| IVOD_ID |
160486 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160486 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-35-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期外交及國防委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期外交及國防委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-23T10:14:59+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-23T10:27:04+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:05 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/27ac2f54fdf75cc02a5d144056ada2aa9ac021369aff85ba87b5e96e7cd6ee72f0a2f51fd5bd8c715ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王定宇 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:14:59 - 10:27:04 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期外交及國防委員會第10次全體委員會議（變更議程）（事由：邀請國防部部長、外交部部長、國家安全局局長、總統府秘書長、國家安全會議秘書長報告「近期國軍、外交部、總統府、國安會遭共諜滲透，其影響國安層面、範圍及未來人員考核管制之具體作法」，並備質詢。） |
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好 謝謝主席 麻煩部長部長早 我在開始今天尋討之前 |
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比較難過要點出一件事情我們在立法院立委再怎麼大都要依照法律來行事立法院做任何決議再怎麼了不起都不能逾越憲法這跟部長無關所以你表情不要那麼嚴肅等一下會以為我在罵你 |
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事實上國安會該不該來立法院備詢不用看這一任也不用看蔡英文總統這一任看馬英九總統那一任他有憲法規定有運作慣例根據中華民國憲法徵修條文第二條第四項國家安全會議組織法的第二條第一項 |
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裡面就明明規定國安會因為你以前是國安會秘書長國安會是國家安全有關大政方針之諮詢機關不是政策執行的處置機關所以除非涉及有關的法律案比方說組織條例或者預算案比方說年度預算送到立法院審議外不致立法院報告被尋以符合憲政體制 |
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我們當然可以找到很多偉大的理由要負責啊 要國家安全啊但是如果我們一個國家的鋼長不照法律來進行任何了不起的理由都可以逾越法律跟憲法規定我們就會通過一大堆違憲的決議案我們就會通過一大堆違憲的無效的擴權案立法院過去一年的亂象不是來自於這裡嗎人民的憂慮不是來自於這裡嗎所以 |
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我今天在一開始我必須提出這一點就是我都認為所有會議就可以開該來備詢就來備詢但是要根據法律跟憲政那回到這個部長我有個概念性問題要請教當然我們台美之間有deficit有貿易赤字的問題那我上次有私下就教於您其實我們現在對美國的軍購 |
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大概有三種類別一個叫做FMS甚至有的是叫FMS only就是只能採取軍售的管道那個是透過美軍幫我們買我們就是buyer這個坦白講對台灣來講比較輕鬆但是有時候巡駕報價會產生過去也發生愛國者飛彈等等一些問題另外一個是DCS商售這也是軍購但他走DCS |
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另外一種叫做commercial transaction就是我們把它翻成軍民通它就是類似商售的方式那在一般的運作在軍民通的部分可以列入貿易額度可以把那個赤字扣掉在一般的狀況在商售的話有些狀況也可以把它扣掉所以我是建議啦我這個純屬建議這個軍售部分由您主責就是說在基於降低台美貿易赤字 |
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以及這個有利於技術移轉扶持本土的軍工產業的三個條件以及價格不變性能一樣的前提下 |
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我不知道部長認不認同其實我們對美的軍購如果能夠走商售或者走軍民通的話事實上會有這些好處但我剛才講那個前提一定要守住價格要低於它性能不能改變那它增加了售後服務增加了技術移轉那算雞蛋了我剛才講這一段是不是部長有什麼想法我們確實在軍售以外有 |
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商售的這個部分也是有一定程度的一個增加跟考量我剛才這個順序給部裡面做參考這個是建議就是說當我們尤其我知道軍種的或者是我們這個戰規師這邊有時候我們會比較省麻煩的就是走軍售省麻煩但是如果走DCS |
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或者走這個commercial transaction他可能會多一些麻煩但是這過程當中如果對國家有利我們買方也就是軍種所有需求都達標的話有時候多費一點心神做對國家有利的事情這是本席對國防部的建議好 接下來一個是有關無人機的部分我們國防部委託中科院製造的無人機干擾槍310支 |
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聽說因為頻率的問題還有查資能力的問題這310支其實不太有用我不曉得使用者不管是陸軍或者各營區對這個干擾槍現在是怎麼處理這干擾槍好不好用 |
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委員好,我是作記室次長,向委員報告,這個干擾槍主要的對象是針對小型的一二類的無人機,它是定頻的還是變頻的?它有針對無人機遙控的頻率,有設定相應的頻段,那會來做...然後我拿了干擾槍,我怎麼知道無人機來了,那個查資系統,或者講雷達拉,那個感知系統怎麼來? |
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因為小型的無人機在現況我們在用這種防空雷達目前是增貨能力比較沒有辦法那個有另外的雷達啦因為雷達就跟波長有關嘛你那個網子越密看得越近就近視眼那你要看得越遠長程預警雷達它就近的東西就看不太見這個我們理解我的意思是說我現在拿著一個干擾槍 |
