裁券也要找人 現在什麼醫療 |
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的票券還沒找,我要來請教我們的單位醫療票券是什麼來回答一下 |
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衛生福利部代表衛生福利部代表衛生福利部代表 |
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比較像是我委託你用我的名字對嘛 現在我就是要跟你們說醫療的票券的薪我為了這件我還自己騎摩托車去大堅北省看因為有很多醫生他如果說過不來但是他有現場說限制20個去看 |
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要不然我去看,我又跳在他們門口早上六七點不去的時候不是他們走,不然他們如果要看 |
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還有什麼戴掛號,那要再拿健保卡給他在當場的因為以前,是不是我們會去抽嗎?譬如二十個、二十個多在那裡嘛現在是該,你要抽的時候就要有健保卡 |
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是不是這樣?因為我認為每一個單位都一樣做得不好,我們就依照一個單位去改善好事 |
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因為本市在這裡也覺得說你這個醫療的票券的錢會讓人產生什麼什麼的有的醫美一個十張可以送兩張跟幾張可以也有可能是這樣所以在這個報酬報案的裡面部長我就是要跟你說我們非常辛苦像荒遊票 |
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要聽NCV啦,我們也要合作啦,前面這兩天,前面我們又收過了,在文化部也收過了那個運動票券,我們也在教育部收過了,是不好的,我們要在專法裡面,怎麼處理 |
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沒說實在,最近的演唱會,如果沒有這兩天大家的發表、大家的手法,有這麼多人可以買我們的問題是出在哪裡?有時候我真的買,但是臨時我都沒辦法去看沒辦法去看的當中,我會自己上網去買這要如何處理?這也是有的,沒錯 |
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所以我們是應該讓不好的、我們想不好的繼續處理才對可以讓百姓認為這個黃牛票是非常惡質,這我認同但是在這兩天的端端,我們的黨人有想過才對你看現在,包括張學友來,包括什麼人 |
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一定是很好,但是很好的當中,我們有需要再去文化部,要如何讓它轉化,繼續讓它加強下去,這才是最重要的 |
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是 感謝委員的指導啦法律本來因為都有檢討到整整的空間但是我也很認同說它有這個目的事業主管機關包括文化部或是教育部他們有定專化在後我們站在近景上面是幫他協助但是你現在如果所有的部門都轉播到關上社會秩序維護法有時候會變成好像往後退那因為有精進的空間啦 |
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540.161 |
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最近這兩年因為有專法的關係其實處置上反而好一點所以我是覺得說不要再回來我們這個社會秩序維護法所以我們才會很主張說是不是社違法它有三年才剛剛開始適用三年讓它有一定的穩定性那我們有一些需要精進的空間我們會提供給目的失業主管機關來做參考 |
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554.794 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
那委員剛有垂詢到有關於個別的就是警員在用集會遊行法對於這個舉牌的這個制止的部分那我想我們在這段期間裡面的處置就是說第一個他有沒有違反交通啦不要動了交通 |
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因為極有法它有比較嚴格一點點的限制盡量不要用這樣的方式造成比較多的困擾但是我們要非常謝謝警員他一定是有其他的一個顧慮會認為說用極有法來做制止的這個動作或做其他的勸導的方向這個我們永遠有檢討的空間也是一樣所有的這些聚眾活動都有一定的法源基礎 |
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那法源基礎呢請我們的警員在第一線要處理的時候呢他通常都有碰到不同的這個適用上面的困擾那但是我們都會用這個比較法律上面能夠橫平的觀點來看待那請委員能夠多多指教 |
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好,感謝補充會的回答啦,在這,我們是覺得說,我們有法,要好好去質詢啦,要去執行例啦,不然有法定在那,我們不去做,不去執行例,這樣就不好了啦,以上 |