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我是營區的守衛你們現在鋼老槍的作業方式他們是放在是放在營區的槍械庫裡面還是放在待命班的手上握在手上是然後用目獲的方式來攔截是 |
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所以這個對小型無人機,其實小型無人機在100米以上,目獲其實有相當困難這一個我知道你們有要建置這個感知系統,沒有感知系統單純靠這個攔截效能是有限的那我這邊要請教就是說目前部長我們國防部,其實每個兵都有專長都有執掌那現代戰場上無人機跟反無人機幾乎是非常重要的要素了 |
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就我去查起來我們現在在部隊裡面的編制並沒有這個不管是待命班什麼並沒有專長編制有關這個反無人機的部分 |
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包委員這個由我再來補充就現行的我們國軍建制的反制系統以中科院這一套UDS裡面所配置的無人機干擾槍但是未來同步我們再檢討包含外島的反制無人機系統它裡面就會有徵收然後干擾的相關的配備那其次在部隊使用的部分現在我們正在配合兵力結構調整 |
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這個其實比較適合回答的是軍總來回答我們每個兵機槍兵什麼兵防空兵什麼兵他會有一個編制跟執掌的我問的問題是我們現在部隊裡面有沒有無人機跟反無人機這個兵的專長編碼或者專長編制現在好像沒有無人機的您說他操作無人機的一個要有一個編制我們現在沒有這個編制他是用第五兵第五員監管這個東西 |
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現在如果講說他的那個符號上面動員的專長的編碼符號我們現在已經有列入無人機的但是我們在部隊的編制 |
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事實上沒有一個執掌專責的是負責這一塊啦他等於是第五員監管嘛這個應該要去問因為你如果講的是單純的一個無人機的干擾槍這樣子的話這個部分是每一個衛哨或代理班的人員都要來操作但現在假設 |
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但假設是屬於比較具有攻擊性的無人機或可以稱為一種火力的話海軍陸戰隊事實上已經成立了無人機我們現在在營區裡面的待命班現在並沒有專長編制負責這一塊他都是找一個 |
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得監管那怎麼做比較好我覺得可以思考一下因為這個威脅其實將來會越來越多啦那因為我還有兩個題目我借一分鐘另外一個事情我們現在三軍官校學生到國外就讀軍校的員額 |
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聽說因為預算因為編列一億一千多萬那三減了一千七百四十六萬再加上凍結數等等所以十二元出國都已經有十二個申請到國外就讀軍校了現在只剩下四個 |
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縮減了一半,這個事情是否為真?是,現在因為那個原訂護國外就讀的有12人,現在只能夠致應4人護外國就讀所以影響就保留到明年,影響大概有8個人這影響蠻大的,有沒有什麼補救的原因?補救的方法? |
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我們就把它延到應該是延到明年因為明年原來這八個還是他們嗎?明年有明年的那個人員要出去啊我們在今年編列預算的時候我們會連同這個一起編列上去所以這八個人的權益是把它挪到明年?是是因為這個會坦白講我們能夠出國受訓都是我們優秀的軍官那因為這樣子12個剩下4個 |
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當然會有一些失落感那我是覺得如果我們在預算籌措上沒有問題的話能夠按照年度執行會比較好移到明年他是跟下一期的一起那跟下一期跟學第一期未必不可但是每個人都有一年一年的生涯規劃這樣就慢了一年所以我還是建議部長在能夠籌措的範圍內今年如果能夠12元還是要滿足12元因為今年主要是因為那個是他通善的部分是不得 |
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不得留用 不得留用因為不得留用 很麻煩就是那個不得留用讓這12個優秀軍人要出國受訓變剩4個這個坦白講是 |
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647.744 |
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可惜因為軍人每一個年班每個年班有他的梯次慢了一年其實影響很大所以我還是懇求部長我們一起找個方法看這塊預算怎麼處理讓這八位可以一樣維持出國秀訓這是我們優秀的軍人我們還是要找個方法了你弄到明年一定有影響不會沒有影響 |
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648.913 |
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672.846 |
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因為他今年特別過去通商的項目沒有決議說不得了用我們今天國家總預算的處理方式大家都談了我就不變再多說了有些部分造成災難我最後只請教一件事情你們那個揭密人員的認證未來會不會因為你們現在建立在個人的賓資資料裡面所以未來要升遷到某個職務要去佔缺 |
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674.028 |
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690.218 |
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如果他在揭密認證的值等他的那個等級沒有符合他要去的位置是不是就不能升遷也不能調動會有沒有這個會不會影響到這一塊會因為他跟人資系統結合因為我們以前是對事情來做保密嘛 |
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690.638 |
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716.703 |
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現在是對人他有財務有什麼什麼建立的等級嘛所以這個等級認證的等級跟他要去的職務如果他要占高缺他的等級沒有符合他事實上就占不了缺那也要讓全軍知道你的機密等級會影響到你未來的升遷獲得職務的調派所以要做好節身自愛這點我是支持只是這個要把它講清楚所以未來的升遷占缺到特定的職務都會受這個機密認證的影響 |
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對 我們這個辦法有公布 然後我們也會讓全軍知道是 好 謝謝部長 謝謝主席好 謝謝 